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Old 03-11-2012, 21:49
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I can imagine Jahmene or Ella (or maybe Chris) winning and flopping into obscurity within the year because they aren't current or commercial enough as artists, despite having great voices.

Whereas James Arthur/Union J will come as runners up and do really well as they are easily marketable and have clear fan bases. Similarly for this reason I think Lucy Spraggen will do well.

This fits in with previous years where commerciality trumps everything else. E.g

-Alexandra wins... JLS runners up and doing much better.
-Matt Cardle and Rebecca Ferguson have great voices... But Cher Lloyd and 1D runners up have international success as they are more commercial
-Joe McElderry has a better voice and wins... Olly Murs is much more commercial and does better
-Leon Jackson wins.. Rhydian does better

There are probably loads more examples! I can definitely see this happening again.
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Old 03-11-2012, 21:50
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I liked LEON!!

He's the only X Factor winner I actively cared about winning. Sad how things go eh.
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Old 03-11-2012, 21:52
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I liked LEON!!

He's the only X Factor winner I actively cared about winning. Sad how things go eh.

same here. voted for leon and bought his records...
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Old 03-11-2012, 21:53
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I saw Leon Jackson a few weeks ago at a Cheryl Cole concert (ironically). I told him When You Believe was a tune.
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Old 03-11-2012, 21:57
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I saw Leon Jackson a few weeks ago at a Cheryl Cole concert (ironically). I told him When You Believe was a tune.
haha omg that's funny.

What's happened to him anyway? What does he do?

edit: It just shows how spoiled we were. Back then people used to say Leon wasn't a v.good singer. He shits on everyone on this year. Can't think of anyone this year he would produce a performance as good as his for his winning song. And it obviously meant the world to him which is also a rarity these days with all the premadonna's and famewhores.
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Old 03-11-2012, 22:01
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To be fair Little Mix are having success and so is Amelia. I think it'll be different this year. I have trust in Ella, Jahmene, James and MK1 who are the only ones realistically that can have a lot of success........assuming Simon doesn't f*ck things up like he usually does.
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Old 03-11-2012, 22:02
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haha omg that's funny.

What's happened to him anyway? What does he do?

edit: It just shows how spoiled we were. Back then people used to say Leon wasn't a v.good singer. He shits on everyone on this year. Can't think of anyone this year he would produce a performance as good as his for his winning song. And it obviously meant the world to him which is also a rarity these days with all the premadonna's and famewhores.
Leon was a good singer and he really grew over the competition. He just isn't a popstar.

Ella will end up in the West End (that isn't a bad thing) and James Arthur will do well in album sales but I'm not sure about anyone else. I suspect with the way ratings are going, this year will be erased from history anyway, just like 2007 is.
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Old 03-11-2012, 22:04
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I really don't think any of the acts left will sell records. The winner will have one hit and that's it. No one else left brings anything new to the music scene.

Lucy may have some limited success.

I wonder how well the tour will sell? I imagine not very
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Old 03-11-2012, 22:07
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To be fair Little Mix are having success and so is Amelia. I think it'll be different this year. I have trust in Ella, Jahmene, James and MK1 who are the only ones realistically that can have a lot of success........assuming Simon doesn't f*ck things up like he usually does.
Yeah don't get me wrong guys.. I'm not saying the runners up do better EVERY year. Last year was an exception, but there have been a few clear years: Leon, Joe, Matt... where the winner was great and deserved to win on the show. But in the real world their fan base quickly died away and they just aren't commercial enough to sell records. Not saying I didn't like Matt, Joe or Leon (I particularly loved Matt on the show), but they just haven't had the marketing and Syco have let them down in pursuit of less talented acts like 1D who can be marketed to girls no matter how talentless they are in comparison.
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Old 03-11-2012, 22:18
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why dont you vote for union j then? ... nah i dont want to see them sing every week either.. i could care less if the winner is a star if i did, i would have voted hard for leona,jls,olly,one direction and union j but i didnt because we all know real stars in pop and from xfactor are bad singers (except leona)
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Old 03-11-2012, 22:20
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I can imagine Jahmene or Ella (or maybe Chris) winning and flopping into obscurity within the year because they aren't current or commercial enough as artists, despite having great voices.

Whereas James Arthur/Union J will come as runners up and do really well as they are easily marketable and have clear fan bases. Similarly for this reason I think Lucy Spraggen will do well.

This fits in with previous years where commerciality trumps everything else. E.g

-Alexandra wins... JLS runners up and doing much better.
-Matt Cardle and Rebecca Ferguson have great voices... But Cher Lloyd and 1D runners up have international success as they are more commercial
-Joe McElderry has a better voice and wins... Olly Murs is much more commercial and does better
-Leon Jackson wins.. Rhydian does better

There are probably loads more examples! I can definitely see this happening again.
In the UK maybe, I'm waiting for the moment they have a top ten hit in Europe.
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Old 03-11-2012, 22:21
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I can imagine Jahmene or Ella (or maybe Chris) winning and flopping into obscurity within the year because they aren't current or commercial enough as artists, despite having great voices.

Whereas James Arthur/Union J will come as runners up and do really well as they are easily marketable and have clear fan bases. Similarly for this reason I think Lucy Spraggen will do well.
Whilst I'd agree that Jahmene isn't very commercial for the UK, it could be a very different story overseas. If Cowell could get him booked to perform on the US chatshow circuit, he could be huge over there.

But I really don't get this idea of James being successful after the show. There's umpteen similar male solo acts around right now, and every last one of them is far more talented than he is. Many of them tick the other boxes he's missing too, like charisma, an engaging personality, confidence rather than arrogance, good looks, etc. And Lucy is never going to sell prolifically.
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Old 03-11-2012, 22:21
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Joe isnt flopping, he's doing better than many x factor winners, yes not as much as Olly but he's doing well for himself
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Old 03-11-2012, 22:27
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Joe isnt flopping, he's doing better than many x factor winners, yes not as much as Olly but he's doing well for himself
I think the OP meant, he flopped under his SyCo contract, as the X Factor winner. The focus was put on Olly and he ended up doing better in the popcharts. Joe had to revive his career away from X Factor.
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Old 03-11-2012, 22:30
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I saw Leon Jackson a few weeks ago at a Cheryl Cole concert (ironically). I told him When You Believe was a tune.
haha omg that's funny.

What's happened to him anyway? What does he do?
He presses the button to operate Cheryl's backing tapes, like that bloke backstage on Britain's Got Talent.
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Old 04-11-2012, 00:24
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To be fair Little Mix are having success and so is Amelia. I think it'll be different this year. I have trust in Ella, Jahmene, James and MK1 who are the only ones realistically that can have a lot of success........assuming Simon doesn't f*ck things up like he usually does.
Little Mix won last year. Them having minor success with their first album does not make them any different from every other winner. Everyone said the same about Alexandra when her album did well and I said give it two years and where is she now...? Where will Little Mix be...? Same place as every other winner (Leona being the only exception).
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Old 04-11-2012, 00:26
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Little Mix won last year. Them having minor success with their first album does not make them any different from every other winner. Everyone said the same about Alexandra when her album did well and I said give it two years and where is she now...? Where will Little Mix be...? Same place as every other winner (Leona being the only exception).
Recording her US album
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Old 04-11-2012, 00:26
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I liked LEON!!

He's the only X Factor winner I actively cared about winning. Sad how things go eh.
yay someone else who loves Leon as much as me, best winner IMO
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Old 04-11-2012, 00:27
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I'm shocked I'm saying this, I've never felt this way before - But our version (Australian X Factor) is ripping the UK version to threads this year.
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Old 04-11-2012, 00:28
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I'm hoping Jahmene doesn't win this year so he can come back with a jazzy/retro/gospel album in the style of Rebecca Ferguson. Ella I think could do well if they get her image right, which I don't think they have done so far. Maloney won't win.
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Old 04-11-2012, 00:34
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Recording her US album
Remind me how her second album did?
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Old 04-11-2012, 00:35
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show has become too dull and predictable, watching it now makes me want to slash my wrists. needs a shake-up urgently, before it's taken off life-support.
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Old 04-11-2012, 00:44
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Remind me how her second album did?
Has she disappeared? erm...no...Does she still have recording contracts? Most definitely....so your point is....?
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Old 04-11-2012, 00:51
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Has she disappeared? erm...no...Does she still have recording contracts? Most definitely....so your point is....?
Matt Cardle has a recording contract.

My point is that just like every other winner (except Leona) she has dissapeared (flopped) after her first album.
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Old 04-11-2012, 00:55
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Matt Cardle has a recording contract.

My point is that just like every other winner (except Leona) she has dissapeared (flopped) after her first album.
What did the lead single from Matt's 2nd album chart at? Because Alex had a top 3 hit with hers despite being snubbed pretty much completely on radio and TV. Loads of currently successful artists have had bad albums, and the fact that she's out there recording new material for the US etc is a quite clear indication that she isn't going anywhere.
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