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Old 04-11-2012, 21:11
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Hello to all Gas Safe registered engineers,

I need some help from you in relation to another thread I have started, but this in particular is in regards to regulation BS 7967-2 Carbon monoxide in dwellings and the combustion performance of gas-fired appliances Part 2: Guide for using electronic portable combustion gas analysers in the measurement of carbon monoxide and the determination of combustion performance.

Specifically, what are the regulations requiring landlords to have a gas safety check carried out, and does the above cover the mandatory use of combustion analysers from 2005 onwards?

I can't really make much sense of the regulations myself, but any help in interpreting these is appreciated.

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Old 04-11-2012, 21:17
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Hello to all Gas Safe registered engineers,

I need some help from you in relation to another thread I have started, but this in particular is in regards to regulation BS 7967-2 Carbon monoxide in dwellings and the combustion performance of gas-fired appliances Part 2: Guide for using electronic portable combustion gas analysers in the measurement of carbon monoxide and the determination of combustion performance.

Specifically, what are the regulations requiring landlords to have a gas safety check carried out, and does the above cover the mandatory use of combustion analysers from 2005 onwards?

I can't really make much sense of the regulations myself, but any help in interpreting these is appreciated.

Thanks
A landlords cert is required every 12 months, appliances dont all have to have a combustion analyser used on them.
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Old 04-11-2012, 21:18
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A landlords cert is required every 12 months, appliances dont all have to have a combustion analyser used on them.
Which appliances do require a combustion analyser to be used on them?
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Old 04-11-2012, 21:25
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The boiler and fire definitely need checking and I'm pretty sure that gas cookers do too
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Old 04-11-2012, 21:48
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The boiler and fire definitely need checking and I'm pretty sure that gas cookers do too
Did it become regulation that boilers need checking with a combustion analyser in 2005 as suggested by the above? Can you direct me to any specific legislation documents for England that state this?

Also, we have a gas safety certificate from 12 months ago (pior to us moving in a few months ago) which states:
[LIST][*]Has the appliance been serviced? No[*]Combustion performance reading CO CO2 ratio/Co2/CO: not applicable[*]Is this appliance safe to use? Y[/LIST]
If the combustion reading is required but marked n/a by the engineer 12 months ago then surely it can't be stated the boiler is safe to use?
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Old 04-11-2012, 21:50
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The boiler and fire definitely need checking and I'm pretty sure that gas cookers do too
They need checking, but thats not what the op is asking, hes asking whether they need a gas analyser used on them, which I've answered.
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Old 04-11-2012, 21:53
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Did it become regulation that boilers need checking with a combustion analyser in 2005 as suggested by the above?
No, it was only this april that having to pass a gas analyser test became compulsory.
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Old 04-11-2012, 22:27
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The guy that the LL has currently got in to fix our dangerous boiler keeps saying that analysers have had to be used for the last 3 years and its all this conflicting information I am finding it hard to keep track of.
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Old 04-11-2012, 22:33
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The guy that the LL has currently got in to fix our dangerous boiler keeps saying that analysers have had to be used for the last 3 years and its all this conflicting information I am finding it hard to keep track of.
I have zero qualifications in this area, however I can tell you for certain that the chimp knows his onions when it comes to this stuff - take his advice as gospel
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Old 05-11-2012, 19:36
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Thanks all.

One final question regarding the Gas Safety certificate...

If the previous certificate expired on say, 20th October and the LL made arrangements for the checks to be done on the 19th and they failed, is the LL breaking any laws in allowing us to continue to live in an "unsafe" property while repairs are carried out to get a new certificate? Or should they have started the checks on, say the 10th to give plenty of time for repairs (if needed) to be done before the certificate expired?
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Old 05-11-2012, 21:01
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Thanks all.

One final question regarding the Gas Safety certificate...

If the previous certificate expired on say, 20th October and the LL made arrangements for the checks to be done on the 19th and they failed, is the LL breaking any laws in allowing us to continue to live in an "unsafe" property while repairs are carried out to get a new certificate? Or should they have started the checks on, say the 10th to give plenty of time for repairs (if needed) to be done before the certificate expired?
If they fail then you simply dont have use of the appliance till it passes, just as you wouldnt if it had failed well before the due date.
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Old 05-11-2012, 22:18
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If they fail then you simply dont have use of the appliance till it passes, just as you wouldnt if it had failed well before the due date.
Damn! Cheers for all your help though.
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Old 05-11-2012, 23:17
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I've read your other threads, can I ask is your boiler kicking out CO at the moment?
I can see that you say you've signed a sheet to say that you understand the boiler is unsafe but are happy to continue using it???
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Old 06-11-2012, 08:07
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Take a look at response in the other thread to that question.
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