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MochaFrapuccino
14-12-2004
Originally Posted by DillholeMcGinty:
“another post from the person whos not bitter



tee hee”


Why don't you include the whole post?

You like bullying people with half truths?
Satchmo
14-12-2004
Originally Posted by MochaFrapuccino:
“No please do. I stand corrected there. The "talent" description should have been "whole package". He is talented, otherwise he wouldn't have been in the final two.”

Nope, my lips are sealed. I'll just get me coat
The Mist
14-12-2004
Originally Posted by MochaFrapuccino:
“Did you read the post above that? Of course you did but you only quote what is in your interest ”

It does not negate my point. There is always a reason for everything. Practice what you preach before lecturing others.
MochaFrapuccino
14-12-2004
Originally Posted by DillholeMcGinty:
“Yeh well it MUSTA be true then, because Louis has prooved himself to be the most professional and reliable of all the judges.

So you actually have no idea if the G4 contract is BETTER or not then.

bitter G4 fan grasping at straws

and didnt you tell everyone yesturday that you wouldnt be posting again because Simon cowel had stolem your money and fixed the competiton ?

still here i see ”

How can you even KNOW why I chose not to post anymore? I only told ONE person in a PM the why.
And if you have to know, yes I am still here to tell bullies like you what I THINK, whether you like it or not.
As far as me being bitter, well the boys HAVE a contract and it's not up to you to say that it's NOT better than Steve's. You don't know, do you? Louis does and he said it.
DillholeMcGinty
14-12-2004
Originally Posted by MochaFrapuccino:
“Why don't you include the whole post?

You like bullying people with half truths?”

ok heres your whole post

Originally Posted by MochaFrapuccino:
“ Get a life and go oil Steve. That's the only thing he and you are good at. Next time make sure you COMPREHEND a post before you reply.

Mocha over and out before I vomit reading more posts like the quoted one.”

it actually makes you look even worse...
MochaFrapuccino
14-12-2004
Originally Posted by Satchmo:
“Who was this directed at? A little ”


I've edited it to correct it, so you can check it out now
MochaFrapuccino
14-12-2004
Originally Posted by DillholeMcGinty:
“ok heres your whole post


it actually makes you look even worse...”


I meant the POST that I was replying TO. Include that AS WELL.
DillholeMcGinty
14-12-2004
Originally Posted by MochaFrapuccino:
“How can you even KNOW why I chose not to post anymore? I only told ONE person in a PM the why.
And if you have to know, yes I am still here to tell bullies like you what I THINK, whether you like it or not.”

err.. well heres a clue...

Quote:
“ Fell free to flame. This was my last post so I won't be here to see your replies, nor will I vote next year. Thank you very much Mr Cowell for robbing us of our money, having decided from the very beginning who the winner was going to be.”

For somone whos stopped posting, your awfully active n the forum

Quote:
“As far as me being bitter, well the boys HAVE a contract and it's not up to you to say that it's NOT better than Steve's. You don't know, do you?”

....and neither do you

Quote:
“Louis does and he said it.”

ahh well if only we were all had the integrity and imparciality of Louis Walsh
MochaFrapuccino
14-12-2004
Originally Posted by The Mist:
“It does not negate my point. There is always a reason for everything. Practice what you preach before lecturing others.”


Hold on, cause you're now really taking the p*ss. As G4 LOST and me being their SUPPORTER it would have been somewhat understandable if I was DISSAPOINTED (I am never bitter. I said A NUMBER OF TIMES that I wish Steve does well and that he was my second favourite in the whole competition. But of course you only quote the negative things, don't you?). The point that my INITIAL post in this thread was trying to make WAS, ok Steve won. Why do his fans have to be NASTY against G4? Do I need to make myself EVEN MORE clear for you to understand it?
anneonholiday
14-12-2004
Originally Posted by Satchmo:
“Nope, my lips are sealed. I'll just get me coat ”

he he he - ooh satchmo - "I love the way your filthy little mind works" - (guess the film the quote is from - anyone??)
The Mist
14-12-2004
Originally Posted by MochaFrapuccino:
“Hold on, cause you're now really taking the p*ss. As G4 LOST and me being their SUPPORTER it would have been somewhat understandable if I was DISSAPOINTED (I am never bitter. I said A NUMBER OF TIMES that I wish Steve does well and that he was my second favourite in the whole competition. But of course you only quote the negative things, don't you?). The point that my INITIAL post in this thread was trying to make WAS, ok Steve won. Why do his fans have to be NASTY against G4? Do I need to make myself EVEN MORE clear for you to understand it?”

The number of Anti-Steve comments on this forum by G4 fans outnumbers any Anti-G4 comments by an absolutely massive margin. Why should we all be forced to worship G4 at all times and allow you and your pals to run down Steve at every possible opportunity? The people supporting Steve are usually far too busy defending him against comments such as yours to dare to criticise the sacred G4.
MochaFrapuccino
14-12-2004
Originally Posted by DillholeMcGinty:
“err.. well heres a clue...

For somone whos stopped posting, your awfully active n the forum

....and neither do you

ahh well if only we were all had the integrity and imparciality of Louis Walsh ”


Well, does it say there that my reason for deciding not to post anymore was because of the next statement? I don't think so. If you HAVE to know, the reason was (and the person I told that to can back me up if she's reading this) was because I was DISSAPOINTED that the boys hadn't won despite being very good and because I couldn't take people being NASTY towards them even though their fave (Steve) won. I also went on to say, at a later post that I had changed my mind after a few people PMd me asking me not to go and that I should take everything said on here with a pinch of salt.

As far as the contract, no I don't know either but the boys manager has said it and I have no reason to doubt him just because I don't like what has happened, like you do.

Hope that has answered your questions.
steve007
14-12-2004
Originally Posted by MochaFrapuccino:
“Then what was your comment about? If indeed you are not remotely interested in them? I was generalising the negativity that exists against G4 DESPITE Steve winning! Just read Steve007's posts above, for example!”


Yep, likewise here is one of yours.

Originally Posted by MochaFrapuccino:
“And before some of you start shouting sour grapes... I wish Steve all the best and may he have a good career.

As far as the "X Factor" goes though, he doesn't have it. You all should remember also, that popularity does not always equal talent. What's so special about Steve anyway? He has a good voice yes... but other than that? Nothing! He only won it because there are too many "drooling" people out there who lust over him (hardly a reason to win a TALENT competition). Yet another case of the Michelle McManus flop.

Also, I believe that Simon "sold" Steve better to the public than Louis (who was G4's major flaw) did with his acts or Sharon with hers. At this point, I must also add, that despite Rowetta not being my favourite, I've grown to like her because she proved that she's a lovely person. I can now see some truth to her comments that "Steve is Simon's favourite" as I couldn't believe it when he (Simon) said on the night of the final that "Rowetta sums up this competition: She's mad". How dare he?! Even now! Shame on him! How MORE obvious could he make it that he favoured Steve from the word "GO"?! I wish Rowetta ALL THE BEST! She certainly deserves to have a great career, as first of all she is a LOVELY person and got to number 4 of this competition, based PURELY on her talent and great voice and not because she was a judge's favourite.

The "X Factor" was supposed to be about the "whole package". Steve is NOT the whole package. Yes, he's been trying to make it for years, but the fact that he hasn't should tell us all something, shouldn't it?

Anyway, as far as the final goes, it was OBVIOUS who the winner SHOULD'VE been, but in a way maybe it's a blessing that G4 didn't win as I don't know how good it'd be for them to be signed with a label that already has an operatic band in their books. I feel that they wouldn't get the attention they deserve from the bosses. Louis better do something good with them, as they boys really do deserve it.

Since I've posted a message saying that I have some mp3s from the G4's performances, I have been flooded with private messages asking for them. So, to all of you who want them here is the link G4 Mp3s It includes all the songs apart from Oh Holly night, Nessun Dorma and Creep. But I promise that I will look for these also and add them on in the next few days. Note to the boys or the boys friends and parents who might read this: Please get the boys to release an album with all the songs they've performed if possible please. Judging by the demand I've had for their mp3s, it'd do great!

I must wish Cassie (great voice from a young girl), Rowetta (big voice from a lovely, true, human being) and Tabby (great performer who deserves to do well) all the best and may we hear a lot of them in the years to come.

Finally, to my beloved G4, I don't know what to say... I'm devastated that they didn't win it. Somehow, I have this feeling that they would have should they have been in Simon's team. Creep or not (as he's proved to be - who'd imagine that I used to like him and value his opinion) they guy CAN sell a road map to a blind person. Jon, Matt, Mike and Ben (Oh Ben.... : p ) you and your families should be VERY proud. You were (and still are and I am sure that you will develop to be EVEN BIGGER in the future) true stars and you should also be very happy knowing that there was a GREAT portion of the public who voted for you loads because they appreciated your SINGING TALENT and not how sexy you look being oiled at the front page of a tabloid. I am sure that you have a great future ahead of you and not winning was probably for the best as you wouldn't want to be in Simon's label anyway! And how much dignity have you shown... You are trully remarkable!Can't wait to buy your albums and see your live concerts! Well done once again boys. Youve made us all proud, you made us appreciate good music and you brought a breath of fresh air and class to the music world. Now , this IS the X Factor and you ooze it! I wish you all the very best. You deserve it.

P.S. 1. If you don't like long posts DON'T read it to avoid complaining afterwards.
2. Fell free to flame. This was my last post so I won't be here to see your replies, nor will I vote next year. Thank you very much Mr Cowell for robbing us of our money, having decided from the very beginning who the winner was going to be.”

I draw particular attention to the last paragraph, which says:Thank you very much Mr Cowell for robbing us of our money, having decided from the very beginning who the winner was going to be.

Point proven I think.
baileybots
14-12-2004
Originally Posted by MochaFrapuccino:
“When did I ever say that Steve will fail?
I could say a million negative things about Steve and the way he won, plus gloat about G4's BETTER contract, but I didn't, did I?
You people seem to be very insecure about your fave's future, otherwise you wouldn't be so bitter against G4.”

there are other ways of havig a dig at steve, and you do that quite a bit
MochaFrapuccino
14-12-2004
Originally Posted by The Mist:
“The number of Anti-Steve comments on this forum by G4 fans outnumbers any Anti-G4 comments by an absolutely massive margin. Why should we all be forced to worship G4 at all times and allow you and your pals to run down Steve at every possible opportunity? The people supporting Steve are usually far too busy defending him against comments such as yours to dare to criticise the sacred G4.”

Who is talking about CRITISISM anymore? We're down to pure insults and wishes of failure (see steve007's posts above as a mere and small example). No one said that you have to LIKE G4. But wishing them failure?Why? It's totally uncalled for.

Show me ONE quote of mine wishing Steve to fail.
MochaFrapuccino
14-12-2004
Originally Posted by steve007:
“Yep, likewise here is one of yours.



I draw particular attention to the last paragraph, which says:Thank you very much Mr Cowell for robbing us of our money, having decided from the very beginning who the winner was going to be.

Point proven I think.”

What exactly did that prove? Cause I don't get it. Where am I wishing Steve to fail there?
MochaFrapuccino
14-12-2004
Originally Posted by baileybots:
“there are other ways of havig a dig at steve, and you do that quite a bit”


Well I don't HAVE to like him simply to make YOU happy do I? I never wished the guy bad though, did I?
DillholeMcGinty
14-12-2004
Originally Posted by MochaFrapuccino:
“I also went on to say, at a later post that I had changed my mind after a few people PMd me asking me not to go and that I should take everything said on here with a pinch of salt.”

i take everything you say with a pinch of salt.

in fact your hissy fits like the one you had here: http://forum.digitalspy.co.uk/board/...0&page=1&pp=25

kind of remind me of the hissy fits some of the more "unusual" auditionee's have when tey are told they cant sing and wont accept it.

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“As far as the contract, no I don't know either but the boys manager has said it and I have no reason to doubt him just because I don't like what has happened, like you do.”

I didnt like what happened ? Steve won, i liked it fine.

Its never crossed your mind that Louis Walsh might be just a weensy bit interested at bigging up the prospects of the loosing act ?
The Mist
14-12-2004
Originally Posted by MochaFrapuccino:
“Who is talking about CRITISISM anymore? We're down to pure insults and wishes of failure (see steve007's posts above as a mere and small example). No one said that you have to LIKE G4. But wishing them failure?Why? It's totally uncalled for.

Show me ONE quote of mine wishing Steve to fail.”

I've lost count of the number of times i have read comments hoping that Steve will fail. Where was your outrage then? The moment ONE person jokingly says that G4 might fail you then accuse all Steve fans of doing exactly what countless G4 fans have been doing for days with much more malice in their posts. You may not have specifically stated that you hope Steve fails but from the quotes that have already been posted it is glaringly obvious that you do.
Satchmo
14-12-2004
Originally Posted by anneonholiday:
“he he he - ooh satchmo - "I love the way your filthy little mind works" - (guess the film the quote is from - anyone??)”

Now you've got me totally baffled
DivaLoca
14-12-2004
Originally Posted by anneonholiday:
“he he he - ooh satchmo - "I love the way your filthy little mind works" - (guess the film the quote is from - anyone??)”


Pirates of the Caribbean....borrowed from The Fast Show
MochaFrapuccino
14-12-2004
Originally Posted by DillholeMcGinty:
“i take everything you say with a pinch of salt.

in fact your hissy fits like the one you had here: http://forum.digitalspy.co.uk/board/...0&page=1&pp=25

kind of remind me of the hissy fits some of the more "unusual" auditionee's have when tey are told they cant sing and wont accept it.


I didnt like what happened ? Steve won, i liked it fine.

Its never crossed your mind that Louis Walsh might be just a weensy bit interested at bigging up the prospects of the loosing act ?”



Why do you bother replying then?

"hissy fits"? So this forum is against expressing opinions and freedom of speech is an unknown concept when it comes to dissing Steve even remotely eh?

No, it never crossed my mind. The guy has 28 number ones under his belt with various acts. Why would he blatantly lie when things like that can actually be checked against?
anneonholiday
14-12-2004
Originally Posted by Satchmo:
“Now you've got me totally baffled ”

sorry - my worst habit is assuming everyone knows what I'm talking about

I was sniggering at you pointing out the 'whole package' quote - then I remembered my fave line from Aladdin when evil Jafar says to the parrot 'I love the way your filthy little mind works'...

Anyways - quick lets get out of this thread - I scared
MochaFrapuccino
14-12-2004
Originally Posted by The Mist:
“I've lost count of the number of times i have read comments hoping that Steve will fail. Where was your outrage then? The moment ONE person jokingly says that G4 might fail you then accuse all Steve fans of doing exactly what countless G4 fans have been doing for days with much more malice in their posts. You may not have specifically stated that you hope Steve fails but from the quotes that have already been posted it is glaringly obvious that you do.”

If I was wishing Steve to fail, I would have said so.

And I find it AT LEAST unfair that I take the heat for what OTHER people have said, purely because we support the same act.
baileybots
14-12-2004
Originally Posted by criticonabike:
“yes that's right. g4 are four blokes who sing a bit of opera and who have CLEVERLY adapted it to singing pop songs!!!

that's genius!! why didn't anyone else think of this first???

i can't wait for the copycat groups to begin.”

the real thing...do you mean like coke a cola, ...i wonder where G4 got the idea to make a group of four guys singing opera,....OH i remember jon auditioned for Il Divo didnt he
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