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Waiting for Chryed to Get It On - Christian & Syed (Part 268)
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Flumps96
07-11-2012
Originally Posted by lovesy:
“Was that to stop each other from launching yourselves at Marc, or to stop yourselves from collapsing on the floor in a puddle?”

Don't know really, just couldn't believe i was there and then the lights go down, you see someone moving in the dim light and i just grabbed her

She didn't seem to mind though
Lyra500
07-11-2012
Originally Posted by heartsick:
“Loved the story - and the fantasy.

I also ran away from home when I was a child. But, since I wasn't allowed to cross the street on my own, I went next door. They let me stay for a biscuit after phoning my parents. Not fair, really.:sleep:”

I love this and AL's story.

Sorry to demented yoyo that you weren't allowed a biscuit. That's mean.
Kid Rachyy ♥
07-11-2012
Had a dream about Chryed and Danny

get out of my dreams Danny :sleep:
starfish100
07-11-2012
Good Evening

Just popping to say THANK GOODNESS for Obama being re-elected and yay, and I'm very happy and relieved etc.

Big Congrats to Buttercup too on your Graduation! x

Originally Posted by elphaba7589:
“Yeah it was totally unfair. Masood mentions that something is wrong with Syed, what was she meant to do, just say 'oh is it.....meh?! She's his mum for goodness sake! Masood's jealousy really is pathetic.”

I've been reflecting on last night a bit more - seem to have written a bit of an essay here.....

I didn't pick up on this enough last night but yes, I felt it was very mean and totally highlighted again the intense jealousy he feels for Syed. I thought Masood's weirdness and odd side were well shown last night and he was very manipulative and dislikeable. He takes the opportunity to 'bash' someone when they've admitted they are in the wrong - at the moment when someone is asking for forgiveness, he twists the knife again. It's different to what Zainab does which is outright verbal bullying and demanding people do as she wishes. I think it's Masood's way of taking back a bit of control as most of the time he feels emasculated by her. But then when he gets the chance, he will do something like this.

Also it highlighted to me that despite his lovely heartfelt sorry to Syed on Monday night, (which I felt he meant, and I do think he had quite a bit of justification in shouting at Syed, just that he realised he'd gone a bit far in trying to completely aniliate him) as soon as he sees the love for Syed from Zainab - the jealousy flares. The issue of this deep jealousy is between THEM as much as it is between Syed and his Dad. Masood resents Zainab's love for him, feels the competition with it - there is never, IMO going to be a way for Syed to get out of the crossfire of this. Also, no matter how much he is good/successful/does the right thing in his father's eyes......all this stuff in Masood is only ever a moment away from being activated, I feel. Ok, I know Syed has failed in the worst possible way at present and probably now after doing this twice in his life with the money business there is no way back, but I do wonder if even without all this, Masood would ever have been that different. Masood also uses Tam, as his 'best boy' (as he said on Monday night) to put down Syed, and Zainab uses Syed in the exact opposite way. It's like they both chose a son each. I also think it's only ever a matter of time before Zainab wants something and will try to draw Syed into it - get him on her side, and the never ending war will just go on and on.

I do think it's lovely how both brothers have come to some kind of an understanding between them though, of what is constantly happening and that is heartening to see, I have seen this happen between siblings in real life. Absolutely loved the breakfast visit yesterday.

Syed is in the middle of a poisonous triangle with his parents, and he should, with or without Christian, definitely get away. Probably Tam too, I think.

I think it's a great shame they've gone so overboard in trying to decimate Syed's character. But last night went a long way to showing me that unless he gets away from his parents, he has no hope of ever recovering and growing. They are simply not capable of changing their behaviour, it would seem. So, usually the only option left is to go, get away, it's a rare person who is as damaged as Syed is now, who can unlearn the destrucive patterns without some kind of long term break. As to whether I believe his character would have done all this after last year, that is such a huge debate and you can make a case for and against credibility I guess. I don't think a lot of it rings true enough.

It's also unfair to the partner who is having to carry you when you are this messed up. However, I still don't really quite believe the story I'm being told, for me there has not been sufficient motivation shown from Syed earlier in the year, that he felt that trapped by fatherhood. Or that he felt his sexual freedom was that unexplored (and it's a complete contradiction to gay bar episodes of last year).

I can't really believe all I'm seeing on screen, don't think Syed would this self destructive and I do think he'd be fighting for Christian more, much earlier and I don't believe he'd struggle quite so much over the I love you business. Does not square with me and I think they've stretched the realms of credibility too far. I do see why they have tried to do some of what they've done, but it's all a touch OTT. But then I guess we saw exactly the same done to Christian last year too.

I feel it's become a hallmark of EE in the last 2 years though, that they don't seem to know when to stop twisting the plot, and when to stop pushing a character too far. Can't fault the acting, that is for sure!

Anyway, seem to be coming on here and just moaning the last two nights so I'm going to go again. I know it can change wildly from episode to episode so I carry on waiting. I did love Monday and I do still believe Syed meant his vows and his choice in the CP. Can't feel any different, so that is why I'm struggling with some of what I'm watching now, because it doesn't feel real enough. Not saying everything is completely unrealistic, just the timelines being too messed with, the little touches that are just too OTT.

Repeating myself so I'm going. Sorry for the huge ramble. Love is Prevailing! xx
Romeo and Romeo
07-11-2012
Good Evening all!

Originally Posted by BcUhTrTyEeRdCUP:
“Evening all
How are we all?




I am finally free I have made it, I have graduated and to day was my last day of school!!!! and I finally finished my folio tonight!!!!

”

CONGRATS BcUhTrTyEeRdCUP!!
Romeo and Romeo
07-11-2012
Originally Posted by momentarything:
“They just had 'CHRISTIAN/SYED EXIT OBJECTIVE: MAKE SYED LOOK AS TERRIBLE AS POSSIBLE' scrawled across a whiteboard in the middle of the writers' room, it seems.

Yeah, it can only be a good thing, really. I can see how with six months away Amira would gain some perspective but it's just incredibly irritating we didn't see her give an inch in the six months she was actually, y'know, there. ”

BIB: Yep. I think this was very much their aim of the s/l in order to get them to a 'will they, won' they leave together' ending :sleep:
PoppyMay
07-11-2012
I feel like it's all slipping away...

KatrinaK
07-11-2012
Starfish, great post.

Originally Posted by PoppyMay:
“I feel like it's all slipping away...

”



It will be over soon but at at least we have a lovely story to take away with us, minus the last three months of course. :sleep:

and some lovely thread (and real life) memories.
PoppyMay
07-11-2012
Originally Posted by KatrinaK:
“Starfish, great post.





It will be over soon but at at least we have a lovely story to take away with us, minus the last three months of course. :sleep:

and some lovely thread (and real life) memories. ”

But but but this s/l is ruining Chryed
KatrinaK
07-11-2012
Originally Posted by PoppyMay:
“But but but this s/l is ruining Chryed ”

I know. There are not enough words to describe how upset/annoyed I am at what's been done to Chryed and so close to thier exit too.

EE have managed to keep Chryed faithful for three years but last minute have this happen.

With the wedding, we believed it was just a kiss and then this happens.

It was such a cruel trick.
PoppyMay
07-11-2012
It was UNNECESSARY and POINTLESS and BORDERLINE BORING.
KatrinaK
07-11-2012
All the above. :sleep:

Thank god Marc and Johnny are out of it now, and soon we will be too.
PoppyMay
07-11-2012
I'm not ready to let go, esp like this. It's so sad.
KatrinaK
07-11-2012
Originally Posted by PoppyMay:
“I'm no ready to let go, esp like this. It's so sad.”

It is but EastEnders have made it alot easier for me to let go come Thursday.
demented yoyo
07-11-2012
Originally Posted by KatrinaK:
“All the above. :sleep:

Thank god Marc and Johnny are out of it now, and soon we will be too.”

bib - IMO, if they weren't leaving we wouldn't have had all this stealing/cheating stuff. Chryed would still be blissfully happy, not married - and most probably still off screen :sleep:
PoppyMay
07-11-2012
Originally Posted by KatrinaK:
“It is but EastEnders have made it alot easier for me to let go come Thursday.”

I don't know......part of me is like 'thank goodness we won't have to go through this and be disappointed any more' but I'm going to miss them soooo, and I wish they'd met some of their potential.
Teapot2
07-11-2012
Evening!

Some great posts from Lovesy and Starfish today.

I completely agree that they've taken Syed too far and for the casual viewer i think it'd be mighty hard to sympathise with him. It's ironic that all this crap is meant to lead to Syed getting the happy ending he deserves when in fact it's doing the opposite for many people. It's not exactly what i would call a fitting end for Syed's character or his story.

I don't even feel particularly angry anymore, I'm just so disappointed it's come to this.
elphaba7589
07-11-2012
Evening

I get out of work early....on the one non-Chryed day
Chryedguy
07-11-2012
Just a quick election update from the Colonies.

As I mentioned, Maryland and Maine have now enacted same sex marriage laws. Washington state has done so as well. And Minnesota has declined to amend its state constitution to prohibit same sex marriage. It is only the second state where we have won a vote over such a proposed amendment.

For the first time ever we've won all of the gay-related ballot questions that were up for a vote this year!
Romeo and Romeo
07-11-2012
Originally Posted by PoppyMay:
“I don't know......part of me is like 'thank goodness we won't have to go through this and be disappointed any more' but I'm going to miss them soooo, and I wish they'd met some of their potential.”

Yep - EE not giving them screentime and decent material to meet their potential makes me bitterly sad

Originally Posted by PoppyMay:
“It was UNNECESSARY and POINTLESS and BORDERLINE BORING.”

uh HUH:sleep:

Originally Posted by PoppyMay:
“I'm not ready to let go, esp like this. It's so sad.”

Yeahhh,,,, So, so sad...
NowhereToHide
07-11-2012
Originally Posted by Chryedguy:
“Just a quick election update from the Colonies.

As I mentioned, Maryland and Maine have now enacted same sex marriage laws. Washington state has done so as well. And Minnesota has declined to amend its state constitution to prohibit same sex marriage. It is only the second state where we have won a vote over such a proposed amendment.

For the first time ever we've won all of the gay-related ballot questions that were up for a vote this year! ”

This is great news

I have to say though, I find the whole 'what you can do where' stuff in the States confusing. My friend is getting married to her girlfriend soon and she was talking to me about eloping - maybe the States - and she was pondering where she could get married. I was of no use at all

Oh..and I wanted to add, great post starfish. Very interesting view on Syed and his parents and I agree that EE have gone mental with Syed's character - father issues? trapped? sexual freedom? moron with money again? We needed A LOT of screen time to build all that up. I also love Tam, which is why I think I won't watch EE anymore - I can't bare to see his character torn apart as well
AlexinBrum
07-11-2012
Originally Posted by Chryedguy:
“Just a quick election update from the Colonies.

As I mentioned, Maryland and Maine have now enacted same sex marriage laws. Washington state has done so as well. And Minnesota has declined to amend its state constitution to prohibit same sex marriage. It is only the second state where we have won a vote over such a proposed amendment.

For the first time ever we've won all of the gay-related ballot questions that were up for a vote this year! ”

This is SO fantastic!
I've been spamming my FB with it all day.
AL59
07-11-2012
Originally Posted by Chryedguy:
“Just a quick election update from the Colonies.

As I mentioned, Maryland and Maine have now enacted same sex marriage laws. Washington state has done so as well. And Minnesota has declined to amend its state constitution to prohibit same sex marriage. It is only the second state where we have won a vote over such a proposed amendment.

For the first time ever we've won all of the gay-related ballot questions that were up for a vote this year! ”

This makes me so happy!

Also Alex I just found a picture of you and Marc on my camera if you want it?
AlexinBrum
07-11-2012
Originally Posted by AL59:
“This makes me so happy!

Also Alex I just found a picture of you and Marc on my camera if you want it? ”

IF I WANT IT????!!!!

Translation: Yes please that would be lovely.

I'll PM you my email address. Thanks.
AL59
07-11-2012
Originally Posted by AlexinBrum:
“IF I WANT IT????!!!!

Translation: Yes please that would be lovely.

I'll PM you my email address. Thanks. ”

okay, maybe "if" wasn't the right word
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