Teapot, this. I would have loved Christian and Syed stay longer but there was no guarantee that their talents would be utilised, or worse, given another horrific storyline. Thank god they left when they did. Kat for example has only been in the show for two years (on return) and has already been unfaithful three times. I'd hate if we saw Syed become a serial adulterer with no remorse. The ONS was bad enough - and believe me, I still hate that this happened - but it all happened in the space of three weeks and not, IMO, enough to cause any long term damage to them as a couple, and my memory as a fan. If say Marc and Johnny stayed longer and endless fidelity happened, it would have completly ruined them for me. At least we can say that 70% of their story over the last 3 and a half years was very good, some parts blinding excellent and it was only really the last month of the last two years, that caused the most damage. Thankfully not enough for me to turn away from the thread and this place - which unfortunately happened for the Kat and Aaron appreciation threads, which were once as fast as we were.

Like I said before though, 5, 10 years down the line fans, of Chryed and EE alike will remember Chryed mostly for the amazing coming out story, which we saw of Syed. A ground breaking story with themes of relgion, culture and social and oppressive attitudes, to which love triumphed over hatred and intolerance, not some last minute hatchet plot twist.

Bye to heartsick....hope we are able meet again one day, take care x

Heartsick, sorry to see you go but I understand. Good luck with everything and thank you for you insightful contributions to the thread.

Los, I won't be watching EE tomorrow and I have no intention for at least the forseeable future. EE is the pits right now. :sleep: I will keep my account open though because I've been a EE fan longer than I have been a Chryed one, and I do think at somepoint EE will make it's quality comeback so when that happens, I'll be making mine.

Until then ....

:sleep:

I'm feeling mainly relief that they've gone, relief that they are free and away from tptb that didnt' give a damn about them and they can live on safe and in character and happy in our fic and imaginations.

Also excited looking forward to following the next chapters in Johnny and Marc's careers which has started already with Tape and next up panto!

And happy because through this fandom I have made amazing friendships which I know will live on and on despite our beautiful boys having left Walford.

And finally a bit scared because I have no excuse for procrastination any more! Last 3 years of my life have been entirely submerged in fandom! Now I need to focus on my real life and working to achieve the things that matter to me...terrifyingly exciting!!

I can't watch EE any more because I have no respect for a show that could treat it's best characters/actors so appallingly.

Which is sad because I started watching when I was 7.

I'll catch up on the Masood's scenes because I love them but that's it. I don't really care about any of the other characters any way.

Oh I will watch Derek's death ep. You know, just to make sure he's dead :sleep:

BiB: Hah, I'm actually tempted to do that as well :sleep: But on the other hand, that would sort of feel like TPTB won and I don't want that Then again, I'm all the way over here, so it's not like they're actually getting a viewer out of me, so I guess it's all good.

You're all welcome for the caps


Yes, it was rather scary :sleep: But it was only out with my mum and sister to see the Christmas market and then to see Fiddler On The Roof

I may as well say now....I find the Vic ILY/handhold rather 'meh' I know I shouldn't and it's a really important scene but I don't feel much for it and I hardly ever rewatch it *ducks incoming missiles*
I do really like the mutual ILY though

I'll always be bitter at tptb for the missed opportunites and wasted potential, and for that awful twist. But a bigger part of me is just happy and relieved that Chryed got their happy ending


Brill post and I feel the same!


I'm glad you are no longer heartsick Take care!

Have the mods forgotten about us?

Why, no new part??

Chryed may have left but Chryedians are still around

I feel pretty much the same. I only watch things when they are good. I was an X-Files fan girl for all of my childhood/teen years, but I still stopped watching when Mulder and Scully left because it just wasn't good. In fact, the season where Mulder was gone, I only watched half of it because it was just dreadful. That being said, I tuned in for the myth-arc eps and the final ep (of course), and I don't think that makes me any less of an X-Files fanatic. I still know the show and the characters inside and out and have Seasons 1-7 on DVD. I just don't feel that it's a constructive use of time to watch anything fictional that you don't enjoy, regardless of how long you've watched for. Television is an escapist experience for me, and I want to escape into a world that invokes emotion/enjoyment. EE - in fact all soaps - don't do that for me any more. I don't think this will be a continuing thing though: in time (hopefully) the show will get better and when it does, I'll probably dip back in and start watching.

As for keeping up with the Masoods, I can read the spoilers here (they practically detail the whole shows anyway) and judge by reactions on the main forum whether or not the show's quality has improved. One thing I'm dreading is logging in during the spring to hear how Janine and/or Michael have been ruined. Seriously, why have the writers not been showing Michael raising Scarlet on his own? If Janine came back and asked for the baby, I wouldn't give a sh*t if he handed her straight over or not. They just messed everything up for favour of the Brannings and Kat's shagger. Now would be the time showing Michael emotionally bonding with the baby after learning how to cope and care for her. You know, to really give a good storyline. I hate EE: they have such great characters and all they need is for someone to go into the writers' room and knock their heads together and shout "STAHP! WUT R U DOING? GO HOME, YOU'RE DRUNK!"

Take care Heartsick and I wish all the best for the future

Wow. This sounds epic.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s2...n-vic-row.html







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ETA ""We all got goosebumps as she yelled the line, 'You've got the wrong brother' and the comparisons were, of course, made to her showdown with Zoe. It really is classic 'Enders."

Seriously, seriously, they're trying to compare the two moments. What a pile of crap!

"It's the question that has been on everyone's lips for months - who is Kat's secret lover?" a show insider told the paper."

errr......No :sleep:. The question on my lips has been 'Who's written this sh*t?'

Oh well, I'm done with EE anyway.
Btw Elphie, I agree with your point about not being able to watch the show anymore because they treated two incredible characters and actors so appallingly.

Awww, sounds like a really lovely night, hope you had a great time!

Oh, dear... No I'm not going to judge you (only a tiny little bit... Done! Back to loving you dearly )
I wonder if watching the story "in retrospect" so to speak alters your perception/appreciation etc. for different scenes compared to watching it in real time? I watched it all in such a short space of time (I was rather possessed in my watching if I'm to be honest, went from First Kiss to "sexy when devious" in the space of a few days when I first found the story in March -11. Or rather, from Proper Normal scene, back to first kiss and then back to Syed's arrival and up to "Sexy...") so I sometimes have a hard time separating what I felt for different scenes the first time I watched it since they all came so close together in time.
And again, I am in no position to judge, you know my secret about feeling a bit "meeh" about a genrerally totally adored scene. (if you remember...).

Yup, I'll always be bitter about all of those things. I'd be interested to know what they think they actually got out of The Twist that they couldn't have gotten out of it, and in a much better way, without doing that to the characters, actors, the backstory and the writer. But basically, I'm still in the relieved and happy- camp.

I bet it's Derek. Which makes me feel ill because he is so like Harry. And so Kat falling for someone like her abuser is an incredibly sensitive issue. Not one that should be cheapened to a 'guess who she's shagging' nonsense.

OMG! HOW THE **** DOES ONE COMPARE THIS TRIPE TO YOU AINT MY MUVVA!

EE are really spinning this as some great story but to compare this reveal to the Kat/Zoe reveal takes it to a whole new level.

FFS!

You aint my muvva is what not only made Kat but was easily the best, most moving, and grittiest story of last decade. It established Jessie as an actress, not just on the soap but across TV, on a whole.

That story is still talked about to this day for it's pure brilliance and taking Kat to the one dimmentional tramp she first came in as, to this mulit-layered, complex and tragic person she was and became at the end of it.

Grrrr!

This has really peed me off.

Classic EastEnders do me a favour. Classic EastEnders was the week which saw the Slaters dominate the week over Kat's revealtion that she was Zoe's mother. Classic EastEnders are the episodes that saw Little Mo strike Trevor with an iron after years of beatings, Classic EastEnders is episodes that saw Steve Owen and Mathew Roses's murder trial, classic EastEnders is when we saw Syed confess to his mother he was gay and in love with a man, classic EastEnders is what saw Stacey suffer from bi-polar, classic EastEnders is when the nation witnessed Sharongate, the identity of Phil's shooter - all that!

Kat revealing the identity of Mr Shagger is not classic EastEnders.

Ahhhh!

:sleep:

I think the person that posted this comment:

is spot on. :sleep:

Actually, come to think of it, the comments about this story have been golden. That's the only thing I've enjoyed about it.

OK, I have NO clue and grip about classic EE, but I've watched "You ain't my muwwa"-moment and I've seen the twohander between Kat and Alfie after she's come back and he's been with her sister, the one that ends with her saying something along the lines of not being able to do that to her sister and then climbing into her sisters bed to hold and comfort her and being there for her. (Sorry for appalling rev. here, not meaning to insult the real EE-fans!) and having watched those clips alone, I feel insulted by this, I really do.

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