OMG a new thread!! I am so far behind now, will have to find alot of time to catch up!!!

Elphaba thanks so much for sending the link for the glossary. You are a star!!

And thanks to those who sent get well wishes. The cold is slowly disappearing, thank goodness. A few more naps and lots more hot tea should do the trick. Maybe I should also have a shot of Drambuie,what do you think?

Going to go back and watch Mon and Tues episodes again. Good ep tonight but with so few left, I can't bear an ep without Christian!

See you later, Mary

Hmmm not write up in Heat for the reunion ep. It hasn't been embargoed so it can't look good. Heat loved them......

I'm off again so goodnight all.

Love is Prevailing......xxx....:yawn::sleep:

Night xx

Ok, I have to say this...Syed doesn't usually wear v-neck tees. Anyone else think he may have been wearing Christian's clothes?

Yes but there was at least a 6 month transition period when Amira was came to Walford. Yasmin was with her mother, but she was also getting to know Syed and the Masoods, and the eventually Christian. It's not like Amira moved in with Christian and Syed (well for all but 2 days ). It's was a slow change - and I think that's exaclty what Syed meant by his comment tonight about taking it slowely with her new step father.

Plus before when Yasmin was 1, she only had Amira and her grandada, Qadim. Therefore there was less people in her life.

She is now calling Christian and Syed her daddies. At the age of 1 you don't remember much, but she's clearly developed a bond with them and with her extended family unit too. It will certainely be harder for her to adapt to now, than she did a year ago.

Visits are all good but distance does reduce contact. No matter if it's just a two hour train ride, I've seen it happen plenty of times in real life. For financial reasons, time constraints, when father are away from their children due to location, it's difficult to maintain regular contact.

Christian does have a tee that looks similar Johnny's been seen wearing it out too: http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/9...ypartridge.jpg

This!!!

I don't think that prison comment was that random, it was actually a rare insight into Syed's head state. He's felt, in some way, trapped. Sudden parenthood and soul-mate marriage for someone so young and relatively inexperienced (he's been 'out' for only 2 years too) is a big deal. You can be happy and in love but still struggling with life changes and then suddenly feel like it's all caught up with you before you've had the time to adapt. As he said on his wedding day, it became all about Yasmin and the wedding and he felt suffocated, esp cos it was all compounded by financial worries and guilt (a decisive factor in everything that's happened in the past two months IMO).

Of course, now he's lost Christian he realises what he knew but couldn't get his head together to realise; he had it all, he wants the family-marriage set up. It is limiting, a lot of responsibility, a duty and anchor - and he wants it.

Yasmin did know Chryed when she went to stay with them Syed got to know Yasmin gradually when Amira first turned up with her, remember all the secret meetings? And then Amira moved herself in with Syed when Christian left. Yasmin had bonded with Syed by the time Christian came back and they got back together, then Christian and Yasmin got to know and love each other gradually too, with Syed always there at first as someone Yasmin felt comfortable and secure with. It was done slowly and gradually to give Yasmin time to adapt, which isn't the case now with Amira uprooting her overnight. I agree there probably won't be any long term damage (assuming Amira can stop being selfish long enough to be a decent parent and the new husband is actually a nice guy) but it'll still be hugely upsetting for her in the short term

Spot on. Said similar earlier.

It may have felt 'clunky' but I thought it was very important. And the fact he was with Kat, also important for her story, either as compare, or contrast.

Yeah, I understood the point he was making but it was such a random way to put it. It made him sound like he was stoned

Ahhh Vince.

He did sound stoned

To be fair, Amira didn't turn up and demand that Yasmin go with her. She came to Syed about the fact that she's getting married, that they plan to settle in Birmingham and that they want Yasmin to live with them. I didn't see anyone laying down the law, I saw someone broaching a very difficult issue as sensitively as she could, in the 20 seconds she was allowed.

Yes, Yasmin is happy and settled with Chryed, but up to the point that Amira went travelling (possibly just a month or so ago - Christian's postcard line, "First Paris, now Rome" suggests that the trip started with Paris, not that Amira had been gone for months on end), she would have been happy and settled with her mother. She has not forgotten Amira; yes, she'll be upset initially when she leaves Chryed but after a short period she'll be absolutely fine.

I don't see Amira's desire to have Yasmin move with her as selfish, or as evidence she doesn't care for her daughter, I just don't. Despite their history Amira tells Christian she wants/ hopes he will continue to play a role in Yasmin's life - if this isn't proof that she's grown and that actually she cares first and foremost about Yasmin, what is it? She has the chance to build a new life for them, to provide emotional and financial stability (not that Chryed can't, but this is about Amira as a mother) and of course she wants this, for her daughter and for herself. Having seen the scene tonight I don't think for a minute she's getting pleasure at the thought of separating Yasmin from Chryed, but her fiance's professional, financial, personal ties are elsewhere - this is the reality of the situation.

Re. the fiance: IMO at this late stage in the s/l the fact that Amira has become engaged quickly is neither here nor there. She's clearly happy, she's marrying him, that's it. From what I can remember we had a spoiler that the fiance actually appears on screen, so it sounds like he comes to collect Yasmin with Amira. I bet he's lovely, the ideal man. This isn't about Yasmin being wrenched from the arms of loving, decent parents and sentenced to a life of torment with people who don't have what it takes to love her or raise her well. This story is about Syed: fiance's going to be caring, charming, successful, keen to become the best stepfather he can to Yasmin, and it will just help to confirm in Syed's mind that he's made a mess of everything in his own life.

It's a bit of a shame it was so badly done because it was an important point to be made, I think.

But randomness with a character he rarely interacts with (who looked slightly worried, quite understandably), with a weird line delivery? Yeah, fail.

I'm so happy for all those going for the final showing of TAPE this weekend. I wish I could go again. but work (and it's my sisters birthday) and car insurance running out soon, and xmas to save for. It all comes at once. :sleep:

I'm sure it will be a blast. Marc is AMAZING!

I shall see all you for Johnny's Panto now. Can't wait!

After re-watching (yes again lol) I think Syed couldn't say ILY because he's worried it's not enough. It's his last, final, ultimate card that's always worked before (if you get what I mean) and he realises he's really ballsed it up, hates himself, and is guilt-ridden. It could be that they can't get over it. If he puts a foot wrong, if he says ILY and it changes nothing then he's truly lost Christian.

Of course what he needs to realise is that's what C needs to hear most!

BIB 1 - Yeah I know it's weird isn't it??

BIB 2 - Yup. Joy. Poor baba. Even Amira's more sorted than him.

Agree with all of this. Think the "throw away the key" line was crap, but what else do you expect from Gittins. Let's just be grateful we didn't get a proud parent speech of how it had taken Yasmin exactly 3.5 seconds to climb to the top of the slide, compared to Tommy's 3.7 seconds.

Yeah, this.

Gittins scripts are usually a mess. I found Sharon's speech about why she and Phil are not perfect parents to be totally cheesy. :sleep:

I'm suddenely hit with sadness that Chryed are off next week.

Somebody, do or say something to make me laugh. :sleep:

Not Chryed related, but if you're watching election coverage:
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/odd/news...ney-watch.html

Ha ha, I saw this on YT a few days ago.

And this is possibly the greatest thing I've ever seen. /no hype. :sleep: