[Kenkennedykenne]

The other day, Kat complained that she was too tired to work. She was advised by Roxy and Alfie to go get some rest, but what does she do? Hang out with Kim drinking all day

[Scrabbler]

It's not Kats fault that she"s all shagged out.

[vaslav37]

I want both of them out of the Vic

[GGzSux]

Yes, I'd love that to happen.

...and I'm sick and tried of Kat taking shots at Roxy whenever the pair of them are on screen. Love Roxy to smack her in the mouth....or better still, steal her husband. Let's see how she likes being cheated on.

[Lousiana]

Originally Posted by GGzSux

I'm sick and tried of Kat taking shots at Roxy whenever the pair of them are on screen. Love Roxy to smack her in the mouth....or better still, steal her husband.

Given that Roxy tried to seduce her husband and Roxy's mad sister kidnapped Kat's baby I think Kat has every right not to like Roxy.

But since you believe Kat is so much worse than Roxy I don't think Roxy "smacking Kat in the mouth" or "stealing her husband" would do Roxy any favours, surely she then loses this supposed moral high ground that people believe she has over Kat?

[Lousiana]

Actually the other day when Roxy was going on about how Kat & Alfie had kept Tommy in their bedroom for too long, I wanted Kat to turn round and say something about how they would not have felt the need to do this if Ronnie hadn't snatched Tommy.

[vald]

Originally Posted by Lousiana

Actually the other day when Roxy was going on about how Kat & Alfie had kept Tommy in their bedroom for too long, I wanted Kat to turn round and say something about how they would not have felt the need to do this if Ronnie hadn't snatched Tommy.

I was waiting for that too. Ronnie stealing their baby is the reason Kat has kept him so close.

If Kat chose to relax by having a drink with her best friend it's none of Roxy's business...she can't send her to bed

[Kenkennedykenne]

Originally Posted by Lousiana

Given that Roxy tried to seduce her husband and Roxy's mad sister kidnapped Kat's baby I think Kat has every right not to like Roxy.

But since you believe Kat is so much worse than Roxy I don't think Roxy "smacking Kat in the mouth" or "stealing her husband" would do Roxy any favours, surely she then loses this supposed moral high ground that people believe she has over Kat?

The second point is questionable, but the first is just plain wrong. Whilst Roxy did try to seduce Alfie, Kat had had plenty of affairs by that point

[monalisa62003]

Originally Posted by vald

I was waiting for that too. Ronnie stealing their baby is the reason Kat has kept him so close.

If Kat chose to relax by having a drink with her best friend it's none of Roxy's business...she can't send her to bed

To be fair kat was supposed to be working and roxy is her boss

[Kenkennedykenne]

Originally Posted by vald

I was waiting for that too. Ronnie stealing their baby is the reason Kat has kept him so close.

If Kat chose to relax by having a drink with her best friend it's none of Roxy's business...she can't send her to bed

Yes, but if Kat took time off work to drink all day, that is a clear problem, especially when Kat was laughing and joking and not acting tired

[GGzSux]

Originally Posted by Lousiana

Given that Roxy tried to seduce her husband and Roxy's mad sister kidnapped Kat's baby I think Kat has every right not to like Roxy.

But since you believe Kat is so much worse than Roxy I don't think Roxy "smacking Kat in the mouth" or "stealing her husband" would do Roxy any favours, surely she then loses this supposed moral high ground that people believe she has over Kat?

Kat's never liked Roxy since day one, so let's not dress this up here.

..and considering Kat cheated on Alfie countless times in the past, I find it hilarious that the moment someone shows any sign of interest towards him she has the audacity to warn them off.
Also, it wasn't Roxy's fault Ronnie kidnapped Kat's baby either, but you obviously think so...but whatever.

[priscilla]

I dont like either of them in the vic, but I'd like to see Roxy kick Kalfie out the vic.

[vald]

Originally Posted by monalisa62003

To be fair kat was supposed to be working and roxy is her boss

Roxy is manager, Kat is still the landlady. But even if they've somehow turned Roxy into her employer she still can't send her to bed. Kat chose to unwind by having a drink.

And I wish Roxy would stop the lectures on childcare...she has no idea how traumatic it is to have your child stolen and believe it to be dead.

[AngelicPrincess]

On a personal level maybe but if you refuse to do the job you are paid to do and in front of your boss get pissed anyone else would fire your ass. I can not imagine any boss putting up with that. No I wont work my shift and while I refuse to work I will get drunk. Even her tired excuse without getting pissed would not fly. She is no longer on maternity leave if your child is ill you can take time off but every mother has at some point worked while shattered because her baby was up all night. She should try having a baby when they get colic and working a full time job. And no I do not want the "fighting". I like the chemistry Roxy has with Alfie so I would be interested to explore that but if we are talking about the title of the thread what Kat did in any other work place would get her fired.

[Miss Melon]

Originally Posted by GGzSux

Kat's never liked Roxy since day one, so let's not dress this up here.

..and considering Kat cheated on Alfie countless times in the past, I find it hilarious that the moment someone shows any sign of interest towards him she has the audacity to warn them off.
Also, it wasn't Roxy's fault Ronnie kidnapped Kat's baby either, but you obviously think so...but whatever.

BIB: Whilst that may be so, the fact that Roxy's sister stole Tommy would hardly do Kat and Roxy's relationship any favours. Ok so maybe it wasn't Roxy's fault, but it would just be one more reason to dislike Roxy anyway.

I do like Kalfie in the vic, but they have been ruined by BK. If LN can get them back to how they were then I'd like to see them stay. On that note, I have really been enjoying their more recent scenes together, and I'm pleased to see that Kat's makeup has been toned down!

[priscilla]

Roxy giving lectures about children, its like Jack giving a lecture about celibasy. It just doesnt make sense and shouldnt happen.

[Kenkennedykenne]

Originally Posted by priscilla

Roxy giving lectures about children, its like Jack giving a lecture about celibasy. It just doesnt make sense and shouldnt happen.

A better comparison would be Kat giving Celibacy Lectures

[priscilla]

Originally Posted by Kenkennedykenne

A better comparison would be Kat giving Celibacy Lectures

Yes your right.

[Lousiana]

Originally Posted by priscilla

Roxy giving lectures about children, its like Jack giving a lecture about celibasy. It just doesnt make sense and shouldnt happen.

This, who is Roxy to lecture anyone on parenthood, she left her child with psycho Ben and she nearly drowned in the bath.

[Scrabbler]

Originally Posted by Lousiana

Actually the other day when Roxy was going on about how Kat & Alfie had kept Tommy in their bedroom for too long, I wanted Kat to turn round and say something about how they would not have felt the need to do this if Ronnie hadn't snatched Tommy.

Maybe Kats wise to realise that Roxys not to blame for the sins her sister committed? Why hold that against her?

[Rose-Addict]

I remember a few months ago when an ungrateful Kat fired Roxy as soon as she returned, despite knowing Roxy had a child in her care, so I'd love Roxy to do the same.

[Lousiana]

Originally Posted by Kenkennedykenne

The second point is questionable, but the first is just plain wrong. Whilst Roxy did try to seduce Alfie, Kat had had plenty of affairs by that point

How is the second point questionable? Ronnie stole Kat's baby, that's the bottom line, while it may not have been Roxy's fault you can understand why Kat may be uncomfortable around her.

Kat hasn't blamed Roxy, but she would've had every right to turn round and bring it up the other night. How dare Roxy give lectures about the way Kat and Alfie parent Tommy when she hardly sees her own daughter and Kat and Alfie were led to believe Tommy was dead for four months because of Roxy's sister.

And however you choose to look at it Roxy told Kat's husband she loved him and clearly wanted things to progress further but Alfie wasn't keen. If Alfie had've been up for it then Roxy's knickers would've been off in a flash with no thought for Kat. It doesn't matter what Kat has done, the fact she has cheated doesn't mean it wouldn't be cheating if Alfie were to do the same. At this point Kat was not cheating on Alfie, she was away caring for her father who had suffered a stroke. What Roxy did was low but then what do you expect from a woman who a few weeks before was trying to bed the man whose wife had cancer.

[Lousiana]

Originally Posted by Rose-Addict

I remember a few months ago when an ungrateful Kat fired Roxy as soon as she returned, despite knowing Roxy had a child in her care, so I'd love Roxy to do the same.

Again since some believe Roxy has the moral high ground over Kat, I fail to see how doing something like that would enable her to keep it?

Roxy was helping Alfie out while Kat was away there was never any indication the job was permanent. The pub was in a right mess anyway and Kat had come home to find her Auntie sat in the bath having a complete mental breakdown which Roxy was hardly sympathetic about.

[Mattehhhftw]

How does Roxy have that power if Kat is still the landlord?!

Either way, they should all go and Sharon should be in charge

[Rose-Addict]

Originally Posted by Lousiana

Again since some believe Roxy has the moral high ground over Kat, I fail to see how doing something like that would enable her to keep it?

Roxy was helping Alfie out while Kat was away there was never any indication the job was permanent. The pub was in a right mess anyway and Kat had come home to find her Auntie sat in the bath having a complete mental breakdown which Roxy was hardly sympathetic about.

There is absolutely no doubt that Roxy has moral high ground over Kat (Moon), and I refuse to change my opinion of that - ever.

Fair enough, but if I remember correctly, Kat resorted to insulting Roxy ("ta ta essex") despite Roxy stepping in to manage the pub and even informing Alfie of Jean's situation. Uncalled for comment to be honest, just summing up Kat's character of late.