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Freetime on the Humax Foxsat HDR?
Will this happen with an update any time soon?
I know I can access BBCi player and ITV player but the new interface looks interesting enough to be a great improvement. J |
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Will this happen with an update any time soon?
I know I can access BBCi player and ITV player but the new interface looks interesting enough to be a great improvement. J |
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Will this happen with an update any time soon?
I know I can access BBCi player and ITV player but the new interface looks interesting enough to be a great improvement. J Did you see the Desiree advert which stated that freesat had developed a new EPG called <freetime> but made no reference to the fact that a new box would be required ! |
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What made you think it would arrive ?
Did you see the Desiree advert which stated that freesat had developed a new EPG called <freetime> but made no reference to the fact that a new box would be required ! J |
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I saw the ad and YES - no mention of a new freetime box being required. I paused the ad and read the smallprint. Then decided to ask the question here. Desiree???
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I saw the ad and YES - no mention of a new freetime box being required. I paused the ad and read the smallprint. Then decided to ask the question here. Desiree???
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Did you not follow the get-freetime link - It tells you in step 1.
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poor show
I think not updating existing freesat+ boxes to <freetime> is a mistake. TalkTalk are desperate to GIVE me YouView box!
What benefit does Freesat get from new box revenue? I presume we will at least get the 4od and CH5 on demand some how?!? |
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I think not updating existing freesat+ boxes to <freetime> is a mistake. TalkTalk are desperate to GIVE me YouView box!
, at least it has the latest hardware despite being a poorly specced pvr. The 4 yr old box simply has not got the hardware required or the extra processing and software just like every G1 box (including the Samsung one advertised originally as G2 compliant despite the spec not being finalised).Does your 4 year old phone have 4G ?. Does your 4 yr old TV have Freeview-HD ? I could go on
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My 4 year old sky+hd box would have been updated with the latest epg and on demand services....
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My 4 year old sky+hd box would have been updated with the latest epg and on demand services....
![]() Does it have a backwards epg containing available vod on services which is what freetime adds to the G1 spec. ?
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I havent got sky.....
The backward epg isnt the issue ....great functionality but not essentil. This is more a quibble about the additional on demand services which yes 4 year old sky hd boxes have been updated to utilise... http://www.sky.com/shop/tv/on-demand/ |
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I havent got sky.....
The backward epg isnt the issue ....great functionality but not essentil. This is more a quibble about the additional on demand services which yes 4 year old sky hd boxes have been updated to utilise... http://www.sky.com/shop/tv/on-demand/ Quote:
I think not updating existing freesat+ boxes to <freetime> is a mistake. freetime uses mheg5 which the earlier boxes can't use. Developing a different vod service for the G1 box isn't that simple or cheap especially for a box that presumably shortly will be out of production. Like it or not it won't happen. |
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Dont get me wrong, I am no fan of Sky, but I think this shows that they future proofed their boxes better.
I can still dust off an older sky box in my garage than my freesat+ box and get a more up to date service. |
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Dont get me wrong, I am no fan of Sky, but I think this shows that they future proofed their boxes better.
I can still dust off an older sky box in my garage than my freesat+ box and get a more up to date service. On a more serious note that is only because they contolled the hardware spec from the start. I believe they will suffer in due course as some time the design must change and then I think they have to conform to < 0.5w rule. |
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I do understand your point.
I have been a big promoter of freesat but its going to be difficult for them when the boxes are so expensive and YouView ones are being given away. |
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I do understand your point.
I have been a big promoter of freesat but its going to be difficult for them when the boxes are so expensive and YouView ones are being given away. , you cannot even change the display settings on the youview boxes urselves from TT, i for 1 could have 1 but y bother when i paid trade price for my freetime box and £1.25 a month for my full TT package
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I presume we will at least get the 4od and CH5 on demand some how?!? It seems Freesat are blaming Channel 4 for not developing a 4 On Demand MPEG player for the Foxsat, Channel 4 will blame Freesat for using HTML5 tech in their new box, Humax take no responsibility for anything, they just do as they're told. Channel 5 are in bed with Sky and are trying to undermine the future of Freesat with their dire picture quality.
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Dont get me wrong, I am no fan of Sky, but I think this shows that they future proofed their boxes better.
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[quote=IQ1;62665815 Channel 5 are in bed with Sky and are trying to undermine the future of Freesat with their dire picture quality.
[/QUOTE]Not sure how you come to this conclusion, the Channel 5 SD satellite line up is crap on any platform. Why do you think exactly the same transmissions will be any better on a sky box ? It's purely down to too many channels on one transponder., whether you watch on a sky box, a freesat box or a generic fta box it's exactly the same dire picture. In fact one excuse from ch5 is that sky have approved the picture quality which is pretty close to the blurry vision used by the numerous other crap Sky has on their epg (also a few on the freesat epg) |
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Not sure how you come to this conclusion, the Channel 5 SD satellite line up is crap on any platform. Why do you think exactly the same transmissions will be any better on a sky box ?
I kind of doubt Ch 5 are in any hurry to bring CH5 HD to Freesat and they don't seem to care how pixelated their SD transmission gets. (I hardly ever watch fuzzy 5) |
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I do understand your point.
I have been a big promoter of freesat but its going to be difficult for them when the boxes are so expensive and YouView ones are being given away. But in a year or two I fully expect you to be back here moaning why your youview box can't display 4K (most notably it probably can but Freeview is unlikely to have the bandwdith to deliver it). That's one crucial thing some people tend to forget, Freeview is allegedly short of bandwidth and nearly all future TV services are using technologies that demand more and more bandwidth eg 3D, 4K, Super Hi Vis etc. 4K doubles the pixel count so expect massive bandwidth demand. I understand 4K tv's will be hitting the shelves in greater numbers next year and presumably dropping in price so its only a matter of time before broadcasters are under presssure to deliver 4K in much the same way they delivered HD. We're already starting to see 4K PC screens. |
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4K doubles the pixel count
Cheers, David. |
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4k TV is exactly four times the number of pixels as full HD.
Cheers, David. I think I know what White-Knight meant 4K doubles the number of consecutive pixels in any linear direction.
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I am not sure that is strictly true. As I understand it, the memory available in even the newest Sky+HD boxes is pretty small. Streaming TV for catch-up services is not possible. The user has to download any programming they want to see to the HDD then play from their planner......
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, at least it has the latest hardware despite being a poorly specced pvr. The 4 yr old box simply has not got the hardware required or the extra processing and software just like every G1 box (including the Samsung one advertised originally as G2 compliant despite the spec not being finalised).
