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Old 10-11-2012, 13:41
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Hi all,

i was just wondering if anyone has looked on the three website recently and seen there new super fast internet launched .

i have done a postcode search and i am in the area.

Do i need to get a new sim card to support the new Internet or does it do everything automatly?

i have the new iPhone 5 .

thankyou
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Old 10-11-2012, 13:43
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The Three 'superfast' it refering to their DC-HSPA connection which is rolling out at the moment across the network and supports up to 42Mbps but on average lots of people are getting around 20Mbps.

LTE is being rolled out next year

If you have an iPhone 5 you dont need to do anything, once you get it in your area you will see a speed jump with no new equipment or charge
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Old 10-11-2012, 13:44
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Old 10-11-2012, 13:46
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OK no problem, do i ring them and ask them for a new sim or will i be charged?

I don't want to sign a new contract that's all.
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Old 10-11-2012, 13:48
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ok thank you ill try it later on then , not seen a jump as such at the minute.

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Old 10-11-2012, 16:15
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ok thank you ill try it later on then , not seen a jump as such at the minute.

thanks
Get the speed test app for your phone and try that out, will show you what speeds you are getting. Try it out at different times of the day to see how or if the speed is fluctuating. The new Iphone should be capable of achieving good speeds on DC HSPA+ But there are factors which will have an impact on your speeds, but you will definiately get a speed bump over standard 3g and since you aren't being charged extra it's a win win for you.

https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/spee...300704847?mt=8
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Old 10-11-2012, 16:17
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thankyou for your reply will have a check now.
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Old 10-11-2012, 17:50
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Not much point in 4g at the moment if you can get 20mb downloads for cheaper.
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Old 10-11-2012, 18:12
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yeah true, im going to try the three one as it says i can get it in my area just need three simcard iv got the iphone 5 ready to try it .
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Old 10-11-2012, 19:34
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yeah true, im going to try the three one as it says i can get it in my area just need three simcard iv got the iphone 5 ready to try it .
That's not 4G though, it's still only 3G and DC-HSDPA probably isn't turned on in your area yet, it's in very few areas at the moment and it could take a while before you get it.
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Old 10-11-2012, 20:21
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He's already said its in his area. Its actually surprised me that its avaliable in most town/city centres at the moment
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Old 10-11-2012, 20:51
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It's covering about 40% of the UK population now according to 3's website so that means DC-HSPA+ should be in most big cities and surrounding areas already. As has been stated many times the speed won't make a noticeable difference doing things on a smartphone but the upgrade allows 3 to provide more data to more users at the same time so that should improve performance for all. The only drawback presently is the small number of devices that support DC-HSPA+ but for iPhone 5 owners and the few others that have the facility it will be a big benefit although as more compatible devices come on stream the benefit will diminish due to demand on the network.

3 are not the only network deploying DC-HSPA+ in the UK. Others have also been upgrading and adding this new more efficient data delivery to not just the 2100MHz bandwidth that all networks have (which has issues penetrating buildings), but to 900MHz frequency bandwidth (which only O2 and Vodafone have) that provides a much better level of coverage, especially in built up urban areas where building penetration is essential.

Lower frequencies penetrate buildings better that is why the most valuable spectrum will be the 850MHz range for LTE. 1800Mhz that EE own and 3 bought are nowhere as good as 850MHz to deliver data in cities. Ofcom will auction spectrum soon and early adopters of LTE with 1800MHz only equipment (which is all that is available now from the networks), will be restricted to services that won't be the best performing in the market. Both 3 and EE might win lower frequency spectrum but their customers won't be able to use it with equipment presently available that is only designed to use 1800MHz LTE.
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Old 10-11-2012, 21:30
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It's covering about 40% of the UK population now according to 3's website so that means DC-HSPA+ should be in most big cities and surrounding areas already. As has been stated many times the speed won't make a noticeable difference doing things on a smartphone but the upgrade allows 3 to provide more data to more users at the same time so that should improve performance for all. The only drawback presently is the small number of devices that support DC-HSPA+ but for iPhone 5 owners and the few others that have the facility it will be a big benefit although as more compatible devices come on stream the benefit will diminish due to demand on the network.

3 are not the only network deploying DC-HSPA+ in the UK. Others have also been upgrading and adding this new more efficient data delivery to not just the 2100MHz bandwidth that all networks have (which has issues penetrating buildings), but to 900MHz frequency bandwidth (which only O2 and Vodafone have) that provides a much better level of coverage, especially in built up urban areas where building penetration is essential.

Lower frequencies penetrate buildings better that is why the most valuable spectrum will be the 850MHz range for LTE. 1800Mhz that EE own and 3 bought are nowhere as good as 850MHz to deliver data in cities. Ofcom will auction spectrum soon and early adopters of LTE with 1800MHz only equipment (which is all that is available now from the networks), will be restricted to services that won't be the best performing in the market. Both 3 and EE might win lower frequency spectrum but their customers won't be able to use it with equipment presently available that is only designed to use 1800MHz LTE.
Of course it bloody will, downloading podcasts, downloading apps, updates, updating your emailing inbox, and lots of other tasks will benefit from speed increases.

A 20 meg file like a download from the play store will take just seconds, rather than over a minute, the same with any other downloads or uploads of the photos you take to dropbox, emailing them or flickr etc. You can stream in 720p to match the resolution of your S3 (1280 x 720).

Also as far as penetration goes, at the same distance that's true, but as MBNL has more cells it's not quite as simple as that, if the cell is closer the penetration is better.

RE: the bit in bold: O2 does NOT provide a much better level of coverage, they only cover 90% of the UK with 3G and deal with the least volume of mobile data in the UK despite being the biggest single network.
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Old 11-11-2012, 08:52
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How can i find out of its I'm my area ??
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Old 11-11-2012, 08:56
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It's covering about 40% of the UK population now according to 3's website so that means DC-HSPA+ should be in most big cities and surrounding areas already. As has been stated many times the speed won't make a noticeable difference doing things on a smartphone but the upgrade allows 3 to provide more data to more users at the same time so that should improve performance for all. The only drawback presently is the small number of devices that support DC-HSPA+ but for iPhone 5 owners and the few others that have the facility it will be a big benefit although as more compatible devices come on stream the benefit will diminish due to demand on the network.

3 are not the only network deploying DC-HSPA+ in the UK. Others have also been upgrading and adding this new more efficient data delivery to not just the 2100MHz bandwidth that all networks have (which has issues penetrating buildings), but to 900MHz frequency bandwidth (which only O2 and Vodafone have) that provides a much better level of coverage, especially in built up urban areas where building penetration is essential.

Lower frequencies penetrate buildings better that is why the most valuable spectrum will be the 850MHz range for LTE. 1800Mhz that EE own and 3 bought are nowhere as good as 850MHz to deliver data in cities. Ofcom will auction spectrum soon and early adopters of LTE with 1800MHz only equipment (which is all that is available now from the networks), will be restricted to services that won't be the best performing in the market. Both 3 and EE might win lower frequency spectrum but their customers won't be able to use it with equipment presently available that is only designed to use 1800MHz LTE.
Yet O2 still have the WORST level of 3G coverage!

Your a cracker
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Old 11-11-2012, 09:27
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Yet O2 still have the WORST level of 3G coverage!
Beginning to sound like a broken record!

Why is it necessary to post such a statement in a thread about a different network's latest technology rollout?

Bottom line is that millions are using the network with the 'WORST' level of 3G coverage and making less complaints about it than all the others.

Hopefully this thread can return to the discussion the OP started.
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Old 11-11-2012, 09:59
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I am on 3 and I own an iPhone 5. It currently shows 3G when mobile data is switched on. What should it show when DC-HSPA+ is available to me? I believe it will show LTE when 4G is eventually available.
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Old 11-11-2012, 10:50
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Beginning to sound like a broken record!

Why is it necessary to post such a statement in a thread about a different network's latest technology rollout?

Bottom line is that millions are using the network with the 'WORST' level of 3G coverage and making less complaints about it than all the others.

Hopefully this thread can return to the discussion the OP started.
I'm like a broken record!! Haha!

You have absolutely no idea about the complaints O2 receive. They just seem to be better at handling them in-house before people go to ofcom which is of course what ofcom tell you to do. Your statement makes no sense at all.

We are still waiting in the other thread for your responses to the questions asked....

Anyway, it was necessary to post it as once again you are spouting the same misinformed rubbish about O2 again.
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Old 11-11-2012, 10:51
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I am on 3 and I own an iPhone 5. It currently shows 3G when mobile data is switched on. What should it show when DC-HSPA+ is available to me? I believe it will show LTE when 4G is eventually available.
When i had my 4S and i was getting H/H+ with 3 it never showed it. It only ever showed 3G. I think Apple dont think you need to know. It will however show LTE when 4G rolls out.
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Old 11-11-2012, 11:11
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You have absolutely no idea about the complaints O2 receive.
I posted a link to the Ofcom statistics and they prove that for 7 quarters O2 have had the lowest number of escalated complaints to the regulator. Like it or not that is a FACT!

It's also a FACT that 900MHz is more robust and penetrates buildings better than either 1800 or 2100MHz.

DC-HSPA has been deployed by more than one network although some have publicised its introduction more than others. It's important for users to know that all the networks are updating with new technology to make more efficient use of spectrum so people should shop around and ask friends about their user experience as well as relying on the specs the networks publish.
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Old 11-11-2012, 11:17
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Hopefully this thread can return to the discussion the OP started.
Well I could have stayed on the discussion the OP stated if you hadn't come in like a broken record and churned out the old 900Mhz post again, which I can link to about 50 different instances of the same thing being churned out - talk about broken record.

As we said before you've been very negative about LTE, even suggesting it's pointless on a phone, which I strongly disagree with, but we're expecting that to turn around at a 'certain point'

It will make a difference on a smartphone for the following reasons, downloading podcasts, downloading apps, updates, updating your email inbox, a 20 meg file like a download from the play store will take just seconds, rather than over a minute, the same with any other downloads or uploads of the photos you take to dropbox, emailing them or posting then on flickr, facebook etc. You can stream in 720p to match the resolution of your S3 (1280 x 720) or most smartphones.

Apple don't think you need to know as Stiggles said, so they just display 3G, however there's probably somewhere in the menu where you can see if it's DC?

I find the 3 checker very confusing, everywhere I check it says it doesn't have it and sometimes it comes back and doesn't say either way!, they need to fix that or make it clearer, unless it's just me.
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Old 11-11-2012, 11:20
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I posted a link to the Ofcom statistics and they prove that for 7 quarters O2 have had the lowest number of escalated complaints to the regulator. Like it or not that is a FACT!

It's also a FACT that 900MHz is more robust and penetrates buildings better than either 1800 or 2100MHz.

DC-HSPA has been deployed by more than one network although some have publicised its introduction more than others. It's important for users to know that all the networks are updating with new technology to make more efficient use of spectrum so people should shop around and ask friends about their user experience as well as relying on the specs the networks publish.
Wave just sssshhh now, this topic is about DC-HSPA, I know you want to bring in the same old broken record Ofcom bits and 900Mhz, but please, it's tired and nobody is asking about that in this thread, so it's off topic.
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Old 11-11-2012, 12:22
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900MHz has better penetration of buildings and that also applies to DC-HSPA where it has been deployed. DC-HSPA works on all UMTS frequency ranges so the benefits of the lower frequency UMTS coverage apply in relation to this topic.

regardless of the rollout plans it is probably best to wait until there is a range of 4G handsets and dongles available that cover all of the bands that will be used in the UK for LTE. There will be phones next year with 850/1800/2100/2600MHz LTE, 800/900/2100Mhz UMTS, 900/1800MHz GSM and DC-HSPA. Those not wanting to be restricted to one or two networks using the same 1800MHz range would be advised to postpone their investment until the new hardware arrives on the market.
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Old 11-11-2012, 12:59
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Bloody hell, can this be kept on topic guys, The thread is about THREE's rollout. Not about O2 and Vodafone, not about who has the least complaints or the best frequency, not about whether DC-HSPA+ is needed or not etc...

To answer belfastbear, go here and type in your postcode. On the left it will say if ultrafast internet is available in your area- http://www.three.co.uk/Support/Coverage
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Old 11-11-2012, 13:06
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Bloody hell, can this be kept on topic guys, The thread is about THREE's rollout. Not about O2 and Vodafone, not about who has the least complaints or the best frequency, not about whether DC-HSPA+ is needed or not etc...

To answer belfastbear, go here and type in your postcode. On the left it will say if ultrafast internet is available in your area- http://www.three.co.uk/Support/Coverage
I don't think it's working very well jabbamk1, do you find it doesn't say whether or not it has 'ultrafast' sometimes. I find it a bit confusing and unclear.
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