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Was Cheryl Cole the reason why Kimberley was in the dance off?
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Monaogg
12-11-2012
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TerryM22
12-11-2012
Originally Posted by mimi dlc:
“You have got "carried away" quite a lot last night and this morning as you must have posted at least a dozen very unpleasant comments about Ms Cole.

Your persona is slipping”

I would never say anything unpleasant about Cheryl, but she does get my gander up when I see her on TV. There is always a certain amount of post show euphoria which often spills over into the next morning, when Widdy Dear Russell and LuLu were on the show I was on an exstatic high all the way through the week till the next show, those were the days everything is almost pedestrian since those hallo-cent days.
mimi dlc
12-11-2012
Originally Posted by TerryM22:
“I would never say anything unpleasant about Cheryl, but she does get my gander up when I see her on TV. There is always a certain amount of post show euphoria which often spills over into the next morning, when Widdy Dear Russell and LuLu were on the show I was on an exstatic high all the way through the week till the next show, those were the days everything is almost pedestrian since those hallo-cent days.”


So what was all that dross you were posting?
Poetry?

EDIT
Forget it.
This whole post is blatant WUMmery
mindyann
12-11-2012
Originally Posted by TerryM22:
“I didn't actually fall I managed to recover just in time, it was a bit like a Michael moment at the end of his dance.

I didn't realize I was being bitchy at all, I know I do get carried away sometimes in the heat of the moment and the show excitement but any bitchyness must come from spending to much time with Errol, he's a Super Bitch and proud lol”

Are we supposed to know who Errol is?
TerryM22
12-11-2012
Originally Posted by mimi dlc:
“
So what was all that dross you were posting?
Poetry?

EDIT
Forget it.
This whole post is blatant WUMmery”


My comments are always accurate observations and reflections of the wider picture that is motivating Cheryl to upping her business into the Strictly stage for her own ends, many ambitious girls in showbizz are quite selfish and self centered, I guess its what helps them get on and get noticed, that and the casting couch of course.
TerryM22
12-11-2012
Originally Posted by mindyann:
“Are we supposed to know who Errol is? ”

Sorry, he is my friend.
FingersAndToes
12-11-2012
Originally Posted by TerryM22:
“I don't dislike Cheryl I just wish she would stay at home where Simon sent her and let Kimberley have her chance in the spot light. Cheryl is very camera aware and always in smile mode when they are rolling.”

I would guess that Cheryl was actually invited by Kimberley to support her, isn't Kimberley allowed to invite the people she wants to come and see her? And as far as Simon, he isn't the owner of Cheryl, why even bring him into this silly bash thread?
PorkSausage
12-11-2012
Not unless Cheryl was busy voting for the opposition.

If instead of voting for who you want to go, instead of voting for who you want to save, then the "Cheryl effect" might have been more pronounced.
TerryM22
12-11-2012
Originally Posted by FingersAndToes:
“I would guess that Cheryl was actually invited by Kimberley to support her, isn't Kimberley allowed to invite the people she wants to come and see her? And as far as Simon, he isn't the owner of Cheryl, why even bring him into this silly bash thread?”

The Simon Dannii Cheryl triangle has far reaching implications as we are seeing.
girlcrisis
12-11-2012
Why would Cheryl being in the audience make any difference. If anyone is petty enough to not vote for Kimberley because they hate Cheryl Cole then Saturday night can't have been the first time that they realised the two were associated.

Two things from Saturday night I can see negatively affecting her votes: promoting her solo album (finished just in time for the end of Strictly!) and when Claudia said "Cheryl's lucky, isn't she." and Kimberley seemed to take it as "Cheryl is lucky just because she's Cheryl Cole" and not, as Claudia intended it, "Cheryl's good luck because you got you highest score when she was in the audience."

I was really sorry to see her in the bottom two though. I support her and even though I think Dani and Denise managed to eclipse her this week, her Viennese Waltz was still in the top 3 dances for me. She and Pasha did such a great job with a dance that so often fails to have impact.
lundavra
12-11-2012
Originally Posted by TerryM22:
“My comments are always accurate observations and reflections of the wider picture that is motivating Cheryl to upping her business into the Strictly stage for her own ends, many ambitious girls in showbizz are quite selfish and self centered, I guess its what helps them get on and get noticed, that and the casting couch of course.”

Can't someone just go along to watch a fun show and support a friend without people claiming ulterior motives. Are the others who have been in the audience supporting friends and relatives also been "upping their business"? Are the people who appear on Red Button "upping their business", also are the celebrities who appear as guests on It Takes Two "upping their business"?
lundavra
12-11-2012
Originally Posted by girlcrisis:
“ .... promoting her solo album (finished just in time for the end of Strictly!) ....”

Could the fact that the end of Strictly coincides with the Christmas market (one of the biggest times for album sales) perhaps also be a factor?
girlcrisis
12-11-2012
Originally Posted by lundavra:
“Could the fact that the end of Strictly coincides with the Christmas market (one of the biggest times for album sales) perhaps also be a factor?”

Yes, but it's also naive to think that it's not being released in time to ride the wave of Strictly public exposure. I'm not saying that using Strictly as an opportunity to promote her solo career puts me off supporting; she's entitled to and I won't be buying her album no matter how often she mentions it anyway. I'm just saying that I can see why it might put other people off voting for her.
FingersAndToes
12-11-2012
Originally Posted by lundavra:
“Could the fact that the end of Strictly coincides with the Christmas market (one of the biggest times for album sales) perhaps also be a factor?”

Very true, don't most of the artist try to get their albums out for the biggest selling times?

Seriously, if the 10 seconds Cheryl was shown on screen caused someone to not vote for Kimberley, they wouldn't have voted for anyway.
olivej
12-11-2012
Originally Posted by TLC1098:
“A lot of people dislike Cheryl Cole so with her there supporting Kimberley last night could that have put alot of people off voting for her?”

no, of course not, Kimberly was in the dance off because she didnt get enough votes

I am guessing people thought she was perfectly safe being second on the leader board - I did - just goes to show that no matter where you are on the leader board, you are not safe and can end up in the dance off
PinkPetunia
12-11-2012
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CravenHaven
12-11-2012
Originally Posted by mimi dlc:
“
So what was all that dross you were posting?
Poetry?

EDIT
Forget it.
This whole post is blatant WUMmery”

Tumbleweed Terry is more honest about what he doesn't like than what he does. You didn't fall for anything. Hardly anyone does.
holly berry
12-11-2012
No. I suspect that most people thought she was safe because she and Pasha danced so well so they voted for the ones who seemed to be in most danger - same thing happend last year to Anita and Bobby (before they had reached the end of their limitations as a duo) and they received a bounce back effect the following week. Kimberley and Pasha being in the bottom two is one of the surprises of recent years - thank God for the dance-off otherwise they might have been voted off!
katmobile
12-11-2012
Originally Posted by isledance:
“Dont believe everything you read in the papers and dont believe the results on SCD are so squeaky clean (after all ther arent on any other show) There could be some hidden agenda why Kimberley was where she ended up and please dont ask me to be specific its just a feeling I have just lost all faith in the BBc and fair play”

Why would they do it and why have you lost faith so badly you believe they would? Is it just possible that the combination of not seeming to be in danger, a dance less likely to make an impact and possibly a bit too much self promotion of the day job did for her?
mimi dlc
12-11-2012
Originally Posted by mindyann:
“Are we supposed to know who Errol is? ”

More importantly, are we meant to care?
TerryM22
12-11-2012
Originally Posted by lundavra:
“Can't someone just go along to watch a fun show and support a friend without people claiming ulterior motives. Are the others who have been in the audience supporting friends and relatives also been "upping their business"? Are the people who appear on Red Button "upping their business", also are the celebrities who appear as guests on It Takes Two "upping their business"?”

Not in Cheryl's case, she obviously has ulterior motives for upping her business into Strictly Come Dancing.
minimina
12-11-2012
Serious answer...

Cheryl's presence (and the way attention was drawn to her) probably didn't help Kimberley much.

There has been a perception that she is safe from the start, having the Girls Aloud fanbase behind her, then highlighting that she is best friends with one of Britain's best known celebrities made her seem even safer.

The dance-off is making the votes a lot more erratic - people are voting for the people they think are at risk (Fern last week, Richard this week) and the ones that don't seem to be at risk aren't getting as much attention, so it seems.

Kimberley will be fine next week - her fans will vote to protect her and being in the dance-off will give her another "storyline" - which she desperately needs, as her personality is not shining out at the moment (hence the bot tag).
TerryM22
12-11-2012
Originally Posted by minimina:
“Serious answer...

Cheryl's presence (and the way attention was drawn to her) probably didn't help Kimberley much.

There has been a perception that she is safe from the start, having the Girls Aloud fanbase behind her, then highlighting that she is best friends with one of Britain's best known celebrities made her seem even safer.

The dance-off is making the votes a lot more erratic - people are voting for the people they think are at risk (Fern last week, Richard this week) and the ones that don't seem to be at risk aren't getting as much attention, so it seems.

Kimberley will be fine next week - her fans will vote to protect her and being in the dance-off will give her another "storyline" - which she desperately needs, as her personality is not shining out at the moment (hence the bot tag).”


I agree with what you say.
catkins198
12-11-2012
I would think either people thought she was safe or she just isn't that popular with the public.

I certainly don't dislike her but I can't seem to really warm to her. I like Pasha and thought last year with Chelsea he did some great dances but this year I have been bored by him and Kimberley.

I actually wanted Chelsea to win last year which was surprising as when I heard she was one of the celebrities I was disappointed as I didn't like her in Waterloo Road and even at the beginning of Strictly I didn't like her. Then week by week I warmed to her, she seemed a nice person, I loved the relationship she had with Pasha and she turned out to be a very good dancer. I was also impressed that she did so well when she had such a busy schedule filming Waterloo Road.

I can't stand Cheryl Cole but her being in the audience would not stop be voting for anyone if I liked them and/or their dance enough
snogglewort
12-11-2012
A lot of people on here still wearing their Chelsee blinkers, that is not fair to Kimberley. They are two completely different ladies. No point comparing the two at all.

Time to take off the Chelsee-tinted glasses and see people in a different light now I think.
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