Is it just me that gets annoyed when new watchers of the show try and undermine you about your knowledge of the show regardless of how long you've watched it for?

I've watched the show from the very early days of Natasha Kaplinsky and professionals like Nicole Cutler so I can call myself a dedicated Strictly Fan. But with Strictly beating X-Factor this year people are gradually gravitating to Strictly and enjoying it.

And that's good to see, it's a great show. But I had an 'argument' the other day with someone who only started watching this series and they tried to force their knowing of the show onto me and say that I was wrong for saying that it's time for Brucie to go because the show is going in a younger direction and the same jokes are becoming more tedious than ever.

I wouldn't try and push my knowledge of the show on anyone but if I did I'd know the show from the very beginning kind of thing?

Whether this is just me I don't know but it does get my back up if I'm honest.

Hmmm. I think "having a different opinion" isn't necessarily the same as "undermining [one's] knowledge of the show".

Whether Bruce should go or stay is a matter of opinion. There is no right or wrong, so both you and your friend are entitled to your differing opinions regardless of how long or otherwise you've been watching.

If she had insisted that Christopher Parker had won Series 1 or Ramps and Karen danced their AT to "A View To A Kill" - arguing against factual, indisputable points - then that's different.

Agree to differ.

If you are confident in your opinion then you won't feel undermined.

I am in complete agreement with how you feel and further to that the hatred and venom directed at you if you are honest and explain you are a professional dancer too is quite apalling it just means that you are passionate and my back is up on quite a few of these threads (I expect someone will tell us both to grow up or something as a result of these postings)

Since time immemorial on here, those who "like" someone or something about a show can sometimes take it "really personally" if another poster doesn't.
Yet generally speaking, those who don't like something about "them" or "it" really don't mind if someone else thinks "they" or "it" are the best thing since sliced bread.

It's just the nature of things,

Then there's other people of either persuasion who are just plain ignorant.

I've watched the show since the start and I want Bruce to stay...

I actually agree with the point the op is making but think the example used is not the best to back it up...

I get what you're saying I really do, but I firmly believe that one opinion is just as justified as another, regardless of how long you've been watching.

I've been watching since series 1 but I have no dancing knowledge, so sometimes it's nice to here from people who can dance who may only have started watching this series.

I think if respect is shown on both sides all opinions are welcome, it's when either side is shouted down or ridiculed that I get annoyed.

It's still just a matter of opinion. As Doghouse Riley says, "Yet generally speaking, those who don't like something about "them" or "it" really don't mind if someone else thinks "they" or "it" are the best thing since sliced bread".
It's got nothing to do with how long someone's been watching the show. I've watched from the beginning and am happy for Bruce to stay but wouldn't be upset if he went.

It would be a very sad day if I ever got into an argument regarding "my knowledge of the show"

It is all light entertainment fluff and none of it matters.

BTW has Strictly Come Dancing ever come up as a specialist subject on Mastermind ?

exactly

one is opinion, the other is fact

I kind of miss the days when SCD was less popular because with its increasing popularity has come (imho) increasingly pointless/unfunny/irritating things like "comedy" VTs, propography and endless judge bothering.

Yep, agree totally! And nobody's opinion has any more or less value because they've been watching the show longer than anyone else.

It wasn't an argument like a typical argument. Just more of a strongish disagreement.

And my opinion doesn't mean more than anyone else's but it was also the way that they said it to me as if I knew nothing and infect it was them who tried to make their opinion more valid than my own so it got my back up.

I think the reason this tends to put people's backs up is that it might look as though you're trying to dismiss the validity of someone else's point of view by declaring yourself as an "expert" (although this may not have been your intention).

It's very common on the interwebs for people to say "I'm a professional dancer/singer/sound engineer/actor/military tactician/particle physicist/neurosurgeon/ex-SAS commando/Nobel laureate/expert-in-whatever-is-being-discussed" as a means of giving themselves more apparent authority, and hence the right to the definitive word on a particular matter. They may or may not be telling the truth (not that I'm doubting your own sincerity), but either way we all meet as anonymous peers on web forums, and our arguments stand or fall on their own intrinsic merits, rather than as a result of self-declared expertise on a particular subject.

The favourite one is "I'm in television so I know."

If that were true, why spend so much time on here?

Thanks for that you are in tune with me but its the arrogance of those who just dismiss the professional thought pattern which infuriates(and go on to say they like that particular celebs smile or hairstyle that rubs salt into the dismissals!!!!

Dismissing the opinion of the nonprofessional is just as arogant .

Dance is a discipline and an art, which means that both views are essential. Experts can judge technique, but ordinary civilians are ideally placed to gauge whether the dance succeeds as art (i.e. communication). Does it make you feel anything or understand the 'story'?

No, but it's been a category on Pointless - says it all really

I'm a non-professional, non trained social dancer of mainly salsa, bachata and west coast swing, a little AT a few years ago, and about 30 years ago I danced with a belly dancing troupe on the West Coast of the USA. I have quite strong opinions of what I do and don't like. I don't always agree with others nor them with me, but that's fine it's what keeps life interesting. Just don't like it when posters get obtuse or nasty.

no it is not not when it is based on lightweight remarks

It's a Saturday night family entertainment show, not the World Championships. It's also a show which encourages its viewers to vote for their "favourites", not the best dancers, so if people want to spend 15p+ of their own money they have the right to do so on whatever grounds they choose, be that dance technique, personality or the fact the celeb's shade of lipstick exactly matched their outfit (and that's just Richard...)

Well said.

The original concept of SCD has been done to death. IIRC the originator saw it as an entertaining show about celebrities learning ballroom & Latin dancing. Not Come Dancing with celebrities where technique and ability is paramount.

I really love when knowledgeable people talk about the dances, and I appreciate them taking the time to do so. When they clearly show bias for one particular dancer though, and are criticising other dancers when it isn't deserved (e.g. when other pros have said how well they danced) I find it more difficult to take them seriously.

Hmmm. Just had my valid opinion dismissed.

even more lightweight I think (enough already)

So is yours the only opinion on DS that matters?