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Old 12-11-2012, 18:19
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Hi all just ordered a 4g sim card on a 4g tarriff from EE,

Anyone done any speed tests yet on the new 4g in sheffield or anywhere close?

thanks
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Old 12-11-2012, 19:25
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You must have money to burn when there are data deals that allow tethering and with speeds not much less than EE's LTE available for a lot less.
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Old 12-11-2012, 19:31
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Ad wave says, right now DC-HSDPA on three is almost as fast, alot cheaper and unlimited
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Old 13-11-2012, 00:13
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Theres a few speed test threads about all can be summed up in one word "Disappointing"

Stick with HSPA+ or DC HSPA+ its cheaper and just as fast.
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Old 13-11-2012, 07:35
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Theres a few speed test threads about all can be summed up in one word "Disappointing"

Stick with HSPA+ or DC HSPA+ its cheaper and just as fast.

but like 4G you cant get good speeds everywhere
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Old 13-11-2012, 07:53
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but like 4G you cant get good speeds everywhere
EE's 4G only covers about 20% of the UK population in a few big cities now. It will be extended to more before the end of the year but it will take years for it to reach the coverage of 3G.

Check the coverage to ensure it is available for home and travel use.
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Old 13-11-2012, 07:57
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EE's 4G only covers about 20% of the UK population in a few big cities now. It will be extended to more before the end of the year but it will take years for it to reach the coverage of 3G.

Check the coverage to ensure it is available for home and travel use.
You are totally right however these locations where you reach more than 3MBPS on 3G are few and far between. I am a HGV driver and I drive all around the country and I have only found one place so far where I reached above this.
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Old 13-11-2012, 08:17
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I regularly get 8-10 mb on vodafone and the wife on 3 even more often
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Old 13-11-2012, 09:22
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You are totally right however these locations where you reach more than 3MBPS on 3G are few and far between. I am a HGV driver and I drive all around the country and I have only found one place so far where I reached above this.
How do you not get above 3mbps. 3Mbps is the minimum I get almost everywhere.

I agree with people here, no point spending that much ATM. 3g is cheaper and gives better allowances and sort of similar speeds (good enough for a mobile)
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Old 13-11-2012, 09:59
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How do you not get above 3mbps. 3Mbps is the minimum I get almost everywhere.

I agree with people here, no point spending that much ATM. 3g is cheaper and gives better allowances and sort of similar speeds (good enough for a mobile)
I dont know, I really do put it down to it not being available in many areas.

What network are you on ?

I use t-mobile and 3 and neither see over 3Mbps on a regular basis and no it is not my phone lol
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Old 13-11-2012, 12:27
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Im on T-Mobile and normally get 4-6Mbs all the time apart from its been abit freaky the last week cos im in hull and our 4G is due in the next week or so,
Ive been in touch with them about it and the last mast testing is due to finish today and its caused a few niggles with the 3G side of it she said which has caused a few speed drops as they have been turning the mast's on/off ect.
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Old 13-11-2012, 14:28
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I can regularly get about 2 - 3Mbps down and about 1Mbps up in my house which rises to 7 - 8Mbps down and 3Mbps up later on at night. A test there just produced 0.9 down and 0.3 up! I also struggle to get 3Mbps anywhere in Belfast during the day! I've had a 4G sim for over a week now just waiting on our 4G being turned on and I know that I will definitely benefit from it!
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Old 13-11-2012, 16:10
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EE's 4G only covers about 20% of the UK population in a few big cities now. It will be extended to more before the end of the year but it will take years for it to reach the coverage of 3G
Only 2 years and probably before that since 1800 covers better than 2100. I spoke to EE CS the other day and the guy said we should have LTE down here in Devon by next Summer or just after. 70% by 2013 should cover Plymouth and Exeter (I'm between them). I remember when 2G rolled out we had Orange here at 60-65% coverage.
I moved to EE now so my contract wasn't extended by more than a month overall. I agree that for most people, staying with 3G is the way to go but I'm a techy and like new things and am happy to pay for it. It's only costing me 5 quid a month more for more data than I had on Orange and in any case, once the EE signalbox (Femto) appears in the next month hopefully, I'll save about 20 quid a month that it currently costs me to call mobiles from my landline. So I'll be 15 quid up even though I can only use 3G at the moment.
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Old 13-11-2012, 16:22
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I dont know, I really do put it down to it not being available in many areas.

What network are you on ?

I use t-mobile and 3 and neither see over 3Mbps on a regular basis and no it is not my phone lol
I use Three and O2, (T-Mobile sometimes/rarely)

Three and T-Mobile are always over 2-3Mbps. On average i'd say its around 4-6mbps with 8-12mbps being the top end. Although now with DC-HSPA+ devices like the new iPad etc... i've seen my friends get around 14-20Mbps constantly in enabled areas.

O2 are good in some areas but abysmal in others. I guess it does depend on location but with Three i seem to get faster speeds in most places. (not consistent though, can be 4meg one time, can be 10meg the other time, O2 is always consistent speeds)
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Old 13-11-2012, 16:24
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You are totally right however these locations where you reach more than 3MBPS on 3G are few and far between. I am a HGV driver and I drive all around the country and I have only found one place so far where I reached above this.
I find this hard to believe unless we are just very lucky down here. It's true that lots of times I'll only get 1.5 - 3meg but often I'll get 6-8 meg even from rural cells and of course there's my favourite HSPA+ cell in Totnes that I got 20.5 off the other day.
God, I've got a favourite cell, I am a sad boy
What handset do you have? I had an iPhone 3Gs which never really went above 5Mbps as it was a HSDPA 7.2 phone as is the iPhone 4.
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Old 13-11-2012, 16:46
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Only 2 years and probably before that since 1800 covers better than 2100. I spoke to EE CS the other day and the guy said we should have LTE down here in Devon by next Summer or just after. 70% by 2013 should cover Plymouth and Exeter (I'm between them). I remember when 2G rolled out we had Orange here at 60-65% coverage.
I moved to EE now so my contract wasn't extended by more than a month overall. I agree that for most people, staying with 3G is the way to go but I'm a techy and like new things and am happy to pay for it. It's only costing me 5 quid a month more for more data than I had on Orange and in any case, once the EE signalbox (Femto) appears in the next month hopefully, I'll save about 20 quid a month that it currently costs me to call mobiles from my landline. So I'll be 15 quid up even though I can only use 3G at the moment.
I think there are haters for everything mate but it's down to personal preference. You and I are happy to go to 4G and not have to extend our contracts for a further 24 months when it does launch, this I see as good business sense. More so as I am getting exactly the same package with what will be faster than the pitiful speeds I get now for the same price, and you as you will soon have a femto meaning landline savings.

If I could get the 10-12Mb speeds that others on 3G are getting I would still change. I am paying the same price, for the same package, except on 4G. Even if I was only getting a slightly quicker service it would be worth while. Although I'm confident that I will be getting much quicker speeds
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Old 13-11-2012, 17:02
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I think there are haters for everything mate but it's down to personal preference. You and I are happy to go to 4G and not have to extend our contracts for a further 24 months when it does launch, this I see as good business sense. More so as I am getting exactly the same package with what will be faster than the pitiful speeds I get now for the same price, and you as you will soon have a femto meaning landline savings.

If I could get the 10-12Mb speeds that others on 3G are getting I would still change. I am paying the same price, for the same package, except on 4G. Even if I was only getting a slightly quicker service it would be worth while. Although I'm confident that I will be getting much quicker speeds
I totally see your point. But tbh its not avaliable to more than 11 cities at the moment. Unless you tether or stream videos it wont make a huge difference in day to day lives. The data allowances are low. 3g speeds aren't far off first Gen 4g speeds and fine for mobile use. 4g would be considered expensive to me as I pay £12.50 for 2000 mins unl data and texts. To get the same on EE with only 12gb data (which I could use in 5 days or less) I'd have to pay £76pm minimum on a 24m contract.

Also 4G phones are limited in terms of future frequency support, and they are battery hogs. So even though I see your point, 4g is pointless for many people. I don't think ill get it until its widespread and cheaper

So you can see the other side as well
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Old 13-11-2012, 17:07
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There is also the issue of being saddled with a device that does not support the 850/2600MHz LTE bands being introduced next year. Buy an LTE device now and you will be stuck with a choice of EE and 3 for the life of that product. Not a good proposition to take advantage of the competition that will deliver reduced costs next summer.
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Old 13-11-2012, 18:19
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By the time my contract is up (October 2014) EE will have the same coverage on LTE that they do on 3G. I will hopefully have experienced a good many months LTE with my iPhone 5.
This is the reason I'm not waiting till we get LTE to move and moving now instead. If I waited a year my contract would then expire a year later in 2015. Also I would then be probably upgrading on the interim iPhone handset (4s,5s?).
Whereas now (assuming Apple carry on the same) I will be able to upgrade when the iPhone 6 (or whatever it will be called) comes out.
I had a 3Gs for 3 years (one year out of contract, skipping the 4s) to get the iPhone 5.
Don't want to muck it all up again.
Not worried about the lack of 800/2600Mhz on my current handset. Pretty certain 2014 iPhone will support these.
Also fairly certain that EE have a plan to do 1800 from every cell and then fill rural holes with 800 and boost capacity in urban areas with 2600. Assuming they get 800.
If 1800 LTE gives me even 30% better coverage than 3G then I shall be very happy.
From the Cool smartphone edge of coverage LTE test video I think this will be the case.
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Old 13-11-2012, 18:47
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I think there are haters for everything mate but it's down to personal preference. You and I are happy to go to 4G and not have to extend our contracts for a further 24 months when it does launch, this I see as good business sense. More so as I am getting exactly the same package with what will be faster than the pitiful speeds I get now for the same price, and you as you will soon have a femto meaning landline savings.

If I could get the 10-12Mb speeds that others on 3G are getting I would still change. I am paying the same price, for the same package, except on 4G. Even if I was only getting a slightly quicker service it would be worth while. Although I'm confident that I will be getting much quicker speeds
Yeah, I can't wait to try it out. I get all excited when a cell is upgraded. When my local cell is LTE'd I'll probably go off in my pants Hahahahahahahaha!
My friends always roll their eyes when I start talking cellular but the funny thing is they always come to ask my advice

I do think we should respect Wave's views. He likes O2 and that's fine. If I was on O2 I would be buggerd. My working area (the South Hams) has about 10% O2 3G coverage.
However if all I wanted was a handset for voice I would probably be on O2 or Vodafone simple as that. In fact an elderly customer of mine asked me the other day what his first ever mobile should be (he only wants I to make calls, I don't think he could even manage SMS). I recommended a cheap basic handset and told him to look at either O2 or Vodafone's PAYG plans. In fact I used Wave's advice and said that probably O2 would be better for good customer service.
On that note I have found EE's CS to be very very good even though they're obviously running around like headless chickens not knowing what the hell is going on half the time Haha.
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Old 13-11-2012, 18:56
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How do you not get above 3mbps. 3Mbps is the minimum I get almost everywhere.

I agree with people here, no point spending that much ATM. 3g is cheaper and gives better allowances and sort of similar speeds (good enough for a mobile)
Come visit Cambridge, on a bad day you'll see <1Mbs DL... no real pattern and I've got Speedtests to support that. I'm on T-Mobile, swapping to Orange signal makes my 3G next to useless...
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Old 13-11-2012, 23:57
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There is also the issue of being saddled with a device that does not support the 850/2600MHz LTE bands being introduced next year. Buy an LTE device now and you will be stuck with a choice of EE and 3 for the life of that product. Not a good proposition to take advantage of the competition that will deliver reduced costs next summer.
Im told the Samsung Galaxy S3 LTE and Note 2 LTE supports LTE Band 20 on 800MHz but the iPhone 5 does not and only supports LTE band 5 which is not compatible with the UK allocation.

Sure thre will be a whole load of phones with support for 2.6GHz next spring.
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Old 14-11-2012, 02:25
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You are totally right however these locations where you reach more than 3MBPS on 3G are few and far between. I am a HGV driver and I drive all around the country and I have only found one place so far where I reached above this.
Strange, i can get the same speeds in and around liverpool, what phone do you have? your phone modem is probably crappy.
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Old 14-11-2012, 14:02
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I find this hard to believe unless we are just very lucky down here. It's true that lots of times I'll only get 1.5 - 3meg but often I'll get 6-8 meg even from rural cells and of course there's my favourite HSPA+ cell in Totnes that I got 20.5 off the other day.
God, I've got a favourite cell, I am a sad boy
What handset do you have? I had an iPhone 3Gs which never really went above 5Mbps as it was a HSDPA 7.2 phone as is the iPhone 4.
Strange, i can get the same speeds in and around liverpool, what phone do you have? your phone modem is probably crappy.
I got a Galaxy s3. Told you its not the phone lol
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Old 14-11-2012, 17:54
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I got a Galaxy s3. Told you its not the phone lol
Lol, well, my stab at an explanation, with regards to T-Mobile anyway, is as follows; when you're using T-Mobile the slower speeds are probably being provided by an Orange mast.

Just for example, my Orange sim will provide <3Mbps when connected to an Orange mast, 6Mbps+ when using T-Mobile's masts... and that's with an SGS3. (If you want to know whether you're using Orange or T-Mobile signal, download Phono from Google Play to your Galaxy S3).
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