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Charlie IsTwo Faced
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lotty27
15-11-2012
Originally Posted by AdzPower:
“I love Charlie, I don't blame her for saying things in the telegraph rather than to Helen's face.
She doesn't want to cause a scene and ruin the camp atmosphere so early on.”

Exactly! She's letting off steam. How many of us come home from work and let rip with our partners about someone at work but you wouldn't say anything actually at work (unless it got unbearable) because you don't want to create a scene/atmosphere. She's using the bush telegraph to vent.
Stupid_Head
15-11-2012
I don't even think Charlie dislikes Helen, she is just irritated by the fact she has no food and Helen not attempting the trials, which is completely understandable.

If next week, Charlie is bitching about her to others, slagging her off in the hut etc when everyone will be up for trials then I will agree that she is being two faced and nasty, but for the time being I just see her as being pissed off that Helen is failing at everything without much concern for the others.
Crawley Cutie
15-11-2012
Originally Posted by christina83:
“Wow, can't stand that Charlie woman she's so mean. I guess she is wishing all the attention was on her.”



No, she is not mean - just irritated......who wouldn't be !

If she wanted all the attention herself, then she could take her clothes off, like Helen.......She doesn't !!
christina83
15-11-2012
Originally Posted by Crawley Cutie:
“No, she is not mean - just irritated......who wouldn't be !

If she wanted all the attention herself then she could take all her clothes off, like Helen.......She doesn't !!”

Because she hasn't the figure for it
trevor tiger
15-11-2012
Originally Posted by christina83:
“Because she hasn't the figure for it ”

In your opinion. I beg to differ.
Wulfster
15-11-2012
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“In your opinion. I beg to differ.”

Absolutely!
This was only a couple of years ago, and I don't think much has changed ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJdQV6A_KVM
barracuda91
15-11-2012
Originally Posted by lotty27:
“Exactly! She's letting off steam. How many of us come home from work and let rip with our partners about someone at work but you wouldn't say anything actually at work (unless it got unbearable) because you don't want to create a scene/atmosphere. She's using the bush telegraph to vent.”

Originally Posted by Stupid_Head:
“I don't even think Charlie dislikes Helen, she is just irritated by the fact she has no food and Helen not attempting the trials, which is completely understandable.

If next week, Charlie is bitching about her to others, slagging her off in the hut etc when everyone will be up for trials then I will agree that she is being two faced and nasty, but for the time being I just see her as being pissed off that Helen is failing at everything without much concern for the others.”

I completely agree with these. I think Charlie would come across as two-faced had she expressed her feelings to the other campmates, but as said, she doesn't want to create a bad atmosphere and I don't think she would want Helen to know from her or anyone else because it would upset Helen and she doesn't want to do that. She does like Helen and I think she wants to give her as much support as possible but just needs somewhere to let off some steam once in a while.
MACTOWIN
15-11-2012
Originally Posted by barracuda91:
“I completely agree with these. I think Charlie would come across as two-faced had she expressed her feelings to the other campmates, but as said, she doesn't want to create a bad atmosphere and I don't think she would want Helen to know from her or anyone else because it would upset Helen and she doesn't want to do that. She does like Helen and I think she wants to give her as much support as possible but just needs somewhere to let off some steam once in a while.”

How do you know she does not bitch to the rest of the camp I suspect you dont neither do I we can only comment on what we see and she has been two faced three times now and IMO that is why she is doing the task tomorrow.
Alexis07
15-11-2012
Originally Posted by christina83:
“Because she hasn't the figure for it ”

Or the face !

Can't believe how many people seem to think she's pretty .

I know Pugs are cute but come on people .
Stockingfiller
16-11-2012
It's a bit ironic if viewers are punishing Charlie for being 'nasty' about Helen...the one loads of viewers are enjoying seeing being 'upset' ! Protecting the one they're bullying ?
barracuda91
16-11-2012
Originally Posted by MACTOWIN:
“How do you know she does not bitch to the rest of the camp I suspect you dont neither do I we can only comment on what we see and she has been two faced three times now and IMO that is why she is doing the task tomorrow.”

Yes, we do comment on what we see and I don't see her being two-faced. I just suspect she hasn't said anything to the other campmates because I think there would've been some kind of inclination that had happened. I may be wrong but there hasn't been anything that has led me to believe Charlie has been venting about Helen to the others.
Stupid_Head
16-11-2012
Originally Posted by barracuda91:
“Yes, we do comment on what we see and I don't see her being two-faced. I just suspect she hasn't said anything to the other campmates because I think there would've been some kind of inclination that had happened. I may be wrong but there hasn't been anything that has led me to believe Charlie has been venting about Helen to the others.”

That would so be shown if it happened, there is no way a producer of a reality show wouldn't show bitching - they even exposed Anthony Cotton last year and he was their golden boy, so I doubt they'd have an issue with exposing one of the biggie EastEnders stars.
priscilla
16-11-2012
Originally Posted by Alexis07:
“Or the face !

Can't believe how many people seem to think she's pretty .

I know Pugs are cute but come on people .”

Why do you find it hard to believe people have different taste?
I think Charlie naturally gorgeous and so is Ashley.
Helen also pretty.
Sun Tzu.
16-11-2012
I think Charlie is starting to show herself up now. All she is doing is just being two faced in regards to Helen. People defending her saying she doesn't want to create an atmosphere, that is already happening anyway with Eric and Hugo and Nadine. It is going to come out sooner or later, you can't keep it in 24/7 in that environment.
squillion
16-11-2012
Charlie isn't jealous...she is torn between getting wound up like many of us by the pathetic behaviour of Helen and the guys pandering to her...and genuinely trying to be sympathetic to Helen's fears. Helen should not be in the jungle - she is an airhead and with those fears why is she even in there? Stupid girl should go home!
priscilla
16-11-2012
Eric only made comments in a jokey way in order not to create tension, the other comments his made about Hugo have been behind his back.
Nadine and Hugo are open about their dislike for each other
Charlie not saying anything nasty about Helen, she's only talking about her commitment in the trials and how much effort she puts in. She knows Helen sensitive if she tells her straight Helen will cry and probably doesnt want to upset her just before a trial.

The Hugo comments have been really personal and just bitching for no reason but just because they don't like the class he has been born into.
christina83
16-11-2012
Originally Posted by Alexis07:
“Or the face !

Can't believe how many people seem to think she's pretty .

I know Pugs are cute but come on people .”

Haha I know, I was going to say bulldog but felt so sorry to associate them with her
sutie
16-11-2012
Originally Posted by haphash:
“Jealousy of what? Charlie is a better actress and IMO better looking than Helen.

I don't see a problem between them (other than lack of food). Charlie has tried to be encouraging and supportive to Helen whilst knowing in her heart that it is likely Helen fill continue to fail the tasks.”



Jealous of the attention. I think that stands out a mile.
milmol
16-11-2012
Originally Posted by barracuda91:
“I completely agree with these. I think Charlie would come across as two-faced had she expressed her feelings to the other campmates, but as said, she doesn't want to create a bad atmosphere and I don't think she would want Helen to know from her or anyone else because it would upset Helen and she doesn't want to do that. She does like Helen and I think she wants to give her as much support as possible but just needs somewhere to let off some steam once in a while.”

Thanks for typing this, saved me a lot of typing Two faced to others, to me she is normal.
Originally Posted by MACTOWIN:
“How do you know she does not bitch to the rest of the camp I suspect you dont neither do I we can only comment on what we see and she has been two faced three times now and IMO that is why she is doing the task tomorrow.”

I agree thats why she was picked, which is fine by me - I'm looking forward to seeing her have a go!! But as posted above, the producers would 100% not have been able to resist broadcasting any bitching Charlie had done with her camp mates.

Opinions on Charlie can only be realistically & fairly given after tonight, when we see if she walks the walk herself
MACTOWIN
16-11-2012
Originally Posted by sutie:
“Jealous of the attention. I think that stands out a mile.”

Agree. And she is not even subtle about it imo.
ritch
16-11-2012
I dont think she is jealous or two faced and I'm not her biggest fan. To me she is the type that doesnt like the little girl lost attitude, Charlie is a tough one and is probably used to sticking up for herself to get where she is today. To be fair, at the beginning she did say she wont get on with people that have a diva attitude.

You got to also take into account that it must be different when you are in there, when a person just cant go through a few mins discomfort to feed a whole camp. she just teh type that doesnt sympathise because she would probably be of the mindset that she would go through whatever discomfort she had to.

guess we will find out on her trial, if Charlie fails miserably then she could look pretty bad tonight but something tells me she will go through hell lol. think she could make a few fans after next episode
jimdan
16-11-2012
Not sure if her comments were two faced but having now seen last nights show, they were quite bitchy.

Sounds like she wants some limelight.
MACTOWIN
16-11-2012
Originally Posted by jimdan:
“Not sure if her comments were two faced but having now seen last nights show, they were quite bitchy.

Sounds like she wants some limelight.”

Imo she sure wants the limelight.
mr muggles
16-11-2012
well, for all those that were complaining that Charlie is being two-faced (:yawn::yawn::sleep::sleep, there ya go! She was out with it & has told Rosie to her face. Ta-dah!

And remember guys, Charlie said in her opening ident that she thinks about food 24/7...! Theres no jealousy, just plain ole irritation!
Joe_Zel
16-11-2012
Originally Posted by christina83:
“Because she hasn't the figure for it ”

And you have the cheek to say Charlie's mean?
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