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Old 13-11-2012, 23:14
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Over the past couple of days, I've been following the polls on here re Rylan quite closely and he has definitely gained a much bigger following than previously.

The question is, the bookies have him as odds on favourite to go this weekend and I'm considering laying him, no pun intended. (Not that I could anyway, wrong sex and probably too old, lol. Anyway, I digress......)

Yeah, the question. It's been so long since I've been on DS, I used to frequent the BB forums years ago under a different name and the spoilers, voting etc. always seemed pretty spot on. But I don't know about the X Factor forum. Is public opinion pretty much the same as the DS forum or are we just a bunch of lunatics?
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Old 13-11-2012, 23:16
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Lunatics.
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Old 13-11-2012, 23:17
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Over the past couple of days, I've been following the polls on here re Rylan quite closely and he has definitely gained a much bigger following than previously.

The question is, the bookies have him as odds on favourite to go this weekend and I'm considering laying him, no pun intended. (Not that I could anyway, wrong sex and probably too old, lol. Anyway, I digress......)

Yeah, the question. It's been so long since I've been on DS, I used to frequent the BB forums years ago under a different name and the spoilers, voting etc. always seemed pretty spot on. But I don't know about the X Factor forum. Is public opinion pretty much the same as the DS forum or are we just a bunch of lunatics?
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Old 13-11-2012, 23:24
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I don't think many DS people are phone voting for Rylan though. I think most of our favourites have gone so we've gone to supporting underdog/fun Rylan.
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Old 13-11-2012, 23:25
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In that case, I'll keep my money in my pocket, ta very much.
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Old 13-11-2012, 23:26
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DS opinion means very little. Gary is generally disliked on here, but he's the favourite amongst the general public.
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Old 13-11-2012, 23:34
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We are only a small number of people when compared to X factor viewers in general, so I don't think DS views are a good gauge for overall opinion. Also some people might say that because we are all the type of people who like to discuss things on internet forums, we are not a typical average cross-section of the general public!
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Old 13-11-2012, 23:43
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[quote=Midnight Moggy;62322052]We are only a small number of people when compared to X factor viewers in general, so I don't think DS views are a good gauge for overall opinion. Also some people might say that because we are all the type of people who like to discuss things on internet forums, we are not a typical average cross-section of the general public![/QUOTE]

What is the cross section of the x factor voters ???
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Old 13-11-2012, 23:43
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everybodys opinion means something. our ££££ are as welcome as anyone elses.
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Old 13-11-2012, 23:50
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if it was upto us on here

chris would have gone week 1 for sure
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Old 14-11-2012, 00:01
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Nah I doubt it. I voted Rylan in that poll for example, but there's no way I'll be spending any amount of money to keep him on the show. Not saying I'm representative of DS as a whole, but it's very easy to highlight an option and click vote.
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Old 14-11-2012, 00:01
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Oxygenjj, I mean we might be more geeky, analytical or cynical than the general viewers as a whole.
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Old 14-11-2012, 00:18
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Oxygenjj, I mean we might be more geeky, analytical or cynical than the general viewers as a whole.

wow don't think i fit the mould lol
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Old 14-11-2012, 00:28
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Opinion on here is always way off kilter.
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Old 14-11-2012, 00:47
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Agree he's gaining support, however if you're thinking of doing this:

a) wait until the weekend, the casual weekend idiot punters will pile into Rylan to go as they'll consider it a "certainty", so you'll get better odds.
b) lay him to be bottom 2 rather than eliminated, bigger reward if your opinion is correct (but no potential fluke win should he be saved by judges)

Or there's another way of playing it if you, like me, think that it's only Rylan, Ella and Union J who are in trouble - you can back the specific combination of Ella and Union J to be the bottom 2 at 14/1 on Paddypower. I'd consider that the best bet for a casual punter.

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Old 14-11-2012, 00:50
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Agree he's gaining support, however if you're thinking of doing this:

a) wait until the weekend, the casual weekend idiot punters will pile into Rylan to go as they'll consider it a "certainty", so you'll get better odds.
b) lay him to be bottom 2 rather than eliminated, bigger reward if your opinion is correct (but no potential fluke win should he be saved by judges)

Or there's another way of playing it if you, like me, think that it's only Rylan, Ella and Union J who are in trouble - you can back the specific combination of Ella and Union J to be the bottom 2 at 14/1 on Paddypower. I'd consider that the best bet for a casual punter.



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ella bottom 2 , it would want 66 / 1
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Old 14-11-2012, 00:52
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ella bottom 2 , it would want 66 / 1
Chris topping the vote, Jahmene close behind him, and James seemingly exceedingly popular, if either Union J or Rylan scrape their way to safety then it's only Ella left to fall into the bottom 2
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Old 14-11-2012, 00:55
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Chris topping the vote, Jahmene close behind him, and James seemingly exceedingly popular, if either Union J or Rylan scrape their way to safety then it's only Ella left to fall into the bottom 2
So tell me why , if baloney topping the vote week in week out
why is that not reflected in the betting markets ,

why are his betting odds to win so high ????
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Old 14-11-2012, 00:58
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No. Not in the voting scheme of things. Actually not in any scheme of thing if anyone is that bothered. Ds opinion really only matter to the people posting in discussion so if your not a forum poster it is just a floating carrier bag of life
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Old 14-11-2012, 00:59
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Regarding likes and dislikes, yes, DS is generally out of sync with the general public. Regarding actual (honest) voting predictions, DS is closer, but I wouldn't say "spot on". I think it's harder to predict X-Factor than BB because the contestants on BB are more transparent simply because of the nature of the show.

EDIT: Lol, I forgot, DS is considered a wretched hive of scum and villainy by X-Factor anyways.
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Old 14-11-2012, 00:59
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So tell me why , if baloney topping the vote week in week out
why is that not reflected in the betting markets ,

why are his betting odds to win so high ????
Mixture of people not knowing/believing the Daily Star leak, the inability of people to quickly accept a recent 200/1 shot as a serious contender, and the fact that he's unlikely to win as he's not gaining broad based support - a regional/nan vote is all well and good at this stage of the competition, but it's unlikely to produce the millions of votes needed to win the final
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Old 14-11-2012, 01:02
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Mixture of people not knowing/believing the Daily Star leak, the inability of people to quickly accept a recent 200/1 shot as a serious contender, and the fact that he's unlikely to win as he's not gaining broad based support - a regional/nan vote is all well and good at this stage of the competition, but it's unlikely to produce the millions of votes needed to win the final
thanks, thats a good insight

you sound like a booky

do you believe the daily star leak ?
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Old 14-11-2012, 01:05
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thanks, thats a good insight

you sound like a booky

do you believe the daily star leak ?
Np X Factor betting makes up a big proportion of my income

I believe the daily star leak yes, they have a fantastic track record. It was a brave call claiming Chris was topping the votes when they first said it a few weeks back, if they'd been wrong then he surely would have been bottom 2 by now
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Old 14-11-2012, 01:07
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and the sympathy vote which is growing
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Old 14-11-2012, 01:08
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who's likely to win ??
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