Originally Posted by henrywilliams58:
“But don't people learn grammar or care about it anymore? Is English grammar, which I would have thought much easier to learn than the tango, now officially irrelevant - in Britain.
Hey this is a personality show so somebody who does not speak English properly either does that for customer effect or because they themselves could not be bothered to learn and use English grammar correctly.
Many of the foreign dancers speak better English than the British celebs. Isn't that shocking?
Just sayin'”
“But don't people learn grammar or care about it anymore? Is English grammar, which I would have thought much easier to learn than the tango, now officially irrelevant - in Britain.
Hey this is a personality show so somebody who does not speak English properly either does that for customer effect or because they themselves could not be bothered to learn and use English grammar correctly.
Many of the foreign dancers speak better English than the British celebs. Isn't that shocking?
Just sayin'”
No, they don't. Poor spelling and grammar is almost as much of a standard these days as people being bad at maths - it's practically a badge of honour not to be able to spell or add up correctly

Spoken English, however, is another matter entirely.There is a third reason for the accent - being in showbiz. An accent - particularly a pronounced regional accent - is much in demand across the media as it's seen as more 'representative' of the UK demographic it serves than a generic 'good' English accent. Denise and Tess are two examples of women who've worked their accents practically in the ground in the pursuit of being memorable on telly.
Obviously in other countries people are not taught English with a regional accent and so they speak more 'normal' English than those brought up with it. But that's the same with any non-native speaker. The plethora of native French and Spanish accents, dialect words etc. bears little relation to what I for one learned at school.
I love it, for example, when you hear someone non-English who has learned their English in a region with a strong regional accent speaking, like foreign footballers. I once interviewed a Polish girl who had come to Peterlee for the last few years of her education. A Geordie Pole is an experience not to be missed. Lovely girl too

I would argue against calling any one of these styles of speaking English 'correct', as I firmly believe that our willingness to allow English to change and mutate has made it the great language it is. Our willingness to include and celebrate all of these accents in our media is a good thing and one to be cherished, not denigrated for not being within the bounds of 'correct'.
*gets off soapbox*




I'm a Louis supporter because I like him and I think he's turning out to be a really good dancer but mainly because he's partnered with my favourite pro Flavia - but I try not to foist my favouritism on anyone else - admitedly I haven't read every post on this forum but so far I haven't seen any aggressive Louis supporters on this forum.
When I saw the title I thought it meant that someone had done some stats crunching and discovered that no matter what this irritating woman does, she will never be able to win.