It is up to a point....first Saturday in December, the point being.

Denise shouldn't win, by the way.

I don't really have anything personal against Denise, but i don't want het to win.

Reasons:

1. She is experienced that is obvious it comes a lot easier to her than the others. I personally don't believe you can dance at that standard which some including Craig has called professional in a couple of months. She has been dancing at a high standard since week 1 (except the cha cha cha maybe but even that wasn't that bad).

2. I can't stand James he is arrogant and cocky and he hasn't the goods to back it up as far as i am concerned, he ain't that good. Some people will feel it shouldn't matter about the pro but it does for me.

3. The continual denial of her abilities it's annoying!! ITT on tuesday they were saying how difficult the charleston is, training was ok not good blah blah. Then wednesday ITT Ian training footage they are brilliant perfectly in sync and Ian says this will be another good one.

I can't speak for the gerneral public this is just my opinion i will not be voting for her. As to the dancer/personality arguement it's a bit of both for me, but i do think that people like to see progression and improvement, which is something Denise can't do because she is already good and has been really from the beginning and people expect her to top the board each week.

Exactly !! Thats right and is why i am commenting on this forum, I cannot understand why there is so much hat-mail aimed at her she is fantastic!

That is my point!!

I am so glad you see my point of view (of course she should win)!

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Whats wrong with shooting from the hip,its funny how everyone seems to back-tracking on their feelings for Denise all of a sudden (dont think I would have started this thread if there had been a love-in for her........

But why did you need to start another thread when there is already one very similar?

I have not backtracked on my feelings for Denise. I have never been able to abide the woman and I still can't.

denise can will and possibly will win and thats fine by me. i personally think dani is a better dancer, and louis has the potential to be superb, but for me its nice to have quite a few good dancers to watch rather than an overdose of no hopers with an obvious front runner or two.

I dont think Denise will win.

I think she will definitely be shoehorned into the final by the judges though, but I really dont think she is popular enough to win.

I personally find her vile and loathsome. And completely fake. And James is probably my least favourite of all the pros (Vincent a close second). I also genuinely think James has done nothing to endear himself to the audience and that will have a small bearing on Denise's success too.

a ploy to irritate the forum prefects i suspect.

you must be one of these I assume!

How could it? There's no such thing - everyone still in the competition has a chance of winning as there's no cumulative of judges scores and public vote in the final, and no mathematical impossibility like the Tom/Rachel/Lisa SF is ever certain.

also, i forgot to mention that very irritating westlife moaner is looking worryingly improved lately, so he too has a chance of beating denise to the title. unfortunately.

yes.

i am in charge.



you may now carry on.

Ah good! are you sitting comfortably? then I will begin ..... not just yet though)!

What is the problem with Nicky winning? He is really improving and started with a lot less dance experience than Denise!:

I am sure she's a very nice person and she is obviously a very good dancer.

I don't want her to win though because she was streets ahead of everybody else from Day 1 due to her past experience. It just doesn't seem fair.

You make a good point.

In what way is she 'vile and loathsome'?

I just think people dont like the ladette side of Denise, but at least she has some spirit (unlike the silly big girl attitude radiating from Victoria which accompanys her every interview I have witnessed) I dont hate her though and would not use the words above to describe her which illustrates, yet again, the hatred and venom ai med at Denise! Isuppose I knew what we were getting from Denise whereas with Victoria I am totally shocked and underwhelmed at her personality and attitude to competition in view of her day job !

Don't you? My Mum, Aunt and Sister can't stand her, I'm pretty sure I could get you a list if need be

With Denise, it's a tough one, I don't think it's right to have rubbish dancers in the final and as she's one of the best then really she should be there. The previous experience though is grating, she's never really looked like a learner and all the rest have. Louis is the nearest in competence and he hasn't had any dance training so I appreciate him more, he hasn't been on my TV for years acting like a t*t either.

And then there's James. I can't stand him and he does his best every year to make sure that I never waver on this point. I don't find his choreography exciting either.

Whatever the public thinks, Denise will get to the final. I wouldn't want to see her win though.

Really?

I have to agree with Jan, hes one of the worst left and I see very little improvement in him apart from his last dance, all his previous dances were lacking I thought

Check out his jive training on ITT tonight.

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