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Old 15-11-2012, 17:00
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This character has real longevity with the soap. What I have loved is that they have tried to build up her character gradually, showing use different sides to her. I love the introduction of her new family members, she owns the scene when she is in it, like a real soap matriarch should. She isn't a matriarch yet but she I believe will eventually get there. This story about her past is really gripping, im really enjoying it. I cannot wait to see the scenes between her and her daughter.. Anyone else agree.
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Old 15-11-2012, 17:11
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I agree, I love Cora and I'm glad she's now being given material that shows off how great of an actress she is
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Old 15-11-2012, 17:23
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She's brilliant the best new character in quite some time.
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Old 15-11-2012, 17:27
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She's okay I suppose.
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Old 15-11-2012, 18:28
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Your thread title has been written as a statement of opinion expressed as fact!

Perhaps a question mark at the end of it would have been more apposite - although I am clearly in the minority so far. I've disliked the character since the day she was introduced. My heart sank when I read she was staying after her inaugural introduction.

What is all this 'matriarch' rubbish? I wouldn't want her as any kind of matriarch in my family, thank you - if she was grandmother to my daughters (who are 14 and 18) she wouldn't be allowed anywhere near them until she'd cleaned up her act in every respect! Cora, like so many in EE, seem to think that respect from one's family is something you have by right, whereas I'm afraid it's something that has to be earned, regardless of blood ties. Cora does nothing to command my respect, that's for sure, and yet both the character ('fans' of the character) seem to think that respect is due to her simply by being who she is.

Maybe it's me who is old-fashioned with high expectations, but if that is wrong then so be it - but I have always found that if you pander to the lowest common denominators in life then that is exactly what you will get in return. That applies to everything from manners and courtesy to behaviour and communication. I'm a teacher (I've taught 6 year olds right up to adult offenders - believe me, I've seen it all!) but without exception all my students (surprisingly, especially the offenders) have thrived on the challenge of 'living up to' the highest expectations each one is capable of reaching; in fact, for many it was the first time anyone had expected anything except the worst from them and they couldn't understand why it had taken so long and why they hadn't experienced it before!

Expecting nothing leads to getting nothing back. Why are we so afraid of setting higher expectations these days? It's at the root of a lot of what is wrong today, and EE idolising characters such as Cora (although she's by no means alone, sadly) is exacerbating that.

Oh well, bring on the insults!
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Old 15-11-2012, 18:31
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I luv Cora Ann is brilliant, luv her with Paddy, her one-liners, the chemitry she has with Tanya, really hope she stays in EE for a long time.
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Old 15-11-2012, 19:07
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Your thread title has been written as a statement of opinion expressed as fact!

Perhaps a question mark at the end of it would have been more apposite - although I am clearly in the minority so far. I've disliked the character since the day she was introduced. My heart sank when I read she was staying after her inaugural introduction.

What is all this 'matriarch' rubbish? I wouldn't want her as any kind of matriarch in my family, thank you - if she was grandmother to my daughters (who are 14 and 18) she wouldn't be allowed anywhere near them until she'd cleaned up her act in every respect! Cora, like so many in EE, seem to think that respect from one's family is something you have by right, whereas I'm afraid it's something that has to be earned, regardless of blood ties. Cora does nothing to command my respect, that's for sure, and yet both the character ('fans' of the character) seem to think that respect is due to her simply by being who she is.

Maybe it's me who is old-fashioned with high expectations, but if that is wrong then so be it - but I have always found that if you pander to the lowest common denominators in life then that is exactly what you will get in return. That applies to everything from manners and courtesy to behaviour and communication. I'm a teacher (I've taught 6 year olds right up to adult offenders - believe me, I've seen it all!) but without exception all my students (surprisingly, especially the offenders) have thrived on the challenge of 'living up to' the highest expectations each one is capable of reaching; in fact, for many it was the first time anyone had expected anything except the worst from them and they couldn't understand why it had taken so long and why they hadn't experienced it before!

Expecting nothing leads to getting nothing back. Why are we so afraid of setting higher expectations these days? It's at the root of a lot of what is wrong today, and EE idolising characters such as Cora (although she's by no means alone, sadly) is exacerbating that.

Oh well, bring on the insults!
You won't get any insults from me, I completely agree with you.

I think Ann Mitchell is right for Eastenders, Cora is not. The character is very badly written, she changes personality with the wind.
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Old 15-11-2012, 19:14
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Cora is great. As is Ann Mitchell.
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Old 15-11-2012, 20:45
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You won't get any insults from me, I completely agree with you.

W think Ann Mitchell is right for Eastenders, Cora is not. The character is very badly written, she changes personality with the wind.
One of many reasons our household switched off. Agree with everything you and the other person said.

How can you have a matriarch that is supposed to be a role model and command respect if they smoke and drink their breakfast?

How can you take them seriously when they barely speak above a whisper and with one puff look like they would full over and their make-up is done like a clown. Very much a one trick pony who lacks any depth or warmth. At best she gives out the odd funny one line - which would be funny even if Tyler Moon said it! She is a cartoonish old hag. Ann Mitchell is a good actress but she deserved better than this cobbled together character.
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Old 15-11-2012, 21:09
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One of many reasons our household switched off. Agree with everything you and the other person said.

How can you have a matriarch that is supposed to be a role model and command respect if they smoke and drink their breakfast?

How can you take them seriously when they barely speak above a whisper and with one puff look like they would full over and their make-up is done like a clown. Very much a one trick pony who lacks any depth or warmth. At best she gives out the odd funny one line - which would be funny even if Tyler Moon said it! She is a cartoonish old hag. Ann Mitchell is a good actress but she deserved better than this cobbled together character.
The make up department have a lot to answer for in Easties, they need to make Cora look less like a drag queen, Anne looks quite nice with her hair down, it suits her.
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Old 15-11-2012, 21:12
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Great character and great actress.
Although I'm sure the actress has been in Eastender's before - didn't she play the doolally ex-wife of Roy Evans?
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Old 15-11-2012, 21:16
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Your thread title has been written as a statement of opinion expressed as fact!

Perhaps a question mark at the end of it would have been more apposite - although I am clearly in the minority so far. I've disliked the character since the day she was introduced. My heart sank when I read she was staying after her inaugural introduction.

What is all this 'matriarch' rubbish? I wouldn't want her as any kind of matriarch in my family, thank you - if she was grandmother to my daughters (who are 14 and 18) she wouldn't be allowed anywhere near them until she'd cleaned up her act in every respect! Cora, like so many in EE, seem to think that respect from one's family is something you have by right, whereas I'm afraid it's something that has to be earned, regardless of blood ties. Cora does nothing to command my respect, that's for sure, and yet both the character ('fans' of the character) seem to think that respect is due to her simply by being who she is.

Maybe it's me who is old-fashioned with high expectations, but if that is wrong then so be it - but I have always found that if you pander to the lowest common denominators in life then that is exactly what you will get in return. That applies to everything from manners and courtesy to behaviour and communication. I'm a teacher (I've taught 6 year olds right up to adult offenders - believe me, I've seen it all!) but without exception all my students (surprisingly, especially the offenders) have thrived on the challenge of 'living up to' the highest expectations each one is capable of reaching; in fact, for many it was the first time anyone had expected anything except the worst from them and they couldn't understand why it had taken so long and why they hadn't experienced it before!

Expecting nothing leads to getting nothing back. Why are we so afraid of setting higher expectations these days? It's at the root of a lot of what is wrong today, and EE idolising characters such as Cora (although she's by no means alone, sadly) is exacerbating that.

Oh well, bring on the insults!
You won't get any insults from me, I completely agree with you.

I think Ann Mitchell is right for Eastenders, Cora is not. The character is very badly written, she changes personality with the wind.
One of many reasons our household switched off. Agree with everything you and the other person said.

How can you have a matriarch that is supposed to be a role model and command respect if they smoke and drink their breakfast?

How can you take them seriously when they barely speak above a whisper and with one puff look like they would full over and their make-up is done like a clown. Very much a one trick pony who lacks any depth or warmth. At best she gives out the odd funny one line - which would be funny even if Tyler Moon said it! She is a cartoonish old hag. Ann Mitchell is a good actress but she deserved better than this cobbled together character.
These.
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Old 15-11-2012, 21:17
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Great character and great actress.
Although I'm sure the actress has been in Eastender's before - didn't she play the doolally ex-wife of Roy Evans?
She was. Roy had an affair with her. Jane I think her name was.
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Old 15-11-2012, 21:37
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Caught EE tonight, was very good throughout. Felt like a different show.

Cora is amazing! So glad to see them using more of the cast better tonight.
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Old 15-11-2012, 21:46
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Old 15-11-2012, 21:46
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Your thread title has been written as a statement of opinion expressed as fact!

Perhaps a question mark at the end of it would have been more apposite - although I am clearly in the minority so far. I've disliked the character since the day she was introduced. My heart sank when I read she was staying after her inaugural introduction.

What is all this 'matriarch' rubbish? I wouldn't want her as any kind of matriarch in my family, thank you - if she was grandmother to my daughters (who are 14 and 18) she wouldn't be allowed anywhere near them until she'd cleaned up her act in every respect! Cora, like so many in EE, seem to think that respect from one's family is something you have by right, whereas I'm afraid it's something that has to be earned, regardless of blood ties. Cora does nothing to command my respect, that's for sure, and yet both the character ('fans' of the character) seem to think that respect is due to her simply by being who she is.

Maybe it's me who is old-fashioned with high expectations, but if that is wrong then so be it - but I have always found that if you pander to the lowest common denominators in life then that is exactly what you will get in return. That applies to everything from manners and courtesy to behaviour and communication. I'm a teacher (I've taught 6 year olds right up to adult offenders - believe me, I've seen it all!) but without exception all my students (surprisingly, especially the offenders) have thrived on the challenge of 'living up to' the highest expectations each one is capable of reaching; in fact, for many it was the first time anyone had expected anything except the worst from them and they couldn't understand why it had taken so long and why they hadn't experienced it before!

Expecting nothing leads to getting nothing back. Why are we so afraid of setting higher expectations these days? It's at the root of a lot of what is wrong today, and EE idolising characters such as Cora (although she's by no means alone, sadly) is exacerbating that.

Oh well, bring on the insults!
You get around of applause from me! I cant stand Cora and her monotone acting!
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Old 15-11-2012, 21:49
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I'm not really likeing this storyline tbh, I loved Cora in her first few months but she has not turned out to be as firece as I hoped she would be.
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Old 15-11-2012, 21:56
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Shes on the route to becoming a great matriarch.
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Old 15-11-2012, 21:57
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Wendy Richard is the only EastEnders matriarch for me.
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Old 15-11-2012, 22:32
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She's brilliant the best new character in quite some time.
Yes I agree. I like Cora.
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Old 16-11-2012, 10:21
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Something I don't understand is Cora knowing the surname of her daughter, I thought when babies are given up for adoption, the birth mother is not allowed to know their new name or where they are. Apparently, next week Tanya goes looking and finds this woman, not as easy as that, surely?
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Old 18-11-2012, 10:26
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Cora is great - the best new addition to EastEnders in a long time..
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Old 18-11-2012, 11:23
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I don't see the fuss about her to be honest. Infact, I find my mind wandering when she's on. She bores me.
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Old 18-11-2012, 11:39
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I find her to be ok very rarely... Most of the time she is just a judge mental and hypocritical woman. She always moans at people, especially Tanya, yet Cora herself has awful behavior. To be honest she isn't a responsible and knowledgeable person like people think, she just likes to have a go at people and be a cow. Ann Mitchell is great but Cora is just an annoying old woman.
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Old 18-11-2012, 13:52
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I don't class her as a Matriach as they lead their family. The only thing Cora leads her family too is the bar. If anything Tanya is the matriach of the cross family, she's the one who is bossy and tells them what to do.

I don't think Cora leads a good example to her children or grandchildren, Rainie thinks she's better off without her and that Cora is the reason she's a druggie. A true matriach like Pat would want to help Rainie, Cora chucked a bridesmaid dress in the bin and then got pissed.

Maybe I'd like her more if it wasn't for the fact Cora is very similar to Shirley so it feels like we don't need her.

I wish they had thought more on the characterisation of Cora, I just don't think they put much thought into her at all.
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