Vodafone and O2 share

reclusive46 · 15-11-2012, 19:05

Does anyone know when O2 and Vodafone are actually going to start sharing their networks?

Kenny Maclean · 15-11-2012, 20:06

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Does anyone know when O2 and Vodafone are actually going to start sharing their networks?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/10/01/o2_voda/

No firm dates though sadly.

wavejockglw · 15-11-2012, 20:22

They will be sharing transmission sites - not networks.

They will manage each others sites on an East/West division of the UK and jointly install and manage new 4G facilities but they will not be combining networks.

There is no combination of networks, nor is there any with 3/EE who also share. They have masts that provide access to each others frequency ranges but data, calls and SMS are routed separately to each individual network from the site.

That said, both companies should have similar coverage. Vodafone/O2 sharing outwith 4G data is not expected to be completed before 2016.

konebyvax · 13-01-2013, 17:20

Have they actually started doing this now? Reason i ask is I'm on talkmobile (use Vodafone) and their mobile internet has always been absolutely shocking at home (use wifi so no biggie). Speeds of 250kbps not unusual up until the last few days - now I'm getting speeds of anything up to 6mb and nothing less than 4mb! On the Voddy coverage checker the variable speed prediction hasn't changed and it also states no plans to upgrade?

Everything Goes · 13-01-2013, 23:02

I don't think there will be anything started till the end on 2013 at earliest.

beecart · 13-01-2013, 23:13

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Originally Posted by Everything Goes

I don't think there will be anything started till the end on 2013 at earliest.

It's already started.

wavejockglw · 13-01-2013, 23:18

It has started and both O2 and Vodafone have a continuous network improvement program so that might explain the improved user experience.

Jwhiterz · 13-01-2013, 23:19

I do not understand what they are actually sharing? is it the masts? And back hall?

And also who pays for what considering they are managing the country right down the middle. Do they still pay their own parts or does it come out of a central fund?

wavejockglw · 13-01-2013, 23:24

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Originally Posted by Jwhiterz

I do not understand what they are actually sharing? is it the masts? And back hall?

And also who pays for what considering they are managing the country right down the middle. Do they still pay their own parts or does it come out of a central fund?

They are sharing transmission sites. Not their core networks as Ofocm do not allow licence holders to do that.

O2 will have responsibility for transmission sites for half of the UK and Vodafone will look after the other half. Each operator will have their own frequency range and connect from sites using their own networks.

Everything Goes · 13-01-2013, 23:24

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Originally Posted by wavejockglw

It has started and both O2 and Vodafone have a continuous network improvement program so that might explain the improved user experience.

PMSL

Wavejock you really crack me up

(PS That is banter)

Everything Goes · 13-01-2013, 23:25

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wavejockglw · 13-01-2013, 23:27

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Originally Posted by Everything Goes

PMSL

The joke is on anyone who thinks any of the operators stand still.

All of them are continually trying to improve services to maintain and attract customers. Anyone who thinks otherwise is totally misguided.

Everything Goes · 13-01-2013, 23:31

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Originally Posted by wavejockglw

The joke is on anyone who thinks any of the operators stand still.

All of them are continually trying to improve services to maintain and attract customers. Anyone who thinks otherwise is totally misguided.

Some more than others......

Hugh_ · 13-01-2013, 23:31

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Originally Posted by wavejockglw

The joke is on anyone who thinks any of the operators stand still.

All of them are continually trying to improve services to maintain and attract customers. Anyone who thinks otherwise is totally misguided.

To be fair 02 is appalling, I had 02 for my mobile service provider for 6 months until they admitted they were crap and allowed me to get out of the contract. I'm currently with 3 and they're unbeatable for service and price.

wavejockglw · 13-01-2013, 23:32

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Originally Posted by Everything Goes

Some more than others......

Indeed and that seems to be confirmed by the customer satisfaction results that Ofcom and others publish.

wavejockglw · 13-01-2013, 23:35

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Originally Posted by Hugh_

To be fair 02 is appalling, I had 02 for my mobile service provider for 6 months until they admitted they were crap and allowed me to get out of the contract. I'm currently with 3 and they're unbeatable for service and price.

And where I live I can't make a voice call on 3 without it dropping after a short while.....

The UK is a big place and it's not the same everywhere. You have to seek advice from others when selecting a mobile service where you live to be confident about it's coverage etc.

A bargain is not a bargain if you can't use it and 3 are by no means the cheapest option nowadays.

Everything Goes · 13-01-2013, 23:36

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Originally Posted by wavejockglw

Indeed and that seems to be confirmed by the customer satisfaction results that Ofcom and others publish.

O2's customer service is great.

O2's 3G coverage is appalling.

Two different things.

wavejockglw · 13-01-2013, 23:38

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Originally Posted by Everything Goes

O2's customer service is great.

O2's 3G coverage is appalling.

To different things.

O2's customers don't seem to be troubled, they are gaining market share!

To is not proper English, it's 'two' actually.... when you mean the number.

Hugh_ · 13-01-2013, 23:39

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Originally Posted by wavejockglw

And where I live I can't make a voice call on 3 without it dropping after a short while.....

The UK is a big place and it's not the same everywhere. You have to seek advice from others when selecting a mobile service where you live to be confident about it's coverage etc.

A bargain is not a bargain if you can't use it and 3 are by no means the cheapest option nowadays.

Its a bargain for me, amazing speeds, unlimited uncapped downloads/tethering.

wavejockglw · 13-01-2013, 23:40

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Originally Posted by Hugh_

Its a bargain for me, amazing speeds, unlimited uncapped downloads/tethering.

Great... the 3 public relations person maybe!

Useless for me who can't maintain a voice call though in my part of the country.

Anyway what has 3 got to do with the Vodafone and O2 sharing agreement?

beecart · 13-01-2013, 23:43

Lets get Back on topic please

Everything Goes · 13-01-2013, 23:43

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Originally Posted by wavejockglw

O2's customers don't seem to be troubled, they are gaining market share!

To is not proper English, it's 'two' actually.... when you mean the number.

O2 are in big trouble. See other threads on this subject....

Thanks for pointing out the typo. I aim to have my posts typo free but occasionally I make a mistake since I missed out the letter "w" which I have now fixed teacher

Jwhiterz · 13-01-2013, 23:49

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Originally Posted by wavejockglw

They are sharing transmission sites. Not their core networks as Ofocm do not allow licence holders to do that.

O2 will have responsibility for transmission sites for half of the UK and Vodafone will look after the other half. Each operator will have their own frequency range and connect from sites using their own networks.

So basically its similar to MBNL with three and EE?

wavejockglw · 13-01-2013, 23:52

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Originally Posted by beecart

Lets get Back on topic please

Indeed..... the topic is actually about the O2/Vodafone network consolidation.

News about that would be of interest.

beecart · 13-01-2013, 23:54

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Originally Posted by Jwhiterz

So basically its similar to MBNL with three and EE?

Yeah but both operators will have own back haul and transmission equipment.

15-11-2012, 19:05	#1
reclusive46 Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Norwich Posts: 570	Vodafone and O2 share Does anyone know when O2 and Vodafone are actually going to start sharing their networks?

15-11-2012, 20:06	#2
Kenny Maclean Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: London Posts: 1,242	Quote: Originally Posted by reclusive46 Does anyone know when O2 and Vodafone are actually going to start sharing their networks? http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/10/01/o2_voda/ No firm dates though sadly.

15-11-2012, 20:22	#3
wavejockglw Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Glasgow Posts: 10,276	They will be sharing transmission sites - not networks. They will manage each others sites on an East/West division of the UK and jointly install and manage new 4G facilities but they will not be combining networks. There is no combination of networks, nor is there any with 3/EE who also share. They have masts that provide access to each others frequency ranges but data, calls and SMS are routed separately to each individual network from the site. That said, both companies should have similar coverage. Vodafone/O2 sharing outwith 4G data is not expected to be completed before 2016.

13-01-2013, 17:20	#4
konebyvax Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Ignoringtrollsville Posts: 7,875	Have they actually started doing this now? Reason i ask is I'm on talkmobile (use Vodafone) and their mobile internet has always been absolutely shocking at home (use wifi so no biggie). Speeds of 250kbps not unusual up until the last few days - now I'm getting speeds of anything up to 6mb and nothing less than 4mb! On the Voddy coverage checker the variable speed prediction hasn't changed and it also states no plans to upgrade?

13-01-2013, 23:02	#5
Everything Goes Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In the future.... Posts: 11,259	I don't think there will be anything started till the end on 2013 at earliest.

13-01-2013, 23:13	#6
beecart Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 383	Quote: Originally Posted by Everything Goes I don't think there will be anything started till the end on 2013 at earliest. It's already started.

13-01-2013, 23:18	#7
wavejockglw Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Glasgow Posts: 10,276	It has started and both O2 and Vodafone have a continuous network improvement program so that might explain the improved user experience.

13-01-2013, 23:19	#8
Jwhiterz Forum Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: South Wales (Brecon Beacons) Posts: 490	I do not understand what they are actually sharing? is it the masts? And back hall? And also who pays for what considering they are managing the country right down the middle. Do they still pay their own parts or does it come out of a central fund?

13-01-2013, 23:24	#9
wavejockglw Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Glasgow Posts: 10,276	Quote: Originally Posted by Jwhiterz I do not understand what they are actually sharing? is it the masts? And back hall? And also who pays for what considering they are managing the country right down the middle. Do they still pay their own parts or does it come out of a central fund? They are sharing transmission sites. Not their core networks as Ofocm do not allow licence holders to do that. O2 will have responsibility for transmission sites for half of the UK and Vodafone will look after the other half. Each operator will have their own frequency range and connect from sites using their own networks.

13-01-2013, 23:24	#10
Everything Goes Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In the future.... Posts: 11,259	Quote: Originally Posted by wavejockglw It has started and both O2 and Vodafone have a continuous network improvement program so that might explain the improved user experience. PMSL Wavejock you really crack me up (PS That is banter)

13-01-2013, 23:25	#11
Everything Goes Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In the future.... Posts: 11,259	Invisible post...

13-01-2013, 23:27	#12
wavejockglw Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Glasgow Posts: 10,276	Quote: Originally Posted by Everything Goes PMSL The joke is on anyone who thinks any of the operators stand still. All of them are continually trying to improve services to maintain and attract customers. Anyone who thinks otherwise is totally misguided.

13-01-2013, 23:31	#13
Everything Goes Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In the future.... Posts: 11,259	Quote: Originally Posted by wavejockglw The joke is on anyone who thinks any of the operators stand still. All of them are continually trying to improve services to maintain and attract customers. Anyone who thinks otherwise is totally misguided. Some more than others......

13-01-2013, 23:31	#14
Hugh_ Inactive Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 906	Quote: Originally Posted by wavejockglw The joke is on anyone who thinks any of the operators stand still. All of them are continually trying to improve services to maintain and attract customers. Anyone who thinks otherwise is totally misguided. To be fair 02 is appalling, I had 02 for my mobile service provider for 6 months until they admitted they were crap and allowed me to get out of the contract. I'm currently with 3 and they're unbeatable for service and price.

13-01-2013, 23:32	#15
wavejockglw Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Glasgow Posts: 10,276	Quote: Originally Posted by Everything Goes Some more than others...... Indeed and that seems to be confirmed by the customer satisfaction results that Ofcom and others publish.

13-01-2013, 23:35	#16
wavejockglw Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Glasgow Posts: 10,276	Quote: Originally Posted by Hugh_ To be fair 02 is appalling, I had 02 for my mobile service provider for 6 months until they admitted they were crap and allowed me to get out of the contract. I'm currently with 3 and they're unbeatable for service and price. And where I live I can't make a voice call on 3 without it dropping after a short while..... The UK is a big place and it's not the same everywhere. You have to seek advice from others when selecting a mobile service where you live to be confident about it's coverage etc. A bargain is not a bargain if you can't use it and 3 are by no means the cheapest option nowadays.

13-01-2013, 23:36	#17
Everything Goes Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In the future.... Posts: 11,259	Quote: Originally Posted by wavejockglw Indeed and that seems to be confirmed by the customer satisfaction results that Ofcom and others publish. O2's customer service is great. O2's 3G coverage is appalling. Two different things.

13-01-2013, 23:38	#18
wavejockglw Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Glasgow Posts: 10,276	Quote: Originally Posted by Everything Goes O2's customer service is great. O2's 3G coverage is appalling. To different things. O2's customers don't seem to be troubled, they are gaining market share! To is not proper English, it's 'two' actually.... when you mean the number.

13-01-2013, 23:39	#19
Hugh_ Inactive Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 906	Quote: Originally Posted by wavejockglw And where I live I can't make a voice call on 3 without it dropping after a short while..... The UK is a big place and it's not the same everywhere. You have to seek advice from others when selecting a mobile service where you live to be confident about it's coverage etc. A bargain is not a bargain if you can't use it and 3 are by no means the cheapest option nowadays. Its a bargain for me, amazing speeds, unlimited uncapped downloads/tethering.

13-01-2013, 23:40	#20
wavejockglw Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Glasgow Posts: 10,276	Quote: Originally Posted by Hugh_ Its a bargain for me, amazing speeds, unlimited uncapped downloads/tethering. Great... the 3 public relations person maybe! Useless for me who can't maintain a voice call though in my part of the country. Anyway what has 3 got to do with the Vodafone and O2 sharing agreement?

13-01-2013, 23:43	#21
beecart Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 383	Lets get Back on topic please

13-01-2013, 23:49	#23
Jwhiterz Forum Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: South Wales (Brecon Beacons) Posts: 490	Quote: Originally Posted by wavejockglw They are sharing transmission sites. Not their core networks as Ofocm do not allow licence holders to do that. O2 will have responsibility for transmission sites for half of the UK and Vodafone will look after the other half. Each operator will have their own frequency range and connect from sites using their own networks. So basically its similar to MBNL with three and EE?

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13-01-2013, 23:52	#24
wavejockglw Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Glasgow Posts: 10,276	Quote: Originally Posted by beecart Lets get Back on topic please Indeed..... the topic is actually about the O2/Vodafone network consolidation. News about that would be of interest.

13-01-2013, 23:54	#25
beecart Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 383	Quote: Originally Posted by Jwhiterz So basically its similar to MBNL with three and EE? Yeah but both operators will have own back haul and transmission equipment.