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Old 15-11-2012, 19:39
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ok she is a horrible woman but notice when neil called out she looked like she was about to save him until she noticed the fire thats why she left him as she would have ended up dying in the explosion had she stayed longer, yes she still die but thats not the point. this accident is simply lots of peoples thought not just maddie, jona and ruby could be blamed as they desperately wanted to get married, esther could be blamed as she was far too obsessed with the whole drama she could have stayed out of it and of course bart is the main culprit for obvious reasons.
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Old 15-11-2012, 19:43
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It was a difficult choice. What I do blame her for is continuing her Esther blame right after she knew she left Neil inside the car to die. How about thinking about him before starting the "Esther is evil" campaign? THAT is what makes her evil, and shows her lack of soul.
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Old 15-11-2012, 19:45
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I agree.

Maddie was a bitch and in the end she was nasty, but tonight you could clearly see that she hesitated, and she almost told them when she got out, but i think shegenuinely (wrongly) blamed Esthet.
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Old 15-11-2012, 19:47
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I still think she's evil, she started blaming Esther rather then letting the others know that Neil was still alive.
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Old 15-11-2012, 19:49
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I agree.

Maddie was a bitch and in the end she was nasty, but tonight you could clearly see that she hesitated, and she almost told them when she got out, but i think shegenuinely (wrongly) blamed Esthet.
exactly this is my point, had she styed she was gonna die in the explosion, she and the rest thought he was dead lets be real nobody would die for there mate in that position in those curcumstances all you think about is saving yourself, neil wasnt her brother. also you could tell she would have most likely told them in the end, she had no grudge aginst neil it was simply a matter of me or you who dies or both.maddie is selfish and horrible but i dont belive shes evil to the point she would wish people dead.
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Old 15-11-2012, 20:10
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She was a total bitch she told Esther to go and kill herself, I think anyone would understand in the panic of what was happening but its the fact she never said anything about Neil still being alive.
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Old 15-11-2012, 20:30
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She was a total bitch she told Esther to go and kill herself, I think anyone would understand in the panic of what was happening but its the fact she never said anything about Neil still being alive.
^ this
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Old 15-11-2012, 20:33
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The fact she didn't tell the others and allowed George to call yet his hero despite her non-schalant 'sorry' *shrug*. I still maintain she was a heartless bitch.
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Old 15-11-2012, 20:34
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I think most people probably would have gotten out of the van and they would probably be right to do so, what's the sense in throwing yourself on the bomb when you can't defuse it. She didn't want to be inside a vehicle that was about to blow up, fair enough but it was the fact that she then never said anything about it. She made the choice to let him die instead of trying to get him help, even if she knew in her heart that it was futile, surely anyone with a heart would have tried.
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Old 15-11-2012, 20:35
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oh yes,lets forget about how much of a bitch shes been throughout the year,she Almost told people (but didnt) that niel was still alive - shes a saint!
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Old 15-11-2012, 21:39
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oh yes,lets forget about how much of a bitch shes been throughout the year,she Almost told people (but didnt) that niel was still alive - shes a saint!
i never said she was a saint i said she wasnt a murderer.
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Old 15-11-2012, 21:51
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I thought that too. She actually seemed like she quite in shock by the whole thing. I don't think her blaming Esther was her being her usual malicious self. I think she actually felt guilty about leaving Neil and was trying to rationalize Esther as his "murderer" to make herself feel better. Either way I'm pissed. I feel cheated out of a resolution to her story.
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Old 16-11-2012, 00:53
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I think it's a natural reaction to try and get out of a burning van when on fire. Neil wasn't easy to reach, so I do think her leaving him wasn't nice, but it was what many would've done. The thing that I think showed her real nastiness, was not mentioning it to any of them and although they would'nt have been able to save him, the fact she left him there with no mention, in a burning van showed her very very cold side,
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Old 16-11-2012, 01:06
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I thought that too. She actually seemed like she quite in shock by the whole thing. I don't think her blaming Esther was her being her usual malicious self. I think she actually felt guilty about leaving Neil and was trying to rationalize Esther as his "murderer" to make herself feel better. Either way I'm pissed. I feel cheated out of a resolution to her story.
Totally agree! That scene with maddie and Neil really was powerful
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Old 16-11-2012, 01:17
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She was an evil bitch.

"He's dead, get over it!" Charming.
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Old 16-11-2012, 01:20
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Knowing Maddie, when the crash happened, she was probably more concerned about breaking a nail than she was about her "friends" losing their lives
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Old 16-11-2012, 01:20
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She knew that one of her friends was burning to death inside the minibus, but all she cared about was making sure everyone blamed Esther for the crash. When she looked back at the wreckage, you could practically see the cogs turning in her mind as she realised she could pin everything on Esther and make her life a living hell. Evil, evil cow. I'm not ashamed to say I cheered when she got splattered!

I'm actually glad HO stopped trying to make her sympathetic and instead turned her into an out-and-out bitch, because there was no way the audience was ever going to warm to her.

I'm already dreading what's going to happen to Esther, because Sinead and Ruby will be out for her blood now...
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Old 16-11-2012, 09:59
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Don`t get why Esther is to blame. Bart was the one driving while high on drugs. Esther had nothing to do with them crashing.
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Old 16-11-2012, 10:17
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I can see Sinead and George especially will try and paint Maddie as some sort of saint now. Sinead because she was Maddie's minion, and George because he's all "Maddie saved me." I dread to think how Esther will be treated now. Even though Bart was the one driving whilst stoned that will be forgotten because of Maddie's last words blaming Esther.

I can't believe that Maddie's first thought whilst they are all there amid destruction and death was to blame Esther. Surely most people would be more preoccupied with the situation in hand rather than thinking "Oooh I can use this against the person I'm bullying."

I noticed also that whilst the others showed concern for each other Maddie was all "me me me". They were all trying to get out alive, but Maddie came across as only caring about herself as if she thought her needs were more important than everyone else. I daresay that if George had been in Neil's place she still would have left him to die.
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Old 16-11-2012, 10:21
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I can see Sinead and George especially will try and paint Maddie as some sort of saint now. Sinead because she was Maddie's minion, and George because he's all "Maddie saved me." I dread to think how Esther will be treated now. Even though Bart was the one driving whilst stoned that will be forgotten because of Maddie's last words blaming Esther.

I can't believe that Maddie's first thought whilst they are all there amid destruction and death was to blame Esther. Surely most people would be more preoccupied with the situation in hand rather than thinking "Oooh I can use this against the person I'm bullying."

I noticed also that whilst the others showed concern for each other Maddie was all "me me me". They were all trying to get out alive, but Maddie came across as only caring about herself as if she thought her needs were more important than everyone else. I daresay that if George had been in Neil's place she still would have left him to die.
Right!? You've just left one of your best friends to die and your immediate thought is to start plotting against the girl you've been bullying for weeks on end. That is just messed up behaviour!
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Old 16-11-2012, 10:45
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I can't believe that Maddie's first thought whilst they are all there amid destruction and death was to blame Esther. Surely most people would be more preoccupied with the situation in hand rather than thinking "Oooh I can use this against the person I'm bullying."
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Agreed, she was nasty till the end - and boy was it a good way to go, she got what she deserved, she was saved and then bang karma's a bitch........

But i dont know how Poor Esther is gonna get out of this one or feel less guilty, coz the guilt is gonna be massive
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Old 16-11-2012, 10:53
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How is bart gonna get out of this. Surely they won`t keep quiet and if jacqui finds out then i think she will tell the police.
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Old 16-11-2012, 10:54
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Bart needs some harsh lessons in life - and lets hope he gets it soon
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Old 16-11-2012, 11:05
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I noticed also that whilst the others showed concern for each other Maddie was all "me me me". They were all trying to get out alive, but Maddie came across as only caring about herself as if she thought her needs were more important than everyone else. I daresay that if George had been in Neil's place she still would have left him to die.
Yes Maddie was me me me right from the start and right up to the end. I agree, she could not have saved Neil but she should have told the others he was alive. Anyway, she may not end up being such a hero if the live feed camera Neil was wearing managed to still be working after the crash but before the explosion.

Agreed, she was nasty till the end - and boy was it a good way to go, she got what she deserved, she was saved and then bang karma's a bitch........

But i dont know how Poor Esther is gonna get out of this one or feel less guilty, coz the guilt is gonna be massive
I initially thought that Esthers bullying would intensify via Sinead and that Ruby would be none too pleased with her. But in the last E4 ep George blamed Bart, Ruby has lost Jono and is grief stricken and Sinead is worried about being pregnant and hates Bart for leaving them to save his own skin. So I no longer know what to think. maybe it will just go on the back burner for a while.

Though Bart is trying to cover his tracks, I imagine Esther will do the right thing, especially as the survivors know she was there and left. Whether the police will be able to overlook it, is another thing altogether.
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Old 16-11-2012, 11:49
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Maddie makes Cruella de Vil look like Mother Teresa .
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