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steve007

16-12-2004

Originally Posted by kizzie:
“OH FFS I never said they were !!!! it was just something I noticed and wondered if there was a reason

Some people cant stop thinking anything said about them is a criticism

I don't give a flying fig whether they were or not
just like I don't care if Divo were its just something that all acts have to do at sometime or other

Forget I even said anything ”

Its true. They were in fact miming.

People should remember that the last 2 xfactor acts recorded many tracks for such occasions.

kizzie

16-12-2004

Originally Posted by angelac:
“Kizzie, apologies if my lighthearted comment has been pounced on again by people - it's all about scoring points now - disagreeing for disagreeings sake and it's verging on the utter ridiculous.

Why people just can't like or not like something without tearing things to shreds is beyond me - i'm off now to watch it at home, i shall come back, not comment and hopefully all this will have died down.”

Sorry angelac

But *some* fans really see a criticism in a post were none has been made

Go home and enjoy it as it was really nice

pennycandle

16-12-2004

Originally Posted by steve007:
“Its true. They were in fact miming.

People should remember that the last 2 xfactor acts recorded many tracks for such occasions.”

.......I can categorically state after playing it back for the 3rd time G4 were not miming......they performed acapella and sounded wonderful

steve007

16-12-2004

Originally Posted by pennycandle:
“.......I can categorically state after playing it back for the 3rd time G4 were not miming......they performed acapella and sounded wonderful ”

They did sound good, I'm not saying otherwise.

I know G4 fans dont want to hear it, but they WERE miming.

DenJ

16-12-2004

Originally Posted by lulu g:
“Is Ben the dark-haired one? If so, I prefer his voice too. I did not like their version of that lovely song, 'When I Fall in Love'. I thought the little blond guy was not very good, especially at the beginning of the song. (Even though I don't particularly enjoy their singing, they usually are note-perfect, but he wasn't today.) They generally came over pretty well in the interview, although they were very guarded.”

Yes Ben is the dark haired one

They all have lovely voices and its a matter of everyone having their personal favourites

kizzie

16-12-2004

Originally Posted by DenJ:
“I certainly will!

But I don't like your tone - I don't use the F word and don't appreciate it being said to me. I'm not happy either but don't resort to swearing! Are you one of the younger members of this forum? I'm an oldie and don't swear and don't expect my children to swear in front of me either. It doesn't cost anything to be civil.”

How would you know I was saying the F word ??
FFS to me means flying fig' s

And I did not like you insinuation that I was on a wind up ether And no I am not one of the young posters as I can *take* and *give* a bit of criticism or banter about a singer that I *like*

DenJ

16-12-2004

Originally Posted by steve007:
“They did sound good, I'm not saying otherwise.

I know G4 fans dont want to hear it, but they WERE miming.
”

I just played it back again and in MHO they were singing live

steve007

16-12-2004

Originally Posted by DenJ:
“I just played it back again and in MHO they were singing live”

I know what you are saying and its great you support your favourite, but they were miming, everyone knows it. I guess you will never agree with me, but you know I am right, even though you are a big fan of theirs and will argue otherwise

DenJ

16-12-2004

Originally Posted by kizzie:
“How would you know I was saying the F word ??
FFS to me means flying fig' s

And I did not like you insinuation that I was on a wind up ether And no I am not one of the young posters as I can *take* and *give* a bit of criticism or banter about a singer that I *like*”

Those are not the words that come to my mind when I see FFS written! If those are not the words you meant then I accept that. I hate the arguments that go on on this site and mostly stay right out of it.

pennycandle

16-12-2004

Originally Posted by steve007:
“I know what you are saying and its great you support your favourite, but they were miming, everyone knows it. I guess you will never agree with me, but you know I am right, even though you are a big fan of theirs and will argue otherwise ”

Acapella singers DO NOT mime. I can understand why you are saying this - after the Il Divo "miming" fiasco this morning. G4 were singing live. l00% If you were lucky enough to record it, please play it back

DenJ

16-12-2004

Its got nothing to do with supporting my favourite - I'm an honest person and if I thought they had mimed I would say so. They didn't. I think we'll agree to disagree eh?

kizzie

16-12-2004

Originally Posted by DenJ:
“Those are not the words that come to my mind when I see FFS written! If those are not the words you meant then I accept that. I hate the arguments that go on on this site and mostly stay right out of it.”

me too

And you only have to read through a couple of my posts to see I do not normally get

at anything
but for some reason this forum go's way over the top

So bygones and all that

pennycandle

16-12-2004

Originally Posted by DenJ:
“Its got nothing to do with supporting my favourite - I'm an honest person and if I thought they had mimed I would say so. They didn't. I think we'll agree to disagree eh?”

....Den these people are trying their best to counter-balance the Il Divo miming fiasco earlier this morning. Let them believe G4 were miming........it makes them happy. We know the truth.........I have just played it back for the 3rd time........just wonderful

Mykonos

16-12-2004

Originally Posted by pennycandle:
“Acapella singers DO NOT mime. rolleyes: ”

Is this not posting a fact,penny?

steve007

16-12-2004

Thats fair enough, you are a fan of G4 - I understand.

And Penny, actually I didnt take part in the Il Divo thread and to be honest I'm not a big fan of theirs. I'd say that G4/Il Divo are pretty much the same in terms of ability.

Why cant G4 fans admit to these things and not turn every comment into a massive argument?!

Its not a bad thing that they mimed - even the best do it

pennycandle

16-12-2004

Originally Posted by fannianni:
“Is this not posting a fact,penny? ”

......in this case..........yes

oodlesofdoodles

16-12-2004

Originally Posted by pennycandle:
“....Den these people are trying their best to counter-balance the Il Divo miming fiasco earlier this morning. Let them believe G4 were miming........it makes them happy. We know the truth.........I have just played it back for the 3rd time........just wonderful ”

I'm sorry but this post proves the point I was trying to make in my previous post. G4 fans get most upset when someone says something derogatory about G4 but then then use statments like fiasco to describe another act that they don't like. Where has objectivity and "live and let live" gone?

pennycandle

16-12-2004

Originally Posted by steve007:
“Thats fair enough, you are a fan of G4 - I understand.

And Penny, actually I didnt take part in the Il Divo thread and to be honest I'm not a big fan of theirs. I'd say that G4/Il Divo are pretty much the same in terms of ability.

Why cant G4 fans admit to these things and not turn every comment into a massive argument?!

Its not a bad thing that they mimed - even the best do it ”

.......OK Steve.........you believe they mimed if it makes you happy.

DenJ

16-12-2004

Originally Posted by kizzie:
“ me too And you only have to read through a couple of my posts to see I do not normally get at anything
but for some reason this forum go's way over the top

So bygones and all that ”

Agreed Kizzie - No problem - No hard feelings here
Last edited by DenJ : 16-12-2004 at 13:11

pennycandle

16-12-2004

Originally Posted by oodlesofdoodles:
“I'm sorry but this post proves the point I was trying to make in my previous post. G4 fans get most upset when someone says something derogatory about G4 but then then use statments like fiasco to describe another act that they don't like. Where has objectivity and "live and let live" gone?”

.......it`s only when something so obviously untrue is said about them (ie that their acapella singing was mimed). Of course we are going to have the right of reply. And how else would you describe the thread about O Holy Night but fiasco.......with a certain person accusing me of telling lies when I pointed out that Il Divo were miming, when they are accomplished singers and there was no need to.

oodlesofdoodles

16-12-2004

Originally Posted by pennycandle:
“.......it`s only when something so obviously untrue is said about them (ie that their acapella singing was mimed). Of course we are going to have the right of reply. And how else would you describe the thread about O Holy Night but fiasco.......with a certain person accusing me of telling lies when I pointed out that Il Divo were miming, when they are accomplished singers and there was no need to.”

I'm sorry but you did not describe the thread as a fiasco, you said"Miming fiasco" and did not include the word thread at any point. And it may have been mimed, I didn't see it, but if we were not there we do not know for sure....you are perfectly entitled to your opinion that it wasn't mimed but others are equally entitled to think it was.

steve007

16-12-2004

Originally Posted by pennycandle:
“.......OK Steve.........you believe they mimed if it makes you happy. ”

You make it sounds like its down to me being right and nothing to do with fact. This is simply not the case!

luvmike

16-12-2004

Originally Posted by angelac:
“I do think sometimes Ben;s voice could be more appropriate - when the other 3 sang alone on Nessum Dorma, Ben's voice was lovely - i think he was very under used throughout the show.”

i agree with you on this angelac. it was only towards the end that i began to appreciate matt and mikes voice, and i do think ben needs some exposure. he is as expressive as jon and can very well carry the melody himself being a tenor.

lulu g

16-12-2004

Originally Posted by pennycandle:
“Acapella singers DO NOT mime. I can understand why you are saying this - after the Il Divo "miming" fiasco this morning. G4 were singing live. l00% If you were lucky enough to record it, please play it back ”

It's perfectly possible for a-cappella singers to mime. However, G4 were not miming on This Morning and nobody thinks they were. Don't you know when you are being wound up?

ArtyAttack

16-12-2004

Just watched This Morning. The boys come across really well in interviews. Another excellent live performance from them too.

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