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Old 16-11-2012, 00:17
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Hollyoaks wedding day crash and deaths was terrific, and spot on!

I mean come on, lets be realistic, there was the vic fire, and no one died,

There was the dog fire, and many people died,

I can't remember the last time EE had 4 deaths in one episode,

they only tend to do who dunnit craps every year which drags on to the next year
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Old 16-11-2012, 00:24
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What's the point of mass culling of cast at once?
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Old 16-11-2012, 00:26
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What's the point of mass culling of cast at once?
To get rid of deadwood duhh
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Old 16-11-2012, 00:31
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Ok
But why a disaster?
Why not just leave, alive?
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Old 16-11-2012, 00:35
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Ok
But why a disaster?
Why not just leave, alive?
thats boring and forgetful.. the point is eastenders fires, explosions do not amaze me like hollyoaks does!

I wasn't expecting any of the Deaths!
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Old 16-11-2012, 00:36
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Ok
But why a disaster?
Why not just leave, alive?
Ok then :yawn:
EastEnders did Syed and Christian's exit on Thursday 15/11 and they left alive! But come on how boring was that :yawn:

Where as Hollyoaks did Neil, Maddie, Rhys and Jono's exits and they all died and so much emotion and spectacular scenes went into them episodes.

There soaps we want entertainment!

Hollyoaks is too underrated! :sleep:
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Old 16-11-2012, 00:43
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thats boring and forgetful.. the point is eastenders fires, explosions do not amaze me like hollyoaks does!

I wasn't expecting any of the Deaths!
Wasnt it heavily advertised two major characters will die in terrifying circumstances?
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Old 16-11-2012, 00:48
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HO are brilliant at these big disasters and keeping things a secret. When HO brilliant it sooo brilliant.
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Old 16-11-2012, 00:48
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I thought Yusef - smiling with relief as he saw Afia safe, and falling through the floor into some sort of inferno - like being dropped into hell, was stunningly, marvellously good.

Bloody operatic.

So, EE can do it.

'Let it buuuuuuuuurn' however, will always make me giggle.
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Old 16-11-2012, 00:53
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Wasnt it heavily advertised two major characters will die in terrifying circumstances?
Yes, but then 2 other characters died in surprising circumstances afterwards.
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Old 16-11-2012, 00:57
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Big disasters always makes me think of Dynasty or Falcon Crest - you know the one where they're all gunned to death in a mansion.

Mind that's a bit Jacobean Drama I suppose

Bodies everywhere.
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Old 16-11-2012, 00:59
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I thought Yusef - smiling with relief as he saw Afia safe, and falling through the floor into some sort of inferno - like being dropped into hell, was stunningly, marvellously good.

Bloody operatic.

So, EE can do it.

'Let it buuuuuuuuurn' however, will always make me giggle.
It was fantastic

We has Trevor and and Sharons Boyfriend (whats hi name again) die in the house Explosion

Steve Owen died in the huge fireball

Ok then :yawn:
EastEnders did Syed and Christian's exit on Thursday 15/11 and they left alive! But come on how boring was that :yawn
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Where as Hollyoaks did Neil, Maddie, Rhys and Jono's exits and they all died and so much emotion and spectacular scenes went into them episodes.

There soaps we want entertainment!

Hollyoaks is too underrated! :sleep:
It was a decent characterdriven exit...Well written,Well acted,,Moving but also happy I don't think it was boring at all.

Hollyoaks can keep it's sensationalist rubbish because from what I can see it enjoys killing off it's characters a number of times a year.

Soaps should do these sort of storylines once in a blue moon and not a number of times a year just to kill people off.
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Old 16-11-2012, 01:00
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Ok then :yawn:
EastEnders did Syed and Christian's exit on Thursday 15/11 and they left alive! But come on how boring was that :yawn:
Even though lorraine "the saviour that is a woman brought up the ranks & understands EE" has been in charge since march somehow the crappiness of this exit is all kirkwood's fault
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Old 16-11-2012, 01:02
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Different soaps have different styles. Why does it need to be a competition? Just because one show enjoys doing things a certain way, why should others have to follow suit?

Hollyoaks, generally speaking, has always had a more overblown approach. It's always gone for more high-dramatics, preferring sensationalism and out-there plots. That's it's style.

Eastenders, generally speaking, has always been more grounded and gone for more character-driven exits as opposed to plot-driven exits.

I don't say either as a particular negative, or that either is superior to each other. They're just different shows with different styles. Why is that a problem?
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Old 16-11-2012, 01:04
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Hollyoaks can keep it's sensationalist rubbish
I'm a fan of both soaps and also equally critical so I'm not biased when I say.... WHAT!!!!!!

Eastenders the last 1-2 years is the very definition of sensational pap.
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Old 16-11-2012, 01:07
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I don't think its sensational rubbish its brilliant disasters. As for Chryed exit I found it sooo boring and cringey.
Sometimes EE can pull it off but I prefer HO disasters.
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Old 16-11-2012, 01:09
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Different soaps have different styles. Why does it need to be a competition? Just because one show enjoys doing things a certain way, why should others have to follow suit?

Hollyoaks, in general, has always had a more overblown approach. It's always gone for more high-dramatics, preferring sensationalism and out-there plots. That's it's style. Eastenders, in general, has always been more grounded and gone for character-driven exits as opposed to plot-driven exits. Why is that a problem?
That's exactly it
EastEnders is more of the Traditional soap and while it does have the explosions and big stunts (Like Next Friday for example) it also has the character led storylines (like tonights exit,Coras daughter ect)

Prime example of a decent Characterdriven exit was Billie Jacksons death in EastEnders. It was so raw it was fantastic.

I'm a fan of both soaps and also equally critical so I'm not biased when I say.... WHAT!!!!!!

Eastenders the last 1-2 years is the very definition of sensational pap.
And look who the boss was......Bryan Kirkwood

I don't think it has been too sensational tbh.It's had it's moments but then it's also had some decent Characterdriven storylines too.
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Old 16-11-2012, 01:11
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And look who the boss was......Bryan Kirkwood

I don't think it has been too sensational tbh.It's had it's moments but then it's also had some decent Characterdriven storylines too.
I don't understand your point?
Bryan Kirkwood or not, what's the difference? It was the same with Santer and his psycho murderers.

In other words, these are soap operas.
Big overblown melodramatics are par for the course.

Hollyoaks also has its balance of well done character driven stuff, but you don't watch so won't know.
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Old 16-11-2012, 01:11
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I don't think its sensational rubbish its brilliant disasters. As for Chryed exit I found it sooo boring and cringey.
Sometimes EE can pull it off but I prefer HO disasters.
I was very pleased with the Chryed exit, moving and hopeful.

I'm not a massive fan of disasters in soaps anyway to be honest. Different strokes and all that.
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Old 16-11-2012, 01:12
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I don't think its sensational rubbish its brilliant disasters. As for Chryed exit I found it sooo boring and cringey.
Sometimes EE can pull it off but I prefer HO disasters.
I don't really watch it but I tend to notice what goes on in soaps but didn't they have a disaster a few months back killing people off?, Wasn't there a serial murderer killing people off?

I think these things need to be spaced out a little more that's all I meant.All soaps can have sensational.
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Old 16-11-2012, 01:12
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Old 16-11-2012, 01:14
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I don't understand your point?
Bryan Kirkwood or not, what's the difference? It was the same with Santer and his psycho murderers.


In other words, these are soap operas.
Big overblown melodramatics are par for the course.

Hollyoaks also has its balance of well done character driven stuff, but you don't watch so won't know.
I don't think I've seen so many stunts in EastEnders than under Kirkwood

Max Car crash
Vic Explosion
B&B Explosion

The Huge Car crash/Fireball next week (was that his too?)

Not that I mind that's all I was getting at but over 2 years that's not too bad I suspose

I was very pleased with the Chryed exit, moving and hopeful.

I'm not a massive fan of disasters in soaps anyway to be honest. Different strokes and all that.
Yeah I thought it was the right exit for them tbh
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Old 16-11-2012, 01:14
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you know the one thing hollyoaks has that eastenders dosent.... unpredictably you know a good 3 months in advance whats gonna happen in ee..
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Old 16-11-2012, 01:16
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you know the one thing hollyoaks has that eastenders dosent.... unpredictably you know a good 3 months in advance whats gonna happen in ee..
Not always......Bens Exit was kept secret,Who killed Archie,Bradleys death,The exit tonight
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Old 16-11-2012, 01:18
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BK amazing as a HO ep, his orginal era was epic and he is one of the best HO producers.
I guess everyone has different taste, I like both disasters (if they are done well) and understated exits, but prefer disasters.

Silas was the serial killer, one of the best villians in soap. He was brilliant and most HO fans loved him even though he was a killer, Jeff played Silas so well.
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