No, so you haven't missed anything but thanks anyway. It's not on your account, certainly.

Hardly any talk on her weight compared with Dani. And Dani isn't even overweight let alone obese like Lisa.

On personality I find Lisa, loud, aggressive and unpleasant as shown by the VTs. I have no idea what she is really like but based on how she likes to present herself, I dislike her - as opposed to Dani who comes across as a very pleasant person.

Oh there seems to a lot of confusion between "hate" and "not like" or even "dislike". The three are very different.

As for her dancing, SCD is primarily a personality driven light entertainment show rather than a dancing show - hence the VTs and ITT.

There also seems to be a lot of confusion over disliking the dance/dress/make-up/hair/music and disliking the personality.

Pet hate moment...

Why is liking (or disliking) so often expressed as a relative matter on this board? I don't get it. What Lisa is, is what Lisa is. What Dani is, is what Dani is. How what Dani is can or should be amended by reference to Lisa is, is beyond me. But you read these kinds of statement everywhere. 'You think Kimberley is dull? Wait till you see Louis' etc. Is the first suddenly going to be scintillating on some relative scale. No. Liking is instantaneous, direct and personal. It has nowt to do with relative judgement.

Here endeth rant

Apologies to the lovely HW who just happened to be there...

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Yes you are right of course. Quite easy and reasonable to like the lot; or dislike the whole lot of them.

Oh I can imagine plenty of Pet love there can never be any Pet hate.

Undeserved... but taken anyway

I don't undertstand that either

It's an entertainment show, and surely it is a personal thing whether you are entertained by a couple or not.

I can't warm to Denise - it's nothing to do with her being a so-called pro (she has danced professionally, but you could say the same of Kimberly and Dani - yet none of the 3 have been trained in ballroom or latin dancing), it's purely a personal thing. If she won, I would accept that and not be upset at all - it's a game show, and if my favourite doesn't win, so be it - it means that I'm not in the majority. I don't hate Denise, I'm not 'jellus' of Denise - she just doesn't ring my bells.

On the other hand, bringing it back to Lisa, I can see that she is not the most technically perfect, but I can also see that she is working on that, she is having an absolute ball and she is very very entertaining!

It's all down to personal taste and very subjective.

I admit my fave is Michael, but that is because I've been a fan of his for years, and I think he has had the most improvement since the start. We can like more than one contestant, but a lot of posts on the forum don't seem to recognise that!

And *breathe*

I haven't really seen any nastiness at all. Do you mean people have dared to have a different opinion to you? Shock, horror.

I believe she has had a lot of dance training - at the Dawn French Dance Academy.

I haven't seen any nasty threads targeting Lisa.

She's not my favourite though I can safely say I've never posted a negative comment about her - but I’m beginning to tire of what I can only describe as the ‘I’m so happy’ personality.

When Lisa dances she goes for it 100% - yet when she and Robin face the judges we see the coy Lisa, nestling her head into Robin’s shoulder and this is beginning to grate.

I do think she is overmarked. The judges seem so mesmerised by her enthusiasm and larger than life personality that they overlook the poor technique: too often they're looking at the fervour, the energy and vivacity she brings to the table: all are important of course but surely there comes a point when dance technique takes precedence over personality.

I have a couple of friends who have been to the show and in the words of both "Lisa rocks." I’m sure she does – but I’m not sure I want to see a rocking winner.

I can't understand dislike of someone for having a happy disposition and demonstrably enjoying oneself. If she was a 'diva' backstage and the onscreen version was some kind of pretense, then I could understand it. But for someone that is enjoying her time with the show and showing it, I think it's great.

I certainly couldn't learn a new routine every week and get judged on it - let alone on Live TV. So I admire anyone that can.

I genuinely have not seen any Lisa bashing or hateful commentary. What I have seen has been opinions on her dancing and lack of progress but certainly nothing nasty at all.

Must say any lisa hate seems to have passed me by as well.

I have had seen plenty of views not liking the fact that wardrobe are very poor at dressing her, and advise on how to do it better which I would have thought was generally positive towards her.

I have also seen lots of posts saying they are off the fun fun fun and side by side dancing and want to see more from her,

I think that as well, is generally positive, in that very few are saying we don't want to see her at all just that we want to see her do something different than what we all know she can do well.

I don't think that there has been a level of hateful comments for Lisa even when people were talking about her back fat last week it was about how wardrobe should have disguised it better. I will say I hate the way wardrobe are dressing her.

I also really dislike the way she is stuck in a rut and assumes that this is what people want from her, quite frankly I blame Robin a lot for this as he should be showing more variety in his choreography for her and challenging her more.

I am sorry I really do not understand what the OP was upset about, at least she is not generally ignored.

Richard and Nicky don't get many comments on them on the board and quite frankly if I were them i would be very worried, Richards talking points have been his touchy feeliness which seems to make a lot of patients cringe.

and Nicky appears to be regarded as smug and a bad dancer .

I am not comparing personalities her at all Pet just saying the OP seems to be finding a level of dislike in generally positive points where as I can't say that there are any generally positive views expressed for these 2.

As for Denise, Loius and Dani they have had a lot of threads about them but Kimberley has not and look what happened to her last week . Publicity , any publicity seems to equal caring enough to vote but if no one cares no one will vote

Wow I opened up a real can of worms didn't I?!!
Only meant to try to balance out the negativity towards her.

I agree with everything that you say, Lisa and Robin have made this series my favourite.

I love her enthusiasm, her warmth, her total dedication, and lack of wingeing. Every week she puts everything that she has into it, and never fails to delight me.

I never thought that I would agree with Biggins, but when he said on ITT that he couldn't warm to Dani, I feel exactly the same. Then he really surprised me when he thinks that Lisa will lift the glitter ball, as did Alexander Armstrong. I would love that to happen, although I don't think it will.
I will be quite satisfied if Lisa reaches the finals, and will have no complaints if Louis wins.

I don't think she needs sticking up for.

She was fantastic in the first week. BUT she had had three weeks to train for that one. I'm afraid it's been downhill since then. I do think she runs, leads and is too hectic generally and doesn't finish her moves.

Robin's choreography hasn't been great and I'm not sure he's as good a dancer as the majority of the pros.

For me she's firmly at the bottom with Richard. Someone has to be. What's wrong with that?

Odd how we can look at them and see something quite different.

I find Lisa warm and genuine, with a loveable personality, and Dani dull, bland, and totally forgettable every week.

And then there's me. I think Dani and Lisa are much the same.

Bright, chatty, positive. Two peas in a pod. There's no point fretting when people don't share your love of a particular sleb.

Brussels sprouts. Love 'em or hate 'em. No rhyme or reason to it. Just accept it as long as comments aren't plain nasty.

Honestly WHAT negativity?

it seems to have passed a lot pf people by

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I'm not sure he's as good a dancer as the majority of the pros.

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Nothing wrong with having an opinion and contrary to what has been said on here, I don't have a problem with that.
I do, however, disagree vehemently with this opinion.
Watch Robin dance with Kristina and he is amazing!!!

Exactly, I'm still trying to spot it Honestly, this year I'm really missing someone to vent and rant about, Nicky comes closest, but doesn't really annoy me that much

The only person I've seen constant negative threads about is Victoria, certainly not Lisa

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I am afraid he is tits teeth and jazz hands for me,

seen that now do something different,

sad thing is after 3 series it appears he may not be able to.

So to summarise as SCD-Observer would say.

Peoples issue with Lisa is more to do with the repetitive choreography, not her size, enthusiasm or ability. With perhaps a smidge of irritation over her strong personality and some annoyance with wardrobe.

Okay. If I have imagined the negativity about LIsa as a person that I thought I had read, I apologise.
I have defended Victoria as a person too.
I just thought I would post a positive thread about Lisa because I like her (she is not my favourite though).