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Victoria and Richard clearly should be the btm 2 they where awful
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Beepp
17-11-2012
I hope Richard goes. He looks like a ventriloquist dummy and that creeps me out
primer
17-11-2012
Originally Posted by daziechain:
“they should go now but they will probably stay so we can be tortured with more of it.”

schadenfreude
barracuda91
17-11-2012
The bicycle really didn't do Victoria's dance any favours and the music and singing was really poor, which I think made the overall performance feel a bit awkward. She definitely improved this week, she was always poor when dancing by herself but her turns looked a lot more controlled, she made some nice lines and seemed to be sync with Brendan for most of the routine. Unfortunately, I don't think it was Brendan's best choreography, it was quite repetitious, but what she was given, I think Victoria did well and wasn't bad at all in my opinion.

Sorry, I feel the need to defend Victoria quite a lot. I just think she gets some unfair criticism and I don't think she deserves to go tonight.
sambadan
17-11-2012
I actually would put a few couples below Victoria and Brendan tonight. There were some very disappointing performances in there although the huge set, shocking camerawork and almost heanously excessive lighting did nothing to make any of the routines look all that great to be honest.
megashopper
17-11-2012
Def Richard and Victoria in bottom two. I now loathe Vicky so much that I can't wait to see her cry! But it will be Richard to go, and Vicky to live another day. Megs
fredster
17-11-2012
Originally Posted by Mr_XcX:
“Also in defense of Victoria whoever choosen that song for her they should be sacked. Bicycle was just cringe and terrible.”

I guess that was brendon's idea?
nagel84
17-11-2012
Originally Posted by daziechain:
“She wasn't mediocre, she was poor and so was Richard, Lisa wasn't at her best but she was better than Victoria. Even the crowd couldn't be bothered to stand. Poor Brendan - he looked like he'd be happy to be gored by a bull and put out of his misery.
It was just stomping, Kimberley's paso three weeks ago was far superior and Denise's wasn't on the same planet. Yes she's had no previous dance experience but she must have had previous listening to music experience, she has no musicality. That was a week one performance and so was Richard's - they should go now but they will probably stay so we can be tortured with more of it.”

Lisa wasn't merely poor, she was awful. At least Victoria's Paso was noticeably a Paso, which is more than could be said for Lisa's dire dance which was supposed to be a Samba.

Yes, Victoria's Paso was nowhere as good as Denise's or even Kimberley's and I never suggested it was. She was still much better than Lisa though. Now that (Lisa) truly was stomping where dance steps should have been.

It's all about opinions though and I don't think we'll ever agree on this one.
lizziwills
17-11-2012
I agree that Richard and Victoria were the worst tonight, but I do feel the cards were stacked against Victoria - it was a terrible choice of music for any dance, let alone a paso; the flying bike was a disaster (it couldn't have helped her concentrate!) and that costume was awful. She did manage some nice skirt action but the pattern dominated and masked all her movements, it's amazing that the judges could make out any of her dance.

A complete dance disaaaaster before she took a step.
linc52
17-11-2012
Originally Posted by Mr_XcX:
“I think it was both their worst dancers and one is defo getting eliminated.

What do y'all think?

As much as I am not keen on Vicky she is better than Richard so I hope she stays and he goes. But my gosh that paso was terrible LOL ”

i so agree with you
fredster
17-11-2012
Originally Posted by linc52:
“i so agree with you”

if they are in the dance off, len will keep victoria.
donna255
17-11-2012
I HATED Victoria's dance and the ye gods the music!!!!!

The moment the high wire comes out you know it will be crap.

Yes, Richard and Victoria in the dance off and she should go.
snogglewort
17-11-2012
I truly did not understand the bike stunt. It was for about 5 seconds and it brought nothing to the dance... it would've been better to add more content in that wasted time so she could up her scores a bit than to faff abahhhht with a bike. It weren't even a glamorous bike, it looked like some rusty 20 year old bmx!!! It should been have at least been diamond encrusted lol. She won't go tommorrow, she has too many fans. Not sure why.
fancynancy
17-11-2012
Originally Posted by fredster:
“I guess that was brendon's idea?”

Brendan made it pretty clear on ITT last night that the bicycle idea was foisted upon them.
k9fan
17-11-2012
Originally Posted by fredster:
“I guess that was brendon's idea?”

No, he said not.
daziechain
17-11-2012
Originally Posted by fancynancy:
“Brendan made it pretty clear on ITT last night that the bicycle idea was foisted upon them.”

Well he made it clear it was foisted on him anyway.

While Victoria's spins may be a bit better than in her earlier routines by the end of the dance they had got ragged again and she looked in danger of losing her balance. She looked surly rather than fierce and it wasn't sharp. It was a bit pedestrian as well which looked odd for a paso. Brendan looked embarrassed to death - imagine doing that at Wembley.

Erin must be wanting to be put out of her misery by now.
SheShe
17-11-2012
Originally Posted by lizziwills:
“I agree that Richard and Victoria were the worst tonight, but I do feel the cards were stacked against Victoria - it was a terrible choice of music for any dance, let alone a paso; the flying bike was a disaster (it couldn't have helped her concentrate!) and that costume was awful. She did manage some nice skirt action but the pattern dominated and masked all her movements, it's amazing that the judges could make out any of her dance.

A complete dance disaaaaster before she took a step.”

I agree. The costume was dire. I think the bottom two should definitely be Victoria and Richard but I don't really want to see the bike again!
Liz G-S
17-11-2012
Originally Posted by fredster:
“I guess that was brendon's idea?”

No it wasn't, last night on ITT he made it clear when talking to Anton it wasn't his idea or wish to have the bicycle - he was no doubt given the music too
Hotgossip
17-11-2012
Yes, Victoria and Richard for bottom 2 this week.

I thought that bicycle bit was clumsy and there was a huge pause when Brendan was flag-waving and before Victoria got to him. I was actually beginning to think she had got her foot caught in the wheel she was that long.
VirgilHilts
17-11-2012
It didn't work at all. Especially with those blokes loitering at the back, like a bunch of ultra-camp gluesniffers hanging around outside the newsagents.
NaturalDancer
17-11-2012
Originally Posted by barracuda91:
“The bicycle really didn't do Victoria's dance any favours and the music and singing was really poor, which I think made the overall performance feel a bit awkward. She definitely improved this week, she was always poor when dancing by herself but her turns looked a lot more controlled, she made some nice lines and seemed to be sync with Brendan for most of the routine. Unfortunately, I don't think it was Brendan's best choreography, it was quite repetitious, but what she was given, I think Victoria did well and wasn't bad at all in my opinion.

Sorry, I feel the need to defend Victoria quite a lot. I just think she gets some unfair criticism and I don't think she deserves to go tonight.”

The pros take the celebs' ability into contention when choreographing and remembering steps isn't her strong point so perhaps that's why Brendan made it repetitive - easier to remember. I agree she was more controlled out of hold this week but then there wasn't much actual dancing in the routine lots of walks and leaps.
NaturalDancer
17-11-2012
Originally Posted by Liz G-S:
“No it wasn't, last night on ITT he made it clear when talking to Anton it wasn't his idea or wish to have the bicycle - he was no doubt given the music too”

I missed him saying that on ITT but I suspect the producers thought it would be a good idea to have the bicycle for Wembley.
aimeeaimee1000
17-11-2012
Originally Posted by fredster:
“I guess that was brendon's idea?”

Thought Brendon's choreography was dreadful tonight
Miriam_R
18-11-2012
Well argubly both these two could have exited much earlier on and if they ended up in the B2 tonight then, dance/performace wise it would be right.
TerryM22
18-11-2012
Originally Posted by aimeeaimee1000:
“Thought Brendon's choreography was dreadful tonight”

I thought the same, Victoria was stunning as always though.
bingoes
18-11-2012
Originally Posted by Beepp:
“I hope Richard goes. He looks like a ventriloquist dummy and that creeps me out”

I know I shouldn't but I agree I haven't liked him for years, don't find him funny. I hope he goes.
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