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Not sure about that. How many Latin words with -um in the singular AND -a in the plural are in common use in English? Even 'agenda' and 'data' are technically plural but are often used to mean the singular - I've even seen 'agenda' superpluralised to 'agendae'.
I find it hard to imagine that these young people have never come upon or seen the word "candelabra", which would lead them to "candelabrum" if they thought about it for two second. Stadium and curriculum are two words young people probably know quite well. Odd nobody mentions the Latin connection nowadays, apparently. |
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Stadium and curriculum are two words young people probably know quite well. Odd nobody mentions the Latin connection nowadays, apparently.
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Aye, but would they use the Latin plurals of those two words or just slap an 's' on the end?
- although I have heard the phrase "they have played in stadiums all around the world" more than once.
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The task is about face-to-face negotiation, not to see who can use Kelkoo or Google.
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I'm just amazed that even without google but with the yellow pages it somehow takes five people six hours to only locate half of these objects. I reckon I could do it alone in about an hour.
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I'm just amazed that even without google but with the yellow pages it somehow takes five people six hours to only locate half of these objects. I reckon I could do it alone in about an hour.
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Yeah maybe - though it would be nice if they let us viewers know the rules of the tasks more often wouldn't it? Then we wouldn't have to guess.
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Yeah maybe - though it would be nice if they let us viewers know the rules of the tasks more often wouldn't it? Then we wouldn't have to guess.
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One thing that isn't made clear is that they can't ask for the prices over the phone which means they have to go to the shops to find out what they're charging. Unless they can find three shops within a few miles of each other, and unless one of them is in the industry the item belongs to, they don't know if they're being asked to pay a reasonable amount or not.
Again, completely unrealistic in an actual business situation. If you need to buy an object you can look online and call up different suppliers and compare quotes. |
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Its also an entertainment show and what's entertaining about people sitting in a room looking at directories for most of the day . I prefer to see them out and about and dealing with people. Even with the help of computers most tasks are not going to be straight forward and easy when you're dealing with people.
The other team had to get the same objects and they only had the yellow pages but they didn't spend 6 hours looking things up. You didn't get to see them sitting looking at books for 6 hours. The team eventually split, two started getting stuff which you saw and the others looking at books were off the screen. Even if in the rules it says no computers or smartphones allowed, if I was a contestant finding out what a candlebrum or most things are is a piece of piss. You go to the nearest WHSmiths or bookshop, go to the book section and look in the dictionary. I've been to places I don't know many times and just gone into a shop and looked in the A-Z. That is using initiative. I do also understand what you are saying about computers and it being realistic, but where do you draw the line? I have 6 items to get and have limited time to travel all over the place. Don't worry I'll ring my brother to go to this place and get this item and bring it to a meeting point at 4pm. I'll ring my mate and get them to get something else and meet me at the meeting point at 4pm. When i see them I give them the cash, they give me the reciept ...job done! Sir Alan, Karen and Nick can't complain about either. You used you initiative and also as Sir Alan will tell you, in business it's not only what you know it's who you know. You used your connections and you completed the task and got all or the most items. What's wrong with that? |
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This task has never been about realism. It's about seeing how well they can apply their knowledge and negotiate. If you gave them google it would be far too easy in my opinion.
The apprentice is not supposed to be realistic it's about testing skills in difficult situations. |
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I understand what you are saying but (and there is always a but LOL)
The other team had to get the same objects and they only had the yellow pages but they didn't spend 6 hours looking things up. You didn't get to see them sitting looking at books for 6 hours. The team eventually split, two started getting stuff which you saw and the others looking at books were off the screen. Even if in the rules it says no computers or smartphones allowed, if I was a contestant finding out what a candlebrum or most things are is a piece of piss. You go to the nearest WHSmiths or bookshop, go to the book section and look in the dictionary. I've been to places I don't know many times and just gone into a shop and looked in the A-Z. That is using initiative. I do also understand what you are saying about computers and it being realistic, but where do you draw the line? I have 6 items to get and have limited time to travel all over the place. Don't worry I'll ring my brother to go to this place and get this item and bring it to a meeting point at 4pm. I'll ring my mate and get them to get something else and meet me at the meeting point at 4pm. When i see them I give them the cash, they give me the reciept ...job done! Sir Alan, Karen and Nick can't complain about either. You used you initiative and also as Sir Alan will tell you, in business it's not only what you know it's who you know. You used your connections and you completed the task and got all or the most items. What's wrong with that? |
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Who cares about realism? It's more fun to see them struggle without computers.
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- although I have heard the phrase "they have played in stadiums all around the world" more than once.

