Btw they had all worked 18 hour day
Camerawork tonight
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Originally Posted by Juless:
“Thanks for the link! The process to complain is quite easy
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“Thanks for the link! The process to complain is quite easy
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It just leads to a wishy washy answer. They never ever take complaints seriously but oh so polite in their answers.
The best place to complain is here.
Bearing in mind that there were apparently professional cameramen around as well as professionals in the control room, it does rather beg the question.
If the team could not cope with unpredictable dancers and if they were so obsessed with arty shots, they have to be immensely grateful that they are never asked to cover a live sporting event.
Camera-work that bad, that 'arty', would, almost certainly, not go down too well with your average footy or rugger fan, for sure.
If the team could not cope with unpredictable dancers and if they were so obsessed with arty shots, they have to be immensely grateful that they are never asked to cover a live sporting event.
Camera-work that bad, that 'arty', would, almost certainly, not go down too well with your average footy or rugger fan, for sure.
Before they start, they all need to repeat this mantra until it sinks in "We are not broadcasting either Top of the Pops or a car chase." Followed by an equal number of "Always show the feet."
Originally Posted by Juless:
“Just shocking, particularly when the dancers weren't on the central raised area of the stage.
How can you judge the dances, when you can't see parts of them?
The BBC should be better than this.”
“Just shocking, particularly when the dancers weren't on the central raised area of the stage.
How can you judge the dances, when you can't see parts of them?
The BBC should be better than this.”
I really don't like the Wembley week, it just doesn't work!! Why do they keep subjecting us to it!
Originally Posted by Pet Monkey:
“Yep, the light show was a migraine
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“Yep, the light show was a migraine
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I felt sorry for the dancers having to contend with the various light shows. It's bad enough from a spectators point of view, but when you're dancing with all that going on under your feet & around you it can literally make you feel sea-sick.
It was truly appalling, but I do actually feel sorry for the camera team who are only working to the director's orders but getting all the flak. It must be a huge undertaking to try and cover Wembley and to work your socks off and then get all the criticism can't be very nice
It was dreadful coverage altogether though on Saturday - loss of Michael's dance in Scotland, terrible music production, desperately poor coverage of the dancers. The production team have a lot to answer for. Even if SCD is merely 'entertainment', it was pretty dire.
It was dreadful coverage altogether though on Saturday - loss of Michael's dance in Scotland, terrible music production, desperately poor coverage of the dancers. The production team have a lot to answer for. Even if SCD is merely 'entertainment', it was pretty dire.
Totally agree.
This is a classic case of the Producers/Directors being so busy playing with their toys that they forget about the end result.
It has nothing to do with Wembley and everything to do with the production team. We have the same issues in the normal studio but the problems were just more extreme because of the size of Wembley.
I urge everyone to complain direct to the BBc because they won't give a damn about what is said on here.
It has got worse this series and is spoiling the whole show.
This is a classic case of the Producers/Directors being so busy playing with their toys that they forget about the end result.
It has nothing to do with Wembley and everything to do with the production team. We have the same issues in the normal studio but the problems were just more extreme because of the size of Wembley.
I urge everyone to complain direct to the BBc because they won't give a damn about what is said on here.
It has got worse this series and is spoiling the whole show.
Originally Posted by feewaybill:
“... This is a classic case of the Producers/Directors being so busy playing with their toys that they forget about the end result.”
“... This is a classic case of the Producers/Directors being so busy playing with their toys that they forget about the end result.”
That is a very concise summary of the whole issue.
The Producers/Directors re so in involved in their own perceived 'cleverness' that they seem incapable of seeing the show through the eyes of a normal viewer.
They probably congratulate each other on a job 'well done' have a few drinks and never even look at a VT of the actual transmission at all.
If they do, then they would surely realise what an awful job they do week after week. Sound balance, singers who cannot be heard, audience reaction that drowns any comments, arty camera work that might look good on a job application, and so on and on ...
SCD succeeds despite the Producer/Director, not because of them.
You might even argue that BF does not use an earpiece because he has little or no faith in them being able to provide any worthwhile guidance. He could even be right!
Originally Posted by Grumpy_Alan:
“That is a very concise summary of the whole issue.
The Producers/Directors re so in involved in their own perceived 'cleverness' that they seem incapable of seeing the show through the eyes of a normal viewer.
They probably congratulate each other on a job 'well done' have a few drinks and never even look at a VT of the actual transmission at all.
If they do, then they would surely realise what an awful job they do week after week. Sound balance, singers who cannot be heard, audience reaction that drowns any comments, arty camera work that might look good on a job application, and so on and on ...
SCD succeeds despite the Producer/Director, not because of them.
You might even argue that BF does not use an earpiece because he has little or no faith in them being able to provide any worthwhile guidance. He could even be right!”
“That is a very concise summary of the whole issue.
The Producers/Directors re so in involved in their own perceived 'cleverness' that they seem incapable of seeing the show through the eyes of a normal viewer.
They probably congratulate each other on a job 'well done' have a few drinks and never even look at a VT of the actual transmission at all.
If they do, then they would surely realise what an awful job they do week after week. Sound balance, singers who cannot be heard, audience reaction that drowns any comments, arty camera work that might look good on a job application, and so on and on ...
SCD succeeds despite the Producer/Director, not because of them.
You might even argue that BF does not use an earpiece because he has little or no faith in them being able to provide any worthwhile guidance. He could even be right!”
Agree. And you can bet It Takes 2 will bang on about what an absolute success it all was. I was so cheesed off on Saturday, it ruined the show for me.
Originally Posted by Grumpy_Alan:
“That is a very concise summary of the whole issue.
The Producers/Directors re so in involved in their own perceived 'cleverness' that they seem incapable of seeing the show through the eyes of a normal viewer.
They probably congratulate each other on a job 'well done' have a few drinks and never even look at a VT of the actual transmission at all.
If they do, then they would surely realise what an awful job they do week after week. Sound balance, singers who cannot be heard, audience reaction that drowns any comments, arty camera work that might look good on a job application, and so on and on ...
SCD succeeds despite the Producer/Director, not because of them.
You might even argue that BF does not use an earpiece because he has little or no faith in them being able to provide any worthwhile guidance. He could even be right!”
“That is a very concise summary of the whole issue.
The Producers/Directors re so in involved in their own perceived 'cleverness' that they seem incapable of seeing the show through the eyes of a normal viewer.
They probably congratulate each other on a job 'well done' have a few drinks and never even look at a VT of the actual transmission at all.
If they do, then they would surely realise what an awful job they do week after week. Sound balance, singers who cannot be heard, audience reaction that drowns any comments, arty camera work that might look good on a job application, and so on and on ...
SCD succeeds despite the Producer/Director, not because of them.
You might even argue that BF does not use an earpiece because he has little or no faith in them being able to provide any worthwhile guidance. He could even be right!”
Couldn't agree more Grumpy Alan. I wondered also if they ever watch it back. Week after week, we are subjected to childish VT and time wasting chat causing the programme to run late. Recently, they've been sneaking in more props and lighting distractions - reaching the peak at Wembley.
It was like Billy Smart's Circus on LSD
.There was so much not right about it. For the first time ever, I didn't watch the results show as I'd seen enough.Just switched on at the end to see who'd gone.On the plus side, I thought the Saturday dancing was a high standard and really enjoyable.
Originally Posted by Grumpy_Alan:
“That is a very concise summary of the whole issue.
The Producers/Directors re so in involved in their own perceived 'cleverness' that they seem incapable of seeing the show through the eyes of a normal viewer.
They probably congratulate each other on a job 'well done' have a few drinks and never even look at a VT of the actual transmission at all.
If they do, then they would surely realise what an awful job they do week after week. Sound balance, singers who cannot be heard, audience reaction that drowns any comments, arty camera work that might look good on a job application, and so on and on ...
SCD succeeds despite the Producer/Director, not because of them.
You might even argue that BF does not use an earpiece because he has little or no faith in them being able to provide any worthwhile guidance. He could even be right!”
“That is a very concise summary of the whole issue.
The Producers/Directors re so in involved in their own perceived 'cleverness' that they seem incapable of seeing the show through the eyes of a normal viewer.
They probably congratulate each other on a job 'well done' have a few drinks and never even look at a VT of the actual transmission at all.
If they do, then they would surely realise what an awful job they do week after week. Sound balance, singers who cannot be heard, audience reaction that drowns any comments, arty camera work that might look good on a job application, and so on and on ...
SCD succeeds despite the Producer/Director, not because of them.
You might even argue that BF does not use an earpiece because he has little or no faith in them being able to provide any worthwhile guidance. He could even be right!”
Watching the results show, the camerwork was exactly the same as for the main show.
Were the shots programmed on a computer?
If so, would explain why there was no dancing in some shots as a computer has no "human element" that might make a different decision about shot choice.
Originally Posted by alan29:
“Before they start, they all need to repeat this mantra until it sinks in "We are not broadcasting either Top of the Pops or a car chase." Followed by an equal number of "Always show the feet."”
“Before they start, they all need to repeat this mantra until it sinks in "We are not broadcasting either Top of the Pops or a car chase." Followed by an equal number of "Always show the feet."”
Rather than "always show the feet" I would say "show the whole body all the time". After all, that is what Fred Astaire always did when he had control of the filming of his dances. Funny that television people ignore his advice! Besides, that is the view the judges get, so it's no wonder that the TV audience so often don't agree with them.
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