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Old 18-11-2012, 10:23
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I remember the year Cardle won his fans on hear said he would be selling out stadiums the following year.

I assume its Asda Xmas temp 2013 for Jahmene
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Old 18-11-2012, 10:24
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As I said in your other thread he is a shoe in for the win + to flop

He's a shy, young male with a good voice... but how the heck would you market him
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Old 18-11-2012, 10:27
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I think so, yes. He fits the mold for XF winner - male, bland, dull, charisma free.

A shoo in to win and be forgotten about in 18 month time
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Old 18-11-2012, 10:47
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Not a chance . This kid is different gravy.
He will be around for years
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Old 18-11-2012, 10:48
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Jahmene has zero star quality, or musical identity, and I don't know why the producers bother to attempt bringing Chris down and Jahmene up because in my opinion, there is little difference.
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Old 18-11-2012, 10:50
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As I said in your other thread he is a shoe in for the win + to flop

He's a shy, young male with a good voice... but how the heck would you market him
I think this is the problem. He is such a lovely boy and he obviously has a good voice, but marketing him will be difficult.

I remember saying the same about Joe years ago, I work in marketing, and I couldn't figure out which market he was targeting. I can imagine the marketing team at Sony getting nervous in case Jahmene wins.

It's very difficult if the artist doesn't offer anything to work with, I'm guess this is the reason the producers would prefer a James Arthur win, because as Gary said, he is ready.

It would probably be best for Jahmene to do what Joe is doing now, go for the classic soul sound. It is a niche market, but then it's better than putting himself high up, only to be dragged down. Start from the middle.
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Old 18-11-2012, 11:05
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He's bland and dull personality wise, his interviews on Xtra Factor have been pure cringe as he fails to even connect to the interviewer. He'll release an album of pure 70's/80's soul but won't be able to sustain anything beyond that. Maybe a career in theatre will be his only option at a lasting success. No way will the core 13-20 year olds buy into him, his success if any will be the older market. Hence an album around March for mothers day rather than in Q4.
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Old 18-11-2012, 11:10
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Probably. Feel good, party type songs are "in" the moment and I can't see Jahmene pulling that off even if they didn't compromise his principles.
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Old 18-11-2012, 11:11
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He's bland and dull personality wise, his interviews on Xtra Factor have been pure cringe as he fails to even connect to the interviewer. He'll release an album of pure 70's/80's soul but won't be able to sustain anything beyond that. Maybe a career in theatre will be his only option at a lasting success. No way will the core 13-20 year olds buy into him, his success if any will be the older market. Hence an album around March for mothers day rather than in Q4.
As someone who is a lifelong fan of soul music, he just doesn't have soul. he sings by numbers and that is not what soul is about. he doesn't have the heart, the passion, the raw emotion to be called a real soul singer. he might sell to people who's idea of soul music is Simply Red but he will never be a proper soul artist.
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Old 18-11-2012, 11:12
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If he's on the syco label yeah. If hes on a different label he'll be fine.
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Old 18-11-2012, 11:12
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I remember saying the same about Joe years ago, I work in marketing, and I couldn't figure out which market he was targeting. I can imagine the marketing team at Sony getting nervous in case Jahmene wins.

It would probably be best for Jahmene to do what Joe is doing now, go for the classic soul sound. It is a niche market, but then it's better than putting himself high up, only to be dragged down. Start from the middle.
I think you may be right. I remember thinking they would push Joe towards a Glee or High School Musical sound but with new material. A sort of one man Same Difference.

Jahmene has a jazz/gospel sound and I'd market him as towards an albums-only Rebecca Feguson/Adele/Amy Winehouse audience.
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Old 18-11-2012, 11:13
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Its his "rainman" personality that I am not a fan of, he is dreadful in interviews, but obviusly people are buying into it
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Old 18-11-2012, 11:14
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Its his "rainman" personality that I am not a fan of, he is dreadful in interviews, but obviusly people are buying into it
It's one thing to buy into voting for someone on a reality tv show but whether that will translate into record sales is another matter
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Old 18-11-2012, 11:21
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He's a shy, young male with a good voice... but how the heck would you market him
He's got 'Mother's Day Covers Album' written all over him.
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Old 18-11-2012, 11:24
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He's far too awkward, serious and miserable to appeal to the younger record buying public and the grannies simply don't bother buying the music of the acts they vote for as we have seen countless times in the past.
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Old 18-11-2012, 11:29
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As someone who is a lifelong fan of soul music, he just doesn't have soul. he sings by numbers and that is not what soul is about. he doesn't have the heart, the passion, the raw emotion to be called a real soul singer. he might sell to people who's idea of soul music is Simply Red but he will never be a proper soul artist.
I couldn't disagree more . I think he the most soulful voice I have heard in years .
I also am a lifelong soul fan .
As for the personality I don't think it really matters. His voice is good enough sell worldwide .
Loads of artists with "no personality " have still had huge careers
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Old 18-11-2012, 11:35
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He would do well in America on the Gospel scene. Which is the music he wants to do anyway.
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Old 18-11-2012, 11:39
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He would do well in America on the Gospel scene. Which is the music he wants to do anyway.
Easier said than done, that market is so saturated, it's unbelievable. There are millions of fantastic singers in America who have been trying to get a break for years.
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Old 18-11-2012, 11:54
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How many people would realistically pay £50 to go and see him at the O2? You might as well watch a cardboard cutout with a backing track - poor lad just doesn't have 'it'. No stage presence, no star quality and no connection with his audience. OK, people might go and see him once because they like his voice and style of music but I doubt they'd go twice.

The judges always say they're looking for the next big recording artist but it's pretty common knowledge that in these digital days nobody's making millions selling albums anymore. Bands used to tour to promote albums, now they make albums to promote tours. They need to adjust the format of the whole show and look for the next great live artist/band..................and I don't think that's any of the current crop of XF hopefuls.
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Old 18-11-2012, 11:55
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He would do well in America on the Gospel scene. Which is the music he wants to do anyway.

I agree with you, I don't expect him to set the charts alight here, but I think Simon will push him in the US whether he wins this or not.
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Old 18-11-2012, 11:56
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To be honest, I don't see any of the remaining guys doing anything after the show. Jahmene, James, Chris, Rylan ... They are all hopeless.
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Old 18-11-2012, 12:00
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How many people would realistically pay £50 to go and see him at the O2? You might as well watch a cardboard cutout with a backing track - poor lad just doesn't have 'it'. No stage presence, no star quality and no connection with his audience. OK, people might go and see him once because they like his voice and style of music but I doubt they'd go twice.

The judges always say they're looking for the next big recording artist but it's pretty common knowledge that in these digital days nobody's making millions selling albums anymore. Bands used to tour to promote albums, now they make albums to promote tours. They need to adjust the format of the whole show and look for the next great live artist/band..................and I don't think that's any of the current crop of XF hopefuls.
I don't really get this "no presence " bit.
I could name loads of successful artists with no "stage presence "
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Old 18-11-2012, 12:01
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I agree with you, I don't expect him to set the charts alight here, but I think Simon will push him in the US whether he wins this or not.
I can't see him being a success in the US either. They don't need him. They have enough artists of their own in his genre with better voices and more charisma.
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Old 18-11-2012, 12:02
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If he's lucky he just might manage that.
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Old 18-11-2012, 12:10
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I remember the year Cardle won his fans on hear said he would be selling out stadiums the following year.

I assume its Asda Xmas temp 2013 for Jahmene
OP seems to have an unhealthy obsession with the thought of Jahmene winning. If it happens it happens.
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