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Old 20-10-2013, 16:46
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BIB 1 - they had such complex and interesting characters, I feel they just needed to use more of their past, (especially Christian's which I feel was unexplored, his youth, and also Syed's time in Leeds) and the storylines could have had SO much more depth. Talking about all this is making me want to write fic again though! I only ever wrote two, one of which I never published. Ok, I must shut up now. I did still love it. I am determined to wallow in shallowness for the rest of this afternoon if I can. Especially with DC viewing coming up.

BIB 2 - Yep, and it was painful. Totally forced on the viewer, awful. It must be hard to be under pressure to create new characters, but to make it that obvious that you want one to be accepted, it's wrong.

Right, going off to do the washing up, and make some food. Back for 2ish.
BIB Hi Starfish! Glad you mentioned this. I've always wondered about Christian's back story, from the time he left home until we first saw him in Jan. 08, about to marry Ashley. We know he was in love with Jane's husband, David, but what else? Where did he live all those years, what jobs did he have, what other relationships did he have (besides all the ONSs, lol). It always bugged me that in so many ways they made him into the stereotypical gay man, good at cooking, decorating, fashion, party planning, etc. Of course, a lot of the gay men I know would probably say that the stereotype is totally true, for Christian and for them, LOL. Anyway, some back story would have been nice, even if it was just information about how he supported himself all those years. More on Syed`s exile in Leeds would have been welcome, too.
That having been said, I did like how we got to know Christian from Jan. 08, until Syed came into his life. Despite his party boy persona we slowly saw how he was lonely at times, how he probably really wanted a serious relationship and a family. Whenever I watch those early episodes, I think of what a great set up they were for Chryed.
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Old 20-10-2013, 16:47
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You have mentioned this towel quite a few times now. You seem to be quite fond of it. I can't imagine why...
Me neither :sleep:
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Old 20-10-2013, 16:48
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I'm off to get some lunch, but I thought I'd leave you with this.
It's some New Chryed Fic!
Although I'm posting it, I didn't write it. It was a birthday present from Lyra500, who has given me permission to share it with you all. Here it is!
Thank you Alex and Lyra loved it I can sense a strong friendship forming, lots of adventures to be had
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Old 20-10-2013, 16:51
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Lol, omg, found them.

Valentine's Rhymes almost entirely composed from Danny's lines (some are mine, some are jenn's):

Roses are red/ violets are blue/ my eye is black/but I'm still thinking about you

Roses are red/ violets are blue/ you're damaged goods/ does that mean I get a discount on you?

Roses are red/ violets are blue/ have I misread the signals/ or do you want this too?

Roses are red/ violets are blue/ send me some wedding cake / since I ruined your stag do.

We clearly took this whole thing VERY seriously until the twist happened.
LOL You both still took it more seriously than TPTB :sleep: /forever bitter
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Old 20-10-2013, 16:52
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If we hadn't laughed, we would have cried.
Some of us only cried. :sleep:
I wasn't even upset about it at all until the twist shite happened, honestly. I mean, it wasn't great but it could've been worse (was my logic at the time, and it turned out to be true).

Genuine message I wrote just after the episode:

'Omg, tonight is over and it wasn't half-bad. And now we have so much to look forward to. The worst is over. /jinx'.
You can all hate me now.
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Old 20-10-2013, 16:52
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Red towel pics will always be a thing of beauty and a joy forever.
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Old 20-10-2013, 16:54
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"What do you believe in, Syeeeed?"

That for me is the key line. Gets him thinking. Not about what other people want, or what other people believe, or what he SHOULD do, but for once someone asking him directly what Syed himself actually believes.

And we all know what conclusion he came to...
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Old 20-10-2013, 16:55
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Hello

Did I hear someone mention you posted a new fic?? Could I have a link please

Yes I'm too lazy to go look for it :sleep:

Enjoy! http://www.fanfiction.net/s/8708333/34/Forever
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Old 20-10-2013, 16:55
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I love that we now know Nick was looking up recipes for beef karahi as research.
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Old 20-10-2013, 16:56
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Red towel pics will always be a thing of beauty and a joy forever.
Marc looks UNBELIEVABLY good there.

Normally, I can take him or leave him :sleep:, but in that episode, holy crap.

Could've lived without the grandad shirt in the gay bar scenes. But towel and all black in one episode? How did we survive? Especially with Christian looking amazing too, and their chemistry somehow reaching yet another new high.
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Old 20-10-2013, 16:57
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I don't think it should go without saying how DAMN FIT Syed is looking in this episode.

I am less fond of Christian's sweaty vest. :sleep:
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Old 20-10-2013, 16:58
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God I love this little speech from Zainab.

"All this, it was meant to be."

I have just got all choked up. Because this is how I feel about this fandom.
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Old 20-10-2013, 17:02
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BIB Hi Starfish! Glad you mentioned this. I've always wondered about Christian's back story, from the time he left home until we first saw him in Jan. 08, about to marry Ashley. We know he was in love with Jane's husband, David, but what else? Where did he live all those years, what jobs did he have, what other relationships did he have (besides all the ONSs, lol). It always bugged me that in so many ways they made him into the stereotypical gay man, good at cooking, decorating, fashion, party planning, etc. Of course, a lot of the gay men I know would probably say that the stereotype is totally true, for Christian and for them, LOL. Anyway, some back story would have been nice, even if it was just information about how he supported himself all those years. More on Syed`s exile in Leeds would have been welcome, too.
That having been said, I did like how we got to know Christian from Jan. 08, until Syed came into his life. Despite his party boy persona we slowly saw how he was lonely at times, how he probably really wanted a serious relationship and a family. Whenever I watch those early episodes, I think of what a great set up they were for Chryed.
It was really well set up from that point, I agree! Love all your list of questions, I'd love to have had even more explored. Still there is always fic, up to me to read it or write it, lol!

Lol, omg, found them.

Valentine's Rhymes almost entirely composed from Danny's lines (some are mine, some are jenn's):

Roses are red/ violets are blue/ my eye is black/but I'm still thinking about you

Roses are red/ violets are blue/ you're damaged goods/ does that mean I get a discount on you?

Roses are red/ violets are blue/ have I misread the signals/ or do you want this too?

Roses are red/ violets are blue/ send me some wedding cake / since I ruined your stag do.

We clearly took this whole thing VERY seriously until the twist happened.
You are funny! Love your humour. I was ok too, was gutted with the twist but found the whole Danny episode before I knew rather bearable and rather ridiculous.

LOL

I'm watching Reunion! Up to Stringy Meat. Continuing.....
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Old 20-10-2013, 17:02
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That was my take on it, which I must admit at the time I managed to make work for me (at a massive stretch) because I had to be able to make some sense out of it.

And I do think it's possible to interpret it like that. Doubt that was BK's thought though......and of course one of the things that makes it fall through is because

this had happened 2 years before.....

Which is a much loved scene and why we are all here.
Awwww!
I always had the feeling that written down as a storyline it may have made some sense to them, with motives, build up, pressure etc, but crammed into a few episodes and coming out of nowhere it really, really was an epic fail.
Syed should have stepped away from the Toilet Duck.
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Old 20-10-2013, 17:03
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Wow. I am proper crying now. Good tears. I haven't watched it in so long, and it's just so beautiful.
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Old 20-10-2013, 17:03
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Just watched all the NHB interviews, thank you so much Alex, Mercs and Dessie What a lovely man, so generous of him to give up his time to do that It's fascinating to get that kind of insight into the episodes and the whole process. I love his honesty too, and the fact it pretty much confirms my view that everything bad that ever happened wrt to Chryed is all Kirkwood's fault :sleep: I don't remember much about the DTW kiss episode (I've blocked it out *saying that a la Bobby in ACL* ) but I'm glad you were able to reassure him that it wasn't his fault it wasn't believable
I still find it hilarious that he tried his utmost to destroy not one, but two, of your OTPs.

Then went back to HO and destroyed the OTP that destroyed your OTP. Lol.
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Old 20-10-2013, 17:04
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Red towel pics will always be a thing of beauty and a joy forever.
Stored in a corner of my girlish heart forever. Along with an intimidating hat.
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Old 20-10-2013, 17:06
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Anyone in the mood for more fic?

If so, here's the new chapter of BTTB

Had to post one this weekend, didn't I

BTTB chapter 45

Hope you enjoy


Ooooh, I guess I know what I'll be doing next

Thank you!!
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Old 20-10-2013, 17:06
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Marc looks UNBELIEVABLY good there.

Normally, I can take him or leave him :sleep:, but in that episode, holy crap.

Could've lived without the grandad shirt in the gay bar scenes. But towel and all black in one episode? How did we survive? Especially with Christian looking amazing too, and their chemistry somehow reaching yet another new high.
This was the one and only time for me. *fans self*

BIB: Totally this.
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Old 20-10-2013, 17:07
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I still find it hilarious that he tried his utmost to destroy not one, but two, of your OTPs.

Then went back to HO and destroyed the OTP that destroyed your OTP. Lol.
Don't forget having Chryed break up and Christian leave on my birthday two years ago :sleep: I must have done something really awful to him in a former life
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Old 20-10-2013, 17:13
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Awww reunion <3 <3 <3 That whole end bit is just beautiful. I remember being really pissed off when we found out there wasn't a kiss but it actually worked perfectly the way it was done. And of course they more than made up for it with the "other talents" kiss in the following episode
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Old 20-10-2013, 17:13
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Anyone in the mood for more fic?

If so, here's the new chapter of BTTB

Had to post one this weekend, didn't I

BTTB chapter 45

Hope you enjoy




Ooooh, I guess I know what I'll be doing next

Thank you!!
HURRAH!
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Old 20-10-2013, 17:16
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Just finished

So lovely, and I still don't notice the train, never do. Too busy waiting for the arm around Syed's shoulder. I love that walk off down the market at the end. So lovely how it was echoed in their final ever scene, love Pete for remembering that!

I've not watched in a long time....really like the little scene 'treat yourself' - Christian is so hurt and sarcastic and bitter. Angst but good angst, and totally realistic given everything that had gone on. Totally forgot this was the introduction of 'Abs-Acadabra' as well! So funny. And Jane sticking up for her brother, those were the days.....

Do love the pivotal scene in the kitchen when it finally all falls into place for Syed, and he has that lightbulb moment, of realising that he must accept himself, that he can be both things. Good and clever use of the idea of Zainab saying 'all this, it was meant to be'.

So sad that what Zainab and Masood are proud of is him living a lie, when he's about to do something really brave.

Love Mama Mia is playing in the background when Syed goes up to Christian outside the pub.....don't think I've ever noticed that before?

Really good, really enjoyed watching that.
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Old 20-10-2013, 17:16
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Thank you so very much for these interviews, NBH is an adorable, thoughtful, intelligent man and writer. He really gave such an articulate and generous interview. Lovely man.

I have never thought Syed was weak, damaged and screwed up at times definately.

I loved so much that he hated the introduction of DTW, and was happy you lovely people made him realise that no one, even the great bard himself could have made this story arc make sense.

I feel privileged that he took the time to speak and I enjoyed it so very much...he is lovely and I want to thank him for the reunion episode, their reunion and how it played was how I felt it should run and he wrote one of my most adored episodes and I love him for it. I agree it could have run better, but I felt what we had was beautiful, in character and superbly written.


he hated DTW.....what a bloody star that man is
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Old 20-10-2013, 17:17
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Awww reunion <3 <3 <3 That whole end bit is just beautiful. I remember being really pissed off when we found out there wasn't a kiss but it actually worked perfectly the way it was done. And of course they more than made up for it with the "other talents" kiss in the following episode
A kiss just wouldn't have fit, especially with Syed's parents watching.

Yeah, I never imagined we'd see kiss-with-tongue with Christian wearing nothing but a towel and Syed wearing boxers, especially the first day they got together.

Still needed a bed scene. :sleep:
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