Goodbye Zainab 
An incredibly well deserved Julia's theme for Nina :')
An incredibly well deserved Julia's theme for Nina :')
Waiting for Chryed to Get It On - Christian & Syed (Part 269)
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I really enjoyed those past two eps. I know EE can't be like that all the time but... gah, it's so much better when it is.
Anyway, I think Nina and Nitin did themselves extremely proud and while I thought the exit storyline was a total shambles, these last two episodes have felt fitting. I've particularly liked all the retrospection. I mean, they might've mentioned their eldest son who has had no impact upon their lives or relationship and wasn't the a major cause of the split in October they mentioned whatsoever, clearly, but whatever. I still don't really buy Masood and Zainab splitting up permanently, but I don't think I ever would. The acting really sold it to me, even if the storytelling didn't quite. (It's soiled by Masood seeming to get with Ayesha like two weeks later, but, hey, EE and I are done now so nothing is canon for me! Yay!)
Anyway, I wish Nina all the best- she is fabulously talented, seems like a wonderful woman and deserves to do so well.
Anyway, I think Nina and Nitin did themselves extremely proud and while I thought the exit storyline was a total shambles, these last two episodes have felt fitting. I've particularly liked all the retrospection. I mean, they might've mentioned their eldest son who has had no impact upon their lives or relationship and wasn't the a major cause of the split in October they mentioned whatsoever, clearly, but whatever. I still don't really buy Masood and Zainab splitting up permanently, but I don't think I ever would. The acting really sold it to me, even if the storytelling didn't quite. (It's soiled by Masood seeming to get with Ayesha like two weeks later, but, hey, EE and I are done now so nothing is canon for me! Yay!)
Anyway, I wish Nina all the best- she is fabulously talented, seems like a wonderful woman and deserves to do so well.
Hey all, Long time no speak. How are we?
So Zainab has left now. I thought the last 2 eps were fine but the build up was awful and im no fan of Ayesha. She and Masood starting a relationship is just wrong imo. Im glad Tamwar tells her were to go. Lets hope she listens.
So life my end is good. Lily is amazing and she is walking freely now and Jayden is 3 months tomorrow. Times flies eh? Hopefully another new addition will be on their way soon. By xmas id like another one and then we'll stop for a while before having our 4th and 5th.
So Zainab has left now. I thought the last 2 eps were fine but the build up was awful and im no fan of Ayesha. She and Masood starting a relationship is just wrong imo. Im glad Tamwar tells her were to go. Lets hope she listens.
So life my end is good. Lily is amazing and she is walking freely now and Jayden is 3 months tomorrow. Times flies eh? Hopefully another new addition will be on their way soon. By xmas id like another one and then we'll stop for a while before having our 4th and 5th.
Originally Posted by Clarkeyfangirl:
“Hello!
I don't think we've spoken much, but I do remember your name, so Hi! It would be lovely to see some posting going on still. Good luck with your Uni-work too!
I want to have a really good rewatch of the whole thing at some point pretty soonish. I'll probably be a wreck watching it all, though. My poor heart...
I also really want Zainab and Masood to reunite at some point. It just doesn't feel right that they're not together, somehow, even though they have lots of issues.
No, nothing is completely ruled out re. Chryed. I highly doubt that either Marc or Johnny would return, though. But YES, there's still fic!
(Hint, hint to the writers out there 
Naah, only if you find inspiration... which I hope you will).
Anyway... here endeth the waffling from me (for now).
Love to all. xxx”
“Hello!
I don't think we've spoken much, but I do remember your name, so Hi! It would be lovely to see some posting going on still. Good luck with your Uni-work too!
I want to have a really good rewatch of the whole thing at some point pretty soonish. I'll probably be a wreck watching it all, though. My poor heart...
I also really want Zainab and Masood to reunite at some point. It just doesn't feel right that they're not together, somehow, even though they have lots of issues.
No, nothing is completely ruled out re. Chryed. I highly doubt that either Marc or Johnny would return, though. But YES, there's still fic!
(Hint, hint to the writers out there Naah, only if you find inspiration... which I hope you will).Anyway... here endeth the waffling from me (for now).
Love to all. xxx”
I'm honestly amazed people recognise me! I always felt so welcome and like I truly belonged here, even if I was never around for very long.
Rewatching the whole storyline (and I do plan to watch until November 2012 too) is fun, but only for those moments when you forget the boys have actually left. And then it's heartbreaking...it still hurts, and I might just be looking at 2009-2010 through rose-tinted glasses because I had quite a few real life problems the year after, but I do just really miss them, and that wonderful storyline.
Hmm. What I've read about Zainab's exit it doesn't sound too good, though obviously I can't judge. I could never believe them breaking up, especially in the convoluted style her last storyline seemed to have.
I can't see Marc and Johnny returning either...I'd love for them too, though. Although if there's any chance of one of them returning without the other for whatever reason, then obviously I'd rather they didn't. I have so much respect to both of them for deciding to leave as a unit to keep their devoted fans happy.
Originally Posted by AussieEnder:
“Nice to hear from you Daisyunu. I hope you continue to post.”
“Nice to hear from you Daisyunu. I hope you continue to post.”
Thank you very much.
I will endeavour to post! Just because Chryed have left now, doesn't mean the thread has to end! Their love will never die, and neither should our love for them!
Just thought I would pop on to say hi....not been on for a few days.....
Hello to Daisyunu - I remember you, I always remember posters...I've been here for 3 years! Thanks to everyone (KBambi, Towers) for the info about TV appearances and spoiler bits. x
I thought the whole week of episodes with Zainab leaving were fantastic, but special praise especially for Thurs & Fri, both of which I found really moving.
What I liked........
Masood acknowledging he had been in the wrong sometimes....I didn't feel it was all one sided. I felt he realised that Zainab's more negative traits would never change and I found the whole break up fairly believeable. I didn't see Ayesha as anything more than a catalyst....I know there have been spoilers released saying she is returning but now apparently she won't be staying. Hooray for that! For me, the writing communicated that although he may have gone there in his imagination, it wasn't really about her as some massive longing on his part, more that she was a diversion from him facing up to the fact that deep down he didn't really want to re-marry Zainab.
Anyway....I digress....EE only had 2 - options split or death, and I am glad the door was left open for Nina. There is every chance that they may re-unite at some stage. I really hope if Nitin does decide to go one day, then they will take it that way.
I loved the diversity in all the scenes...the exploration of their whole relationship which ranged from rage, to humour, to tenderness and heartbreaking sadness. They tried to be kind to each other. I liked the whole idea of packing up stuff with them both 'pretending' that all they were doing was clearing up the house....then realising what they were actually doing was splitting up....but didn't really want to say it out loud or face it.
Loved the role playing section and really liked the salt comment...when Masood gave an example of how 'I have to like it how you like it' - this is such a small thing but it is one of those things that, when one is contemplating splitting up, is the kind of thing that you think about... he just felt that Zainab never 'saw him' anymore...he was a non-person to her. Her desire for social acceptance, fear of shame, tremendous pride and worry about their standing in the community would always override her ability to see what was more important, how it blinded her to how she would dismiss or ignore the personal feelings of her family members. ETA...what I mean is, the salt thing is such a small thing, but part of something so much bigger and all pervading through her whole personality.
I would have liked even more from Masood admitting his wrongdoings....I was pleased when he said he wished he could go back in time to before Jane, and before they even came to Walford. I'm not diminishing his faults, because I think they are huge, just looking at from his pov of how she had grown a bit but not enough for him, and the reasons that he gave were all perfectly adequate for me. She is a tremendously dominant figure and he never did really learn to deal with it - swinging from being dictatorial in his moments of rebellion and then back to being a doormat again. So for me, his reasons made sense enough. I don't think the Ayesha angle was even really necessary....not really.....but I accept it as he realised that if he could contemplate 'going there' then something deep down was wrong with them.
I would have liked more Syed mentions and I think a discussion about some of the issues around all that would have been brilliant, but I didn't expect to get it simply because EE will never go into big discussions about departed characters........not generally. It also made me feel sad that Zainab had a much more lengthy goodbye scene with Tamwar...would have loved for that with Syed.
ETA - second edit, also wanted to add, that although as usual Zainab's negative traits were ramped up 100%, as EE always does for a leaving character, I really felt for her, and she still remained the same for me, a women both likeable and infuriating.....and kind of sad in how damaged she was... especially when she seemed to realise and said 'I can be different' but it was a case of him waiting too long. It was very sad. I thought the way they swung it back to her deciding to then just go, off and away worked quite well with her character, normally EE 'quick exits' often feel massively forced but with her....maybe because she does do the big shutdown, with pride, hurt, and anger, it kind of worked ok for me. I would love to hear one day that she is living in Birmingham near Chryed and being near Yasmin, but for me personally, I am happy to think of them still travelling or even if they are out there in Birmingham... they need their time to settle down, have their space and their life and I don't see her being near them NOW as necessarily a good thing. So, that worked for me too, in my head canon. (proper normal) :sleep:
The acting was just outstanding and there is so much to praise...so I was very happy, (sobbing away on the sofa on Friday night) lol.
...
End of long ramble, thanks to everyone who has continued to post and I will be here from time to time....after all it's the place where I first enjoyed talking about Chryed.
Hello to Daisyunu - I remember you, I always remember posters...I've been here for 3 years!
Thanks to everyone (KBambi, Towers) for the info about TV appearances and spoiler bits. x I thought the whole week of episodes with Zainab leaving were fantastic, but special praise especially for Thurs & Fri, both of which I found really moving.
What I liked........
Masood acknowledging he had been in the wrong sometimes....I didn't feel it was all one sided. I felt he realised that Zainab's more negative traits would never change and I found the whole break up fairly believeable. I didn't see Ayesha as anything more than a catalyst....I know there have been spoilers released saying she is returning but now apparently she won't be staying. Hooray for that!
For me, the writing communicated that although he may have gone there in his imagination, it wasn't really about her as some massive longing on his part, more that she was a diversion from him facing up to the fact that deep down he didn't really want to re-marry Zainab. Anyway....I digress....EE only had 2 - options split or death, and I am glad the door was left open for Nina. There is every chance that they may re-unite at some stage. I really hope if Nitin does decide to go one day, then they will take it that way.
I loved the diversity in all the scenes...the exploration of their whole relationship which ranged from rage, to humour, to tenderness and heartbreaking sadness. They tried to be kind to each other. I liked the whole idea of packing up stuff with them both 'pretending' that all they were doing was clearing up the house....then realising what they were actually doing was splitting up....but didn't really want to say it out loud or face it.
Loved the role playing section and really liked the salt comment...when Masood gave an example of how 'I have to like it how you like it' - this is such a small thing but it is one of those things that, when one is contemplating splitting up, is the kind of thing that you think about... he just felt that Zainab never 'saw him' anymore...he was a non-person to her. Her desire for social acceptance, fear of shame, tremendous pride and worry about their standing in the community would always override her ability to see what was more important, how it blinded her to how she would dismiss or ignore the personal feelings of her family members. ETA...what I mean is, the salt thing is such a small thing, but part of something so much bigger and all pervading through her whole personality.
I would have liked even more from Masood admitting his wrongdoings....I was pleased when he said he wished he could go back in time to before Jane, and before they even came to Walford. I'm not diminishing his faults, because I think they are huge, just looking at from his pov of how she had grown a bit but not enough for him, and the reasons that he gave were all perfectly adequate for me. She is a tremendously dominant figure and he never did really learn to deal with it - swinging from being dictatorial in his moments of rebellion and then back to being a doormat again. So for me, his reasons made sense enough. I don't think the Ayesha angle was even really necessary....not really.....but I accept it as he realised that if he could contemplate 'going there' then something deep down was wrong with them.
I would have liked more Syed mentions and I think a discussion about some of the issues around all that would have been brilliant, but I didn't expect to get it simply because EE will never go into big discussions about departed characters...
.....not generally. It also made me feel sad that Zainab had a much more lengthy goodbye scene with Tamwar...would have loved for that with Syed. ETA - second edit, also wanted to add, that although as usual Zainab's negative traits were ramped up 100%, as EE always does for a leaving character, I really felt for her, and she still remained the same for me, a women both likeable and infuriating.....and kind of sad in how damaged she was... especially when she seemed to realise and said 'I can be different' but it was a case of him waiting too long. It was very sad. I thought the way they swung it back to her deciding to then just go, off and away worked quite well with her character, normally EE 'quick exits' often feel massively forced but with her....maybe because she does do the big shutdown, with pride, hurt, and anger, it kind of worked ok for me. I would love to hear one day that she is living in Birmingham near Chryed and being near Yasmin, but for me personally, I am happy to think of them still travelling or even if they are out there in Birmingham... they need their time to settle down, have their space and their life and I don't see her being near them NOW as necessarily a good thing. So, that worked for me too, in my head canon. (proper normal) :sleep:
The acting was just outstanding and there is so much to praise...so I was very happy, (sobbing away on the sofa on Friday night) lol.
...End of long ramble, thanks to everyone who has continued to post and I will be here from time to time....after all it's the place where I first enjoyed talking about Chryed.
Our boys are up for Best Wedding at the AAS Awards!
Really hope they get it, Marc and Johnny deserve it and so does Pete!
I just skim read a thread about the nominations and someone commented that they shouldn't have gotten nominated because 'it was barely even a wedding'. Say what now? :sleep:
Voting opens here on Wednesday.
Really hope they get it, Marc and Johnny deserve it and so does Pete!
I just skim read a thread about the nominations and someone commented that they shouldn't have gotten nominated because 'it was barely even a wedding'. Say what now? :sleep:
Voting opens here on Wednesday.
Hello lovely Chryedville!
Hello! Lovely to see another post from you.
I'm so glad that you've felt (and sort of still feel!) that way about this place. It really is wonderful. Even if I had found Chryed and their story and fallen in love with it and them anyway, it wouldn't have been the same without this place. I haven't been here very much or very long but reading all the discussions etc. on here, learning so much and seeing the friendships growing between all of you has SO heightened my experience and enjoyment of the story. /Soppy moment
For me, rewatching is always heartbreaking, it just hurts in that sort of unexplainable way that sort of feels good as well... because it is truly wonderful, and I wouldn't have wanted to NOT find it and fall in love with it for anything in the world.. /More soppy moments...
I know, I love and respect them so much for putting what's right for the story and the characters before anything else and decide it had to be together. Shame that they weren't in charge of the actual storylining as well And yes, one returning without the other is a definite no-no (unless it's for like one/two ep(s) where the one returning is there to, say, help Masood/Tamwar/Roxy and Amy move or something like that and bring a little closure to that while it's made clear that they are still together and happy etc., the other one just couldn't make it there on that particular day. That will never happen, though 
)
Thank you so much for this, Star, and as always it is not a ramble at all, but makes loads and loads of sense. I agree with basically everything you say about it, and your readings of stuff. Thanks also to mt and elphie for posting.
Needless to say Nina and Nitin were absolutely wonderful and magnificent in the last two eps (and the b***h part in me can't help but hope that tptb will really, really feel the loss of Nina :sleep: )
The acting for me sold the split as much as it could ever be sold to me, I really felt the sadness and the tiredness from Masood, the feeling of never being truly seen, never feeling enough for Zainab (I agree, loved the salt thing there, such a tiny, tiny little thing, but it shows a lot to me. And I have always been such a sucker for the tiny, everyday-ish things that manage to show so much) Also liked that you got to feel the impact of Zainabs need to have that stand in the community etc. and how that would never change, how Masood could never really "heal" that. And I felt for Zainab as well, even if I've had to roll my eyes in the last weeks when she was, of course, only allowed to be the worst parts of herself... (exactly the same as with Syed when we were meant to believe that he was ONLY the very worst parts of himself and nothing else... Gaahh, but it seems EE has form for that kind of thing...) Anyway, I liked that they did really get the chance to retrospect as much as they did, going back to stuff even before they came to Walford aso. (Wanted more mentions of Syed, naturally, but it was never really going to happen, let's face it...) However, in my heart they are still endgame, somehow, and I can't help but hope that when Nitin leaves they will reunite somehow. Ah well...
I was a bit WTF at the Pakistan thing, but it can of course not be forever (even if it was a bit to "indefinitely" for my taste. As if Zainab would take Kamil away and leave Tam indefinitely and not even think about Syed and Yasmin...) But I really like your suggestion that Chryed are still travelling or whatever, healing, finding themselves and each other and would need their time alone together (and with Yasmin, of course), that makes sense to me. I hope she will move nearer to them later though. Well, in my head canon she will, so I'm OK
Hiya my darling and thanks for the info! I don't know if I can even vote, but I really, really hope they get it! Would be wonderful for them and for Pete to have that recognition.
Oh, I saw that comment as well...
Oh dear... Sorry about waffling on for... forever... I think I better shut up now...
Have a lovely day all.
Love is prevailing! xxx
Originally Posted by Daisyunu:
“I'm honestly amazed people recognise me! I always felt so welcome and like I truly belonged here, even if I was never around for very long. : )
Rewatching the whole storyline (and I do plan to watch until November 2012 too) is fun, but only for those moments when you forget the boys have actually left. And then it's heartbreaking...it still hurts, and I might just be looking at 2009-2010 through rose-tinted glasses because I had quite a few real life problems the year after, but I do just really miss them, and that wonderful storyline.
Hmm. What I've read about Zainab's exit it doesn't sound too good, though obviously I can't judge. I could never believe them breaking up, especially in the convoluted style her last storyline seemed to have.
I can't see Marc and Johnny returning either...I'd love for them too, though. Although if there's any chance of one of them returning without the other for whatever reason, then obviously I'd rather they didn't. I have so much respect to both of them for deciding to leave as a unit to keep their devoted fans happy.”
“I'm honestly amazed people recognise me! I always felt so welcome and like I truly belonged here, even if I was never around for very long. : )
Rewatching the whole storyline (and I do plan to watch until November 2012 too) is fun, but only for those moments when you forget the boys have actually left. And then it's heartbreaking...it still hurts, and I might just be looking at 2009-2010 through rose-tinted glasses because I had quite a few real life problems the year after, but I do just really miss them, and that wonderful storyline.
Hmm. What I've read about Zainab's exit it doesn't sound too good, though obviously I can't judge. I could never believe them breaking up, especially in the convoluted style her last storyline seemed to have.
I can't see Marc and Johnny returning either...I'd love for them too, though. Although if there's any chance of one of them returning without the other for whatever reason, then obviously I'd rather they didn't. I have so much respect to both of them for deciding to leave as a unit to keep their devoted fans happy.”
Hello! Lovely to see another post from you.
I'm so glad that you've felt (and sort of still feel!) that way about this place. It really is wonderful. Even if I had found Chryed and their story and fallen in love with it and them anyway, it wouldn't have been the same without this place. I haven't been here very much or very long but reading all the discussions etc. on here, learning so much and seeing the friendships growing between all of you has SO heightened my experience and enjoyment of the story. /Soppy moment
For me, rewatching is always heartbreaking, it just hurts in that sort of unexplainable way that sort of feels good as well... because it is truly wonderful, and I wouldn't have wanted to NOT find it and fall in love with it for anything in the world.. /More soppy moments...
I know, I love and respect them so much for putting what's right for the story and the characters before anything else and decide it had to be together. Shame that they weren't in charge of the actual storylining as well
And yes, one returning without the other is a definite no-no (unless it's for like one/two ep(s) where the one returning is there to, say, help Masood/Tamwar/Roxy and Amy move or something like that and bring a little closure to that while it's made clear that they are still together and happy etc., the other one just couldn't make it there on that particular day. That will never happen, though )
Originally Posted by starfish100:
“Just thought I would pop on to say hi....not been on for a few days.....: )
Hello to Daisyunu - I remember you, I always remember posters...I've been here for 3 years! : D Thanks to everyone (KBambi, Towers) for the info about TV appearances and spoiler bits. x : )
I thought the whole week of episodes with Zainab leaving were fantastic, but special praise especially for Thurs & Fri, both of which I found really moving.
What I liked........
Masood acknowledging he had been in the wrong sometimes....I didn't feel it was all one sided. I felt he realised that Zainab's more negative traits would never change and I found the whole break up fairly believeable. I didn't see Ayesha as anything more than a catalyst....I know there have been spoilers released saying she is returning but now apparently she won't be staying. Hooray for that! : D For me, the writing communicated that although he may have gone there in his imagination, it wasn't really about her as some massive longing on his part, more that she was a diversion from him facing up to the fact that deep down he didn't really want to re-marry Zainab.
Anyway....I digress....EE only had 2 - options split or death, and I am glad the door was left open for Nina. There is every chance that they may re-unite at some stage. I really hope if Nitin does decide to go one day, then they will take it that way. : )
I loved the diversity in all the scenes...the exploration of their whole relationship which ranged from rage, to humour, to tenderness and heartbreaking sadness. They tried to be kind to each other. I liked the whole idea of packing up stuff with them both 'pretending' that all they were doing was clearing up the house....then realising what they were actually doing was splitting up....but didn't really want to say it out loud or face it.
Loved the role playing section and really liked the salt comment...when Masood gave an example of how 'I have to like it how you like it' - this is such a small thing but it is one of those things that, when one is contemplating splitting up, is the kind of thing that you think about... he just felt that Zainab never 'saw him' anymore...he was a non-person to her. Her desire for social acceptance, fear of shame, tremendous pride and worry about their standing in the community would always override her ability to see what was more important, how it blinded her to how she would dismiss or ignore the personal feelings of her family members. ETA...what I mean is, the salt thing is such a small thing, but part of something so much bigger and all pervading through her whole personality.
I would have liked even more from Masood admitting his wrongdoings....I was pleased when he said he wished he could go back in time to before Jane, and before they even came to Walford. I'm not diminishing his faults, because I think they are huge, just looking at from his pov of how she had grown a bit but not enough for him, and the reasons that he gave were all perfectly adequate for me. She is a tremendously dominant figure and he never did really learn to deal with it - swinging from being dictatorial in his moments of rebellion and then back to being a doormat again. So for me, his reasons made sense enough. I don't think the Ayesha angle was even really necessary....not really.....but I accept it as he realised that if he could contemplate 'going there' then something deep down was wrong with them.
I would have liked more Syed mentions and I think a discussion about some of the issues around all that would have been brilliant, but I didn't expect to get it simply because EE will never go into big discussions about departed characters........not generally. It also made me feel sad that Zainab had a much more lengthy goodbye scene with Tamwar...would have loved for that with Syed.
ETA - second edit, also wanted to add, that although as usual Zainab's negative traits were ramped up 100%, as EE always does for a leaving character, I really felt for her, and she still remained the same for me, a women both likeable and infuriating.....and kind of sad in how damaged she was... especially when she seemed to realise and said 'I can be different' but it was a case of him waiting too long. It was very sad. I thought the way they swung it back to her deciding to then just go, off and away worked quite well with her character, normally EE 'quick exits' often feel massively forced but with her....maybe because she does do the big shutdown, with pride, hurt, and anger, it kind of worked ok for me. I would love to hear one day that she is living in Birmingham near Chryed and being near Yasmin, but for me personally, I am happy to think of them still travelling or even if they are out there in Birmingham... they need their time to settle down, have their space and their life and I don't see her being near them NOW as necessarily a good thing. So, that worked for me too, in my head canon. (proper normal) :sleep:
The acting was just outstanding and there is so much to praise...so I was very happy, (sobbing away on the sofa on Friday night) lol. : cry:...: p
End of long ramble, thanks to everyone who has continued to post and I will be here from time to time....after all it's the place where I first enjoyed talking about Chryed.”
“Just thought I would pop on to say hi....not been on for a few days.....: )
Hello to Daisyunu - I remember you, I always remember posters...I've been here for 3 years! : D Thanks to everyone (KBambi, Towers) for the info about TV appearances and spoiler bits. x : )
I thought the whole week of episodes with Zainab leaving were fantastic, but special praise especially for Thurs & Fri, both of which I found really moving.
What I liked........
Masood acknowledging he had been in the wrong sometimes....I didn't feel it was all one sided. I felt he realised that Zainab's more negative traits would never change and I found the whole break up fairly believeable. I didn't see Ayesha as anything more than a catalyst....I know there have been spoilers released saying she is returning but now apparently she won't be staying. Hooray for that! : D For me, the writing communicated that although he may have gone there in his imagination, it wasn't really about her as some massive longing on his part, more that she was a diversion from him facing up to the fact that deep down he didn't really want to re-marry Zainab.
Anyway....I digress....EE only had 2 - options split or death, and I am glad the door was left open for Nina. There is every chance that they may re-unite at some stage. I really hope if Nitin does decide to go one day, then they will take it that way. : )
I loved the diversity in all the scenes...the exploration of their whole relationship which ranged from rage, to humour, to tenderness and heartbreaking sadness. They tried to be kind to each other. I liked the whole idea of packing up stuff with them both 'pretending' that all they were doing was clearing up the house....then realising what they were actually doing was splitting up....but didn't really want to say it out loud or face it.
Loved the role playing section and really liked the salt comment...when Masood gave an example of how 'I have to like it how you like it' - this is such a small thing but it is one of those things that, when one is contemplating splitting up, is the kind of thing that you think about... he just felt that Zainab never 'saw him' anymore...he was a non-person to her. Her desire for social acceptance, fear of shame, tremendous pride and worry about their standing in the community would always override her ability to see what was more important, how it blinded her to how she would dismiss or ignore the personal feelings of her family members. ETA...what I mean is, the salt thing is such a small thing, but part of something so much bigger and all pervading through her whole personality.
I would have liked even more from Masood admitting his wrongdoings....I was pleased when he said he wished he could go back in time to before Jane, and before they even came to Walford. I'm not diminishing his faults, because I think they are huge, just looking at from his pov of how she had grown a bit but not enough for him, and the reasons that he gave were all perfectly adequate for me. She is a tremendously dominant figure and he never did really learn to deal with it - swinging from being dictatorial in his moments of rebellion and then back to being a doormat again. So for me, his reasons made sense enough. I don't think the Ayesha angle was even really necessary....not really.....but I accept it as he realised that if he could contemplate 'going there' then something deep down was wrong with them.
I would have liked more Syed mentions and I think a discussion about some of the issues around all that would have been brilliant, but I didn't expect to get it simply because EE will never go into big discussions about departed characters...
.....not generally. It also made me feel sad that Zainab had a much more lengthy goodbye scene with Tamwar...would have loved for that with Syed. ETA - second edit, also wanted to add, that although as usual Zainab's negative traits were ramped up 100%, as EE always does for a leaving character, I really felt for her, and she still remained the same for me, a women both likeable and infuriating.....and kind of sad in how damaged she was... especially when she seemed to realise and said 'I can be different' but it was a case of him waiting too long. It was very sad. I thought the way they swung it back to her deciding to then just go, off and away worked quite well with her character, normally EE 'quick exits' often feel massively forced but with her....maybe because she does do the big shutdown, with pride, hurt, and anger, it kind of worked ok for me. I would love to hear one day that she is living in Birmingham near Chryed and being near Yasmin, but for me personally, I am happy to think of them still travelling or even if they are out there in Birmingham... they need their time to settle down, have their space and their life and I don't see her being near them NOW as necessarily a good thing. So, that worked for me too, in my head canon. (proper normal) :sleep:
The acting was just outstanding and there is so much to praise...so I was very happy, (sobbing away on the sofa on Friday night) lol. : cry:...: p
End of long ramble, thanks to everyone who has continued to post and I will be here from time to time....after all it's the place where I first enjoyed talking about Chryed.
”
Thank you so much for this, Star, and as always it is not a ramble at all, but makes loads and loads of sense. I agree with basically everything you say about it, and your readings of stuff. Thanks also to mt and elphie for posting.
Needless to say Nina and Nitin were absolutely wonderful and magnificent in the last two eps (and the b***h part in me can't help but hope that tptb will really, really feel the loss of Nina :sleep: )
The acting for me sold the split as much as it could ever be sold to me, I really felt the sadness and the tiredness from Masood, the feeling of never being truly seen, never feeling enough for Zainab (I agree, loved the salt thing there, such a tiny, tiny little thing, but it shows a lot to me. And I have always been such a sucker for the tiny, everyday-ish things that manage to show so much) Also liked that you got to feel the impact of Zainabs need to have that stand in the community etc. and how that would never change, how Masood could never really "heal" that. And I felt for Zainab as well, even if I've had to roll my eyes in the last weeks when she was, of course, only allowed to be the worst parts of herself... (exactly the same as with Syed when we were meant to believe that he was ONLY the very worst parts of himself and nothing else... Gaahh, but it seems EE has form for that kind of thing...) Anyway, I liked that they did really get the chance to retrospect as much as they did, going back to stuff even before they came to Walford aso. (Wanted more mentions of Syed, naturally, but it was never really going to happen, let's face it...
) However, in my heart they are still endgame, somehow, and I can't help but hope that when Nitin leaves they will reunite somehow. Ah well...I was a bit WTF at the Pakistan thing, but it can of course not be forever (even if it was a bit to "indefinitely" for my taste. As if Zainab would take Kamil away and leave Tam indefinitely and not even think about Syed and Yasmin...) But I really like your suggestion that Chryed are still travelling or whatever, healing, finding themselves and each other and would need their time alone together (and with Yasmin, of course), that makes sense to me. I hope she will move nearer to them later though. Well, in my head canon she will, so I'm OK
Originally Posted by jenn123:
“Our boys are up for Best Wedding at the AAS Awards! : )
Really hope they get it, Marc and Johnny deserve it and so does Pete!
I just skim read a thread about the nominations and someone commented that they shouldn't have gotten nominated because 'it was barely even a wedding'. Say what now? :sleep :
Voting opens here on Wednesday.”
“Our boys are up for Best Wedding at the AAS Awards! : )
Really hope they get it, Marc and Johnny deserve it and so does Pete!
I just skim read a thread about the nominations and someone commented that they shouldn't have gotten nominated because 'it was barely even a wedding'. Say what now? :sleep :
Voting opens here on Wednesday.
”
Hiya my darling and thanks for the info! I don't know if I can even vote, but I really, really hope they get it! Would be wonderful for them and for Pete to have that recognition.
Oh, I saw that comment as well...
Oh dear... Sorry about waffling on for... forever... I think I better shut up now...
Have a lovely day all.
Love is prevailing! xxx
Hi, This is great news, I'd love to vote but not if I can.
It would be too much to ask, that both or one of them were in the Awards?
It would be too much to ask, that both or one of them were in the Awards?
Originally Posted by Clarkeyfangirl:
“Hiya my darling and thanks for the info! I don't know if I can even vote, but I really, really hope they get it! Would be wonderful for them and for Pete to have that recognition.
Oh, I saw that comment as well...
Oh dear... Sorry about waffling on for... forever... I think I better shut up now...
Have a lovely day all.
Love is prevailing! xxx”
“Hiya my darling and thanks for the info! I don't know if I can even vote, but I really, really hope they get it! Would be wonderful for them and for Pete to have that recognition.
Oh, I saw that comment as well...
Oh dear... Sorry about waffling on for... forever... I think I better shut up now...
Have a lovely day all.
Love is prevailing! xxx”
Hello! No probs
I guess you won't find out if you can vote until it opens, but fingers crossed anyway! Not a proper wedding, what kind of comment is that? We saw pretty much the whole ceremony. :sleep:
Have a lovely day yourself!
Originally Posted by coulditbemagic:
“Hi, This is great news, I'd love to vote but not if I can.
It would be too much to ask, that both or one of them were in the Awards?”
“Hi, This is great news, I'd love to vote but not if I can.
It would be too much to ask, that both or one of them were in the Awards?”
I don't know when the awards are, but hopefully they would attend if they're not busy!
Also I meant to say before, Daisy, I definitely remember you!
Chryed's wedding was tainted by everything that went on pre-and-post wedding, so I don't expect it to win, Syed was too hated as a character by the time he left and it was the worst storyline in Chryed's history. Syed and Amira's wedding was probably more memorable for casual viewers.
And it did make me cringe a bit, sorry.
And it did make me cringe a bit, sorry.
Originally Posted by towers:
“Chryed's wedding was tainted by everything that went on pre-and-post wedding, so I don't expect it to win, Syed was too hated as a character by the time he left and it was the worst storyline in Chryed's history. Syed and Amira's wedding was probably more memorable for casual viewers.
And it did make me cringe a bit, sorry.”
“Chryed's wedding was tainted by everything that went on pre-and-post wedding, so I don't expect it to win, Syed was too hated as a character by the time he left and it was the worst storyline in Chryed's history. Syed and Amira's wedding was probably more memorable for casual viewers.
And it did make me cringe a bit, sorry.
”
I'm the same. I haven't rewatched it because it made me cringe too...Christian's neediness and the tears were all too much, as was Syed's all around dipstickness during the exit..although I did laugh at him legging it when the brown stuff hit so it had a comedy moment at least.
When I think of all the awards they actually deserved and should have got I did eek
a bit when I saw this one was a possibilty.
Originally Posted by who me?:
“I'm the same. I haven't rewatched it because it made me cringe too...Christian's neediness and the tears were all too much, as was Syed's all around dipstickness during the exit..although I did laugh at him legging it when the brown stuff hit so it had a comedy moment at least.
When I think of all the awards they actually deserved and should have got I did eek a bit when I saw this one was a possibilty.”
“I'm the same. I haven't rewatched it because it made me cringe too...Christian's neediness and the tears were all too much, as was Syed's all around dipstickness during the exit..although I did laugh at him legging it when the brown stuff hit so it had a comedy moment at least.
When I think of all the awards they actually deserved and should have got I did eek
a bit when I saw this one was a possibilty.”
This. *sighs to infinity and beyond*
Originally Posted by who me?:
“I'm the same. I haven't rewatched it because it made me cringe too...Christian's neediness and the tears were all too much, as was Syed's all around dipstickness during the exit..although I did laugh at him legging it when the brown stuff hit so it had a comedy moment at least.
When I think of all the awards they actually deserved and should have got I did eek a bit when I saw this one was a possibilty.”
“I'm the same. I haven't rewatched it because it made me cringe too...Christian's neediness and the tears were all too much, as was Syed's all around dipstickness during the exit..although I did laugh at him legging it when the brown stuff hit so it had a comedy moment at least.
When I think of all the awards they actually deserved and should have got I did eek
a bit when I saw this one was a possibilty.”
I enjoyed the stag-do episode more than the wedding - fun and emotional at the same time. I felt Syed's love and guilt, Christian's love ( without the tears ) and Roxy was being Roxy but for once I didn't want to scream at her.
Christian kissing Syed's injured hand and Zainab's emotional scenes with both of Chryed were more touching for me than all the tears, running away and general OTTness the following day.
I was surprised when I saw they were nominated just because I'd basically accepted they'd disappeared off the face of the earth in EE's eyes and weren't going to get any nominations once they'd left.
Personally I loved the wedding at the time and I still do, despite being too angry/upset to watch it for a while after...you know what :sleep: It's beautifully written by Pete, Chryed are basically given an entire episode (in an entire week) and they're allowed to actually talk. When either of Chryed cry, I cry, so I sobbed like a baby. And knowing they were Johnny's real tears made it worse! /soppy. So many issues were addressed in their talk beforehand and their vows were in character and heartfelt.
Maybe they won't win, it's not really that big a deal. But I'm pleased they were nominated anyway, and I do think it deserves to win as an episode in itself. Even though the little bit at the end where they're interrupted by bailiffs is rather annoying. :sleep:
Personally I loved the wedding at the time and I still do, despite being too angry/upset to watch it for a while after...you know what :sleep: It's beautifully written by Pete, Chryed are basically given an entire episode (in an entire week) and they're allowed to actually talk. When either of Chryed cry, I cry, so I sobbed like a baby. And knowing they were Johnny's real tears made it worse! /soppy. So many issues were addressed in their talk beforehand and their vows were in character and heartfelt.
Maybe they won't win, it's not really that big a deal. But I'm pleased they were nominated anyway, and I do think it deserves to win as an episode in itself. Even though the little bit at the end where they're interrupted by bailiffs is rather annoying. :sleep:
Originally Posted by jenn123:
“I was surprised when I saw they were nominated just because I'd basically accepted they'd disappeared off the face of the earth in EE's eyes and weren't going to get any nominations once they'd left.
Personally I loved the wedding at the time and I still do, despite being too angry/upset to watch it for a while after...you know what :sleep: It's beautifully written by Pete, Chryed are basically given an entire episode (in an entire week) and they're allowed to actually talk. When either of Chryed cry, I cry, so I sobbed like a baby. And knowing they were Johnny's real tears made it worse! /soppy. So many issues were addressed in their talk beforehand and their vows were in character and heartfelt.
Maybe they won't win, it's not really that big a deal. But I'm pleased they were nominated anyway, and I do think it deserves to win as an episode in itself. Even though the little bit at the end where they're interrupted by bailiffs is rather annoying. :sleep:”
“I was surprised when I saw they were nominated just because I'd basically accepted they'd disappeared off the face of the earth in EE's eyes and weren't going to get any nominations once they'd left.
Personally I loved the wedding at the time and I still do, despite being too angry/upset to watch it for a while after...you know what :sleep: It's beautifully written by Pete, Chryed are basically given an entire episode (in an entire week) and they're allowed to actually talk. When either of Chryed cry, I cry, so I sobbed like a baby. And knowing they were Johnny's real tears made it worse! /soppy. So many issues were addressed in their talk beforehand and their vows were in character and heartfelt.
Maybe they won't win, it's not really that big a deal. But I'm pleased they were nominated anyway, and I do think it deserves to win as an episode in itself. Even though the little bit at the end where they're interrupted by bailiffs is rather annoying. :sleep:”
Hello you
Re. earlier; yup, that comment really seemed a bit daft. What do you expect from a "real wedding" in a soap? We pretty much saw it all, and I don't know much about soaps aso. and their weddings, but that's got to be pretty unique.
I'm really, really surprised that they were remembered too (it's actually tptb themselves putting forward the nominations, right?), and it did make me a bit happy. Granted, I don't think there were many weddings to choose from (and certainly no Branning-wedding IIRC :sleep
, but let's not dwell at that... And I don't think they will win, not by a long shot, but that's not the point for me either (even if I would be happy if they did, of course).I can agree to a degree about some cheesiness and OTT'ness, but it still felt really honest and true and *them* to me and when I really delve into it, I have so much in the ep that I found poignant, in character and generally important for their story as a whole. And I'd love if the ones involved had recognition for that (even if I also can agree that there is so much more that they should have been recognised for much earlier on. But what'll you do...)
Sorry, waffling on again...
Hello All
It's been ages. Just popping on to say hello, glad Chryed are up for Best Wedding and I hope they win. I love the wedding and stag do eps and think our boys deserve something.
Not watched EE since the boys left but might try and find the Zainab exit stuff. I'm Nina, Nitin and Himseh done good.
Not long till I get to see A Chorus Line And already hearing great things from those who have seen it. Yay go Johnny. Hope we get some Marc news soon, it's gone very quiet and there is a Mr Elliott shaped hole in my life.
Whilst I'm here, here's my survey. http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/HZ5WJ6T I know there's way more people out there reading/lurking than have filled it in so why not give it a go, it's a stroll down memory lane of nothing else :sleep:
It's been ages. Just popping on to say hello, glad Chryed are up for Best Wedding and I hope they win. I love the wedding and stag do eps and think our boys deserve something.
Not watched EE since the boys left but might try and find the Zainab exit stuff. I'm Nina, Nitin and Himseh done good.
Not long till I get to see A Chorus Line
And already hearing great things from those who have seen it. Yay go Johnny. Hope we get some Marc news soon, it's gone very quiet and there is a Mr Elliott shaped hole in my life.Whilst I'm here, here's my survey. http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/HZ5WJ6T I know there's way more people out there reading/lurking than have filled it in so why not give it a go, it's a stroll down memory lane of nothing else :sleep:
Originally Posted by towers:
“I enjoyed the stag-do episode more than the wedding - fun and emotional at the same time. I felt Syed's love and guilt, Christian's love ( without the tears ) and Roxy was being Roxy but for once I didn't want to scream at her.
Christian kissing Syed's injured hand and Zainab's emotional scenes with both of Chryed were more touching for me than all the tears, running away and general OTTness the following day.”
“I enjoyed the stag-do episode more than the wedding - fun and emotional at the same time. I felt Syed's love and guilt, Christian's love ( without the tears ) and Roxy was being Roxy but for once I didn't want to scream at her.
Christian kissing Syed's injured hand and Zainab's emotional scenes with both of Chryed were more touching for me than all the tears, running away and general OTTness the following day.”
I suppose there were good bits it's just the whole crexit (crappy exit) story was so awful it's hard to think of any good bits...although now you mention the stag-do Syed did look extremely scrummy as a pirate...but then they did that awful game thing where we were supposed to believe he knew nothing about Christian which, given the couple I thought I'd been watching over the years I just didn't buy for one second. Just another contrivance on top of a pile of plot contrivances.
Still that's ee exits for you
and we had past good bits that hopefully in time will be what's remembered more.Talking of which I was somewhere the other day where we were asked to fill out a form to describe our overall experience. I couldn't resist putting...because it was true...that the place had a lovely ambience.
Hello! No doubt the wedding to Amira is spectacular, once it
told here, from the night before that kiss erotically charged up
Amira and Syed leave it in the carriage. Perfect, the award was well deserved. The casual viewer may miss this spectacular cast
Chryed's wedding, the events surrounding it did not help.
But for me, I always wait for a more intimate ceremony, I look rough face of Marc / Syed so worthwhile. That knot that seems
have at all times in the throat, I assure you that I stalled deeply.
* Maybe now I can get that prize so often denied, when
incomprehensibly were not even nominated. Chryed well deserves.
Ellitridge also deserves
i
told here, from the night before that kiss erotically charged up
Amira and Syed leave it in the carriage. Perfect, the award was well deserved. The casual viewer may miss this spectacular cast
Chryed's wedding, the events surrounding it did not help.
But for me, I always wait for a more intimate ceremony, I look rough face of Marc / Syed so worthwhile. That knot that seems
have at all times in the throat, I assure you that I stalled deeply.
* Maybe now I can get that prize so often denied, when
incomprehensibly were not even nominated. Chryed well deserves.
Ellitridge also deserves
i
Being totally honest I think the whole storyline from start to finish was just awful, pure and simple. So glad they've both gone.
Originally Posted by coulditbemagic:
“Hello! No doubt the wedding to Amira is spectacular, once it
told here, from the night before that kiss erotically charged up
Amira and Syed leave it in the carriage. Perfect, the award was well deserved. The casual viewer may miss this spectacular cast
Chryed's wedding, the events surrounding it did not help.
But for me, I always wait for a more intimate ceremony, I look rough face of Marc / Syed so worthwhile. That knot that seems
have at all times in the throat, I assure you that I stalled deeply.
* Maybe now I can get that prize so often denied, when
incomprehensibly were not even nominated. Chryed well deserves.
Ellitridge also deserves
i”
“Hello! No doubt the wedding to Amira is spectacular, once it
told here, from the night before that kiss erotically charged up
Amira and Syed leave it in the carriage. Perfect, the award was well deserved. The casual viewer may miss this spectacular cast
Chryed's wedding, the events surrounding it did not help.
But for me, I always wait for a more intimate ceremony, I look rough face of Marc / Syed so worthwhile. That knot that seems
have at all times in the throat, I assure you that I stalled deeply.
* Maybe now I can get that prize so often denied, when
incomprehensibly were not even nominated. Chryed well deserves.
Ellitridge also deserves
i”
Aww, wonderfully put!
Originally Posted by KBambi:
“Voting is now open for the AAS Awards
http://www.thissurvey.com/surveys/2K...?aasawards2013”
“Voting is now open for the AAS Awards
http://www.thissurvey.com/surveys/2K...?aasawards2013”
Thank you!
There's some hard people on these soaps forums, apparently Tamwar's not entitled to be upset over the loss of his mum and baby brother, despite being the voice of reason for many years. He'll get over it but not just 48 hours after the event.
He'll get over it but not just 48 hours after the event.
Good morning! Yesterday reminded New Year's kiss, and today at work sounded
Mercy song, sounded loose and I had to pay attention, "I love you,
but I must be true to myself. Begging please stop playing it. I'm under
your spell. "My mind is filled with bright lights and beautiful Christmas trees and could only see Christian and Syed turning hugging and kissing in the kitchen, as if their life depended on it.
* As I can forget. It's impossible!
Mercy song, sounded loose and I had to pay attention, "I love you,
but I must be true to myself. Begging please stop playing it. I'm under
your spell. "My mind is filled with bright lights and beautiful Christmas trees and could only see Christian and Syed turning hugging and kissing in the kitchen, as if their life depended on it.
* As I can forget. It's impossible!
Thanks for the link.
Although I have to say that's a rather disappointing video. Considering the importance of comedy to Nina I don't think there was any...she resembled a bit of a screaming banshee for most of it! And since her relationship with Syed was such an important one to her story I was hoping for more than a couple of glimpses of him in his 1st wedding gear. A couple of words between them at least you'd have thought? That's what you get for quitting though!
Thankfully whoever made that one won't be making one for the Pope, heaven knows what it would be like.
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