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Old 18-11-2012, 21:30
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Simon wants this year's X Factor to be awful. He wants it to be ruined so when he brings out his new show next year (either a revamped X Factor, or a totally rebranded/new show) everyone will think it amazing in comparison.

The only way this can happen is if Christopher (or Rylan) wins. Union J won't win because Simon wants to use them as a cash cow, and they'll be tarnished if they win.
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Old 18-11-2012, 21:37
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It's a good theory, may well be true. Personally though I think it's unlikely that even Simon would want to destroy the credibility of a brand he's been building for nearly 10 years, simply to launch another format?
He has plenty of other ventures (such as BGT) which have done well without killing off a predecessor.
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Old 18-11-2012, 21:42
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It's a good theory, may well be true. Personally though I think it's unlikely that even Simon would want to destroy the credibility of a brand he's been building for nearly 10 years, simply to launch another format?
He has plenty of other ventures (such as BGT) which have done well without killing off a predecessor.
True. But I think he might want to trial a new format in Britain first before taking it overseas, like he has done with X Factor. The only way that would work is if he kills off the British X Factor.
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Old 18-11-2012, 21:53
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I said it before Emma Willis!
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Old 18-11-2012, 23:29
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True. But I think he might want to trial a new format in Britain first before taking it overseas, like he has done with X Factor. The only way that would work is if he kills off the British X Factor.
I don't think he has to kill off one format to trial a new one. He's been battling in the US to get the X Factor to takeover Idol. I doubt that destroying the show here will help the US audience take it seriously.
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Old 18-11-2012, 23:40
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I disagree. Anyway, I don't think Chris can win because, if he is indeed in the final, he would most likely be up against Jahmene and in the final head to head there would be both a huge pro-Jahmene vore and a stop Chris one. The public like fooling around and wacky results but in the end we know it means everything to the contestants so we take it seriously in the finals and also if we vote in total turkeys these shows will be canned and we'll get TV where we get no say - just like politics!
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Old 18-11-2012, 23:43
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Simon wants this year's X Factor to be awful. He wants it to be ruined so when he brings out his new show next year (either a revamped X Factor, or a totally rebranded/new show) everyone will think it amazing in comparison.

The only way this can happen is if Christopher (or Rylan) wins. Union J won't win because Simon wants to use them as a cash cow, and they'll be tarnished if they win.
Interesting thread. Many weeks ago I saw something minor, but unusual on the show that gave me an inkling that Chris might indeed be the chosen one. This was only week 2 and seemed insane at the time. After tonight, can't wait to see if I'm right.
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Old 26-11-2012, 23:14
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Bump because I think I'm correct.
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Old 26-11-2012, 23:17
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Interesting thread. Many weeks ago I saw something minor, but unusual on the show that gave me an inkling that Chris might indeed be the chosen one. This was only week 2 and seemed insane at the time. After tonight, can't wait to see if I'm right.
Bump because I think I'm correct.
I don't think Chris is the chosen one at all. They wouldn't be painting him in a bad light in the VTs and suggesting nobody likes him backstage if he was because normally that tarnishes someones vote with immediate effect (this case is obviously special )
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Old 26-11-2012, 23:37
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This would just be awful and so unfair to the likes of Jahmene and James, who are GENUINE talented people.

If Christopher wins it will be a total joke.
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Old 26-11-2012, 23:51
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This would just be awful and so unfair to the likes of Jahmene and James, who are GENUINE talented people.

If Christopher wins it will be a total joke.
You're entitled to your opinion - but I totally disagree. I can't listen to James, and Jahmenes voice is almost as painful to listen to but not quite. Chris is talented and he's my winner. Hate to copy you but if those two win it'll be a joke.
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Old 26-11-2012, 23:57
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the likes of Jahmene and James, who are GENUINE talented people.
I disagree. Neither of them are particularly good singers. James has a little more about him than Jahmene but he's nothing special. Chris might not be mainstream but he is certainly the best singer in the competition and therefore the most talented of a modest enough bunch.
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Old 27-11-2012, 00:04
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You're entitled to your opinion - but I totally disagree. I can't listen to James, and Jahmenes voice is almost as painful to listen to but not quite. Chris is talented and he's my winner. Hate to copy you but if those two win it'll be a joke.
He is talented to a point, the point being he can hold a note, but I just can't watch him, he makes me cringe, he is a cruise ship/social club singer, someone you would think was brilliant when you've had a few. His personality, to me really makes my skin crawl, I find him totally insincere and needy. James sounds in pain when he sings, it was interesting to hear the first couple of times, but now it is just boring, and Jahmene, lovely lad, but he seems to murder some songs when he goes high with the notes.

I think Ella and Jade were far more talented than either of those three and if they had made it to the final, it would be a much better one than what we have got coming to us.
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Old 27-11-2012, 15:45
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If he wins, and it reflects on how underwhelming the series has been, I doubt people will tune in next year despite if any improvements are made.

Chris will just be another Jai McDowall (who won BGT last year) who just won't sell well or be successful at all. Would you really want him to win over James who geniuinely is marketable, and has a region of fans?
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Old 27-11-2012, 16:02
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he's not the chosen one and i think the media leeks support this (dont really buy the reverse psychology stuff). if he wins perhaps they will take next year's final 12 more seriously.
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Old 27-11-2012, 16:11
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He is talented to a point, the point being he can hold a note, but I just can't watch him, he makes me cringe, he is a cruise ship/social club singer, someone you would think was brilliant when you've had a few. His personality, to me really makes my skin crawl, I find him totally insincere and needy. James sounds in pain when he sings, it was interesting to hear the first couple of times, but now it is just boring, and Jahmene, lovely lad, but he seems to murder some songs when he goes high with the notes.

I think Ella and Jade were far more talented than either of those three and if they had made it to the final, it would be a much better one than what we have got coming to us.
Some people would say James Arthur is embarrassing to watch, trying to act all cool and "edgy". It is all about perspective. For many, Christopher is the peoples champion.
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Old 27-11-2012, 21:22
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If he wins, and it reflects on how underwhelming the series has been, I doubt people will tune in next year despite if any improvements are made.

Chris will just be another Jai McDowall (who won BGT last year) who just won't sell well or be successful at all. Would you really want him to win over James who geniuinely is marketable, and has a region of fans?
James is only marketable as Matt Cardle supposedly was. Look what has happened to him. Ditto with the fans. Didn't stick around for long did they?
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Old 27-11-2012, 21:55
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As said at the outset,there was a lot of strong contenders this year..then out of the blue Ella was voted out,and it all went to pot, so don't be surprised if everyone gets a record deal, and it will be left to the buying public to decide if any of them will have a worthwhile singing career.

Except for Rylan that is,who will be at home nursing his baby, O yes he wants to be a mummy
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Old 27-11-2012, 22:11
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Oh I do hope he doesnt I really can't cope with the over reaction and leaping around the stage. And probably the faux shaky shakes.

On the other hand, if he gets the votes so be it. Thats the point after all. I really cannot, no matter how much I try, understand why anyone would want to spend even a small amount voting for him. But then I have been known to vote for Rylan so I guess I should just shut up
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Old 27-11-2012, 22:23
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This would just be awful and so unfair to the likes of Jahmene and James, who are GENUINE talented people.

If Christopher wins it will be a total joke.
How many X factor winners go on to be successful?

Whether he wins or not, his singing career will hit the skids before it's even begun.

I wouldn't bank on all those who are voting to keep him in parting with enough money to buy his material post X factor.
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Old 27-11-2012, 22:26
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It doesnt matter what Simon does next year, the show is still crap.
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Old 27-11-2012, 22:27
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If he wins, and it reflects on how underwhelming the series has been, I doubt people will tune in next year despite if any improvements are made.

Chris will just be another Jai McDowall (who won BGT last year) who just won't sell well or be successful at all. Would you really want him to win over James who geniuinely is marketable, and has a region of fans?
Leon, Joe, Matt, Steve and Shayne all won and all bombed. What makes you think James or Jahmene would be any different?
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Old 27-11-2012, 22:31
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Leon, Joe, Matt, Steve and Shayne all won and all bombed. What makes you think James or Jahmene would be any different?
Exactly, they won't. Male winners tend to flop. And guess what? We are guaranteed a male winner this year.
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Old 27-11-2012, 22:33
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This would just be awful and so unfair to the likes of Jahmene and James, who are GENUINE talented people.

If Christopher wins it will be a total joke.
It's Pop Idol 2 all over again. Sam Nixon, Suzanne and Chris were all really talented young contestants, but Cowell subsequently saw each of them off with lukewarm criticism in order to champion Michelle as the winner, knowing it would essentially kill off the format. He doesn't care; if he genuinely wants Jahmene and James, he'll just sign them regardless.

Edit: That doesn't actually mean I believe he's doing that with XF. He might be, I don't know, but he's definitely not above playing dirty.
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Old 02-12-2012, 23:11
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I'm bumping this thread because I originally posted this thread on the 18th and I'm convinced I'm correct. The only way the next series can be a success is if this series is a total failure.
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