Ever seen a judge more bitter?

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sycamore

19-11-2012

Originally Posted by Roger_Knapp:
“Tulisa had the chance to get rid of Rylan, she could have saved the other act.
I am surprised Gary Barlow has not said more, it is a joke.
Rylan should not even have got into bootcamp - good singers are being voted out week on week.
Having said that I feel this years bunch have been the worst yet.
Time to call it a day or change the format.”

I agree, I think the format's getting really tired, I'd like to see them do something to shake it up a lot. Don't know what though!

Fizzyfish67

19-11-2012

I don't mind it going to deadlock if both have given a good sing off. It's when it's perfectly obvious that one is a better singer than the other as with Rylan v kye and they take it to deadlock that I get annoyed.

macman11

19-11-2012

Let's put the final nail in the X Factor coffin...

Like and share to spread the word!

http://www.facebook.com/GetRylanAndC...heXFactorFinal

jazzyjake

19-11-2012

Personally i think this is all scripted

I do wonder how much say tulisa and co have in situations such as deadlock etc...

Rosie Red

19-11-2012

Originally Posted by gcmac:
“I don't think Tulisa could have hid her emotions, she's there to judge and to mentor and she's made it clear that she doesn't think Christopher should still be there”

But she thinks Rylan should?

Karma, Tulisa. You saved Rylan - and you made the point over and over that it's about entertainment not just talent.

You can't whinge when it doesn't go your way.

plankwalker

19-11-2012

Originally Posted by Daemon666:
“Except, of course, that a race winner has nothing to do with anyone's opinion of their art form. There are rules and you can win regardless of what anyone thinks of you. Not a good comparison IMO.

Judging an art form means that there is no such thing as 'wrong'. There is just 'mass appeal' and 'niche appeal'. The problem is that what sometimes has mass appeal is rarely thought of as 'good art'. You just have to look at the oscars to figure that one out because hte summer blockbusters never win bugger all despite them having obvious mass appeal. It's the so-called 'experts' that you have to watch out for because they set themselves up as some sort of guardian of standards, like the X-Factor judges, but in fact they are just people with an opinion like anyone else and their only special attribute is to have observed more closely than most other comsumers the corporate machine that makes money from artistic talent. They have no more artistic credibility than anyone else because mass appeal does not equate to good art. The judges have mass appeal but are not necessarily good artists and their opinion will differ from the public's because they know of the corporate problems associated with marketting any particular contestant.”

Ah the "mass" effect, intelligent input and its ultimate predictability, that works out the same whether a low or high IQ, or from so called experts or following commentators. Solution is here to work out results.

http://www.ajdesigner.com/fl_force/force.php

HMatre

19-11-2012

Apologies if this has already come up. I know I'm a day late and the hubbub has all but died down, but I remembered this and thought hmmm, how apt for TC!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qD_fbebiNgQ

38 seconds in... enjoy!

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