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A Thread For Non Shell Fans.
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koantemplation
16-12-2004
Originally Posted by Electra:
“A break of 10 weeks doesn't sound co-dependant to me.”

Sounds very co dependant to me.
Mabelle
16-12-2004
Originally Posted by lulu g:
“I think the key word is 'manipulate'.”

"manipulate" is a very loaded word. Most if not all intelligent creatures manipulate to some extent.
swingaleg
16-12-2004
In other words she was playing a bit of a sly game.......trying to manipulate the others.........OMG, we'll be accusing her of playing to win, or other heinous crimes, next.

I think in the context of BB trying to manipulate the other HMs is part of the game

I think we are on safer ground having a go at her for being dull and uninteresting, which is surely the biggest BB crime as far as us, the viewers, are concerned.

In any case I thought Jason was more pervy around the women than Ahmed........
Electra
16-12-2004
Originally Posted by mrfreeze:
“So your saying it's ok for Shell to belittle what real victims of perverts have to go through, just to win a gameshow?”

Aren't you over-reacting just a teeny weeny bit?
Mabelle
16-12-2004
Originally Posted by mrfreeze:
“Lot's of unhealthy relationships last, it's called being 'co dependant'.”

Codependancy is an excellent basis for a relationship between codependent people.
koantemplation
16-12-2004
Originally Posted by Mabelle:
“"manipulate" is a very loaded word. Most if not all intelligent creatures manipulate to some extent.”

She was being 'manipulative' by any definition.
Even if she did really think Ahmed was a perv she was just using the fact against him and get sympathy for herself, to win a game.
anna123
16-12-2004
the title of this topic should say " a thread for shell haters"
Last edited by anna123 : 16-12-2004 at 22:48
john-john
16-12-2004
I think that was the general idea.
Electra
16-12-2004
Originally Posted by mrfreeze:
“She was being 'manipulative' by any definition.
Even if she did really think Ahmed was a perv she was just using the fact against him and get sympathy for herself, to win a game.”

She wanted to win? What a bitch!
anna123
16-12-2004
Originally Posted by john-john:
“I think that was the general idea.”

i still think it should have been stated abit more clearly
Mabelle
16-12-2004
Originally Posted by mrfreeze:
“She was being 'manipulative' by any definition.
Even if she did really think Ahmed was a perv she was just using the fact against him and get sympathy for herself, to win a game.”

Ahmed wasn't going to win, was he? I don't think winnig it ever came into the equation.
koantemplation
16-12-2004
Originally Posted by Mabelle:
“Ahmed wasn't going to win, was he? I don't think winnig it ever came into the equation.”

Eh? just because he might not have won doesnt mean she didnt want to hedge her bets.
Electra
16-12-2004
Can anyone give me the name of one housemate (I'll take Emma as a given) who didn't, at some point, manipulate?
koantemplation
16-12-2004
Originally Posted by Electra:
“Can anyone give me the name of one housemate (I'll take Emma as a given) who didn't, at some point, manipulate?”

Not to the same level as Shell.
And the old 'she wasnt the only one' ploy won't work here.
Electra
16-12-2004
I'll take that as a 'no' then shall I?
EddyBee
16-12-2004
Originally Posted by Electra:
“Shell has had the same boyfriend for several years who she clearly adores. That sounds pretty healthy to me.”

If that's what Shell wants, that's fine. But why is it any more healthy than a woman who perhaps has had a several boyfriends?
EddyBee
16-12-2004
Originally Posted by Electra:
“It was a competition for heavens sake! They all tried to manipulate at one point or another. ”

Actually some didn't !

In any case Shell was the most manipulativer in that House.

Poor little me! Poor little me! Oh cameraman what about poor little me!!!
EddyBee
16-12-2004
Originally Posted by swingaleg:
“ ... In any case I thought Jason was more pervy around the women than Ahmed........”

Agreed. But Shell didn't mind him.
EddyBee
16-12-2004
Originally Posted by Electra:
“Aren't you over-reacting just a teeny weeny bit?”

You mean rather like Shell over-reacted when she got her exam results :yawn: ... my oh my did she milk that for all it was worth. Come on Shell! Think front page! Get your kit off!
EddyBee
16-12-2004
Originally Posted by mrfreeze:
“She was being 'manipulative' by any definition.
Even if she did really think Ahmed was a perv she was just using the fact against him and get sympathy for herself, to win a game.”

The point is that Shell freely elected to behave in a manner that would appeal to 'pervs' on the outside.
EddyBee
16-12-2004
Originally Posted by Electra:
“Can anyone give me the name of one housemate (I'll take Emma as a given) who didn't, at some point, manipulate?”

Kitten. Possibly Dan.
koantemplation
16-12-2004
Originally Posted by EddyBee:
“Agreed. But Shell didn't mind him. ”

That's because Jason was seen as an 'alpha' male, and being P/A Shell latched on to him and Dan in order to up her status in the social hierachy.
koantemplation
16-12-2004
Originally Posted by EddyBee:
“The point is that Shell freely elected to behave in a manner that would appeal to 'pervs' on the outside.”


It didn't appeal to me.
Electra
16-12-2004
Originally Posted by EddyBee:
“Kitten. Possibly Dan. ”

I'll agree with Kitten. To be honest I'd forgotten about her.
anna123
16-12-2004
Originally Posted by EddyBee:
“You mean rather like Shell over-reacted when she got her exam results :yawn: ... my oh my did she milk that for all it was worth. Come on Shell! Think front page! Get your kit off! ”

aww comeon thats a little unfair she'd just found out she got a first in her uni degree! I graduate next year and i know for fact if i do as well as she did (which i doubt i will more likely to get a 2-1 if im lucky!) Then id react in the exact same way!
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