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Old 20-11-2012, 06:08
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So i figured to try and decipher who would leave if they were in the bottom two 2nd guessing the judges who have already made their stances fairly clear.

Bottom two Union J & Rylan = Rylan gone
Bottom two Christopher & Union J = Christopher gone
Bottom two Jahmene & Union J = Union J gone
Bottom two Union J & James = Union J gone

Bottom two Jahmene & Rylan = Rylan gone
Bottom two Jahmene & James Arthur = Jahmene gone
Tulisa & Gary would opt to save James Nicole wouldn't vote..possible deadlock.
Bottom two Jamene & Chris = Chris gone

Bottom two Chris & anyone = Chris gone

James vs Anyone = Them gone

So basically no need for a sing off i just forecast the outcome
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Old 20-11-2012, 06:50
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I think if either Rylan or Christopher are in the bottom two the judges will vote them out.
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Old 20-11-2012, 07:27
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Which week does the bottom 2 cease to exist?
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Old 20-11-2012, 07:28
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Which week does the bottom 2 cease to exist?
Used to be the last five, then it went to last four- in 2010 they used the bottom 2 in the semi final to ensure Cher got through. So it depends on who's doing better in the vote, I suppose.
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Old 20-11-2012, 08:19
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Hoping for a Union J versus James bottom 2 in the hope that Union J will go first.
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Old 20-11-2012, 08:34
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If James A and Jahmene are in the bottom 2 next Saturday, its definately time to pull the plug on the show. it was bad enough having James A and Ella!
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Old 20-11-2012, 08:55
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A Chris v Jahmene sing-off would be my preference.

Because Chris would definitely go, and because then everybody would have hit the bottom two and the competition would be more ~open.
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Old 20-11-2012, 09:07
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I think if either Rylan or Christopher are in the bottom two the judges will vote them out.
I agree, and if it's Chris AND Rylan then Chris will go
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Old 20-11-2012, 09:50
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It won't be Chris. I've given up on him ever reaching the bottom two. I reckon it'll be Rylan and someone else. And Rylan will leave. (She said again, for the fourth week running, lol)
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Old 20-11-2012, 09:52
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Jahmene and Union J.
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Old 20-11-2012, 09:56
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I dont think it'll be either Chris or Rylan. The 'Protest vote' I feel has really taken hold and the next big 2 ( Jahmene and James ) could well be there. Sounds far fetched, but so was a James and Ella bottom 2. In my opinion anyway.

I actually believe the 'rumours' Chris is topping the votes. That puts Jahmene in a wobbly position
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Old 20-11-2012, 09:57
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"Decipher"?

Easy conclusion, I'd have thought...
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Old 20-11-2012, 10:12
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I think Jahmene is the one they'd save over anyone. He's got a nice voice, he's not been there before. Union J and James are the ones who are most chart ready but if they hit the bottom two again, the old "you've been here before," will be wheeled out.
To be honest; even though he is my favourite, I thought they were going to throw James under the bus on Sunday to save the producers Plan A.
Jahmenes got that "safe" style the public like in a winner.
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Old 20-11-2012, 11:04
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Nicole is probably too professional to refuse to vote. Besides, I don't think she gets as emotionally invested as Tulisa or Louis does in their acts. Louis is sometimes on the verge of crying when he needs to vote and Tulisa looked she's ready to smash up objects when Ella was voted out.
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Old 20-11-2012, 11:18
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Nicole is probably too professional to refuse to vote. Besides, I don't think she gets as emotionally invested as Tulisa or Louis does in their acts. Louis is sometimes on the verge of crying when he needs to vote and Tulisa looked she's ready to smash up objects when Ella was voted out.
Nicole definitely gets emotionally invested, she looked almost in tears on Sunday stood on the stage after Rylan got through and when waiting to hear if James went through.. she was so emotionally invested that she forgot it would be considered unacceptable to say 'effing' before 9pm - demonstrating she can be unprofessional too..
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Old 20-11-2012, 11:23
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It will probably be a Union J vs Rylan bottom 2 with Rylan going.

Rumours throughout have all pointed to Christopher & Jahmene being well ahead of everyone else. James will get the rebound vote.
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Old 20-11-2012, 11:27
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It will probably be a Union J vs Rylan bottom 2 with Rylan going.

Rumours throughout have all pointed to Christopher & Jahmene being well ahead of everyone else. James will get the rebound vote.
Wouldn't be surprised if you're underestimating Union J, they're going to be doing better with District 3 out of the show. I agree James will be safe, as will Jahmene. I know i'ts probably wishful thinking, but we could lose Christopher..
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Old 20-11-2012, 11:28
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Wouldn't be surprised if you're underestimating Union J, they're going to be doing better with District 3 out of the show. I agree James will be safe, as will Jahmene. I know i'ts probably wishful thinking, but we could lose Christopher..
You could argue last week was a vote bump due to the week before bottom 2 appearance.

If they get through this week (ie out of the bottom 2) then I think though you maybe right

However at the moment I cant see anything past a UJ vs Rylan bottom 2
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Old 20-11-2012, 11:31
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You could argue last week was a vote bump due to the week before bottom 2 appearance.

If they get through this week (ie out of the bottom 2) then I think though you maybe right

However at the moment I cant see anything past a UJ vs Rylan bottom 2
I doubt any of us saw James and Ella this week.. I suspect the voting is very tight at the moment.
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Old 20-11-2012, 11:32
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I doubt any of us saw James and Ella this week.. I suspect the voting is very tight at the moment.
I thought Ella was a possibility, but not James.

But yes I think barring Jahmene (and possibly Chris) its all very close at the moment.
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Old 20-11-2012, 11:34
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I thought Ella was a possibility, but not James.

But yes I think barring Jahmene (and possibly Chris) its all very close at the moment.
I hope that Chris isn't too far ahead of the pack, I suspect there's a strong anti-Chris vote coming his way if he makes final two - based on the booing we've heard.
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Old 20-11-2012, 12:02
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If it would ever come down to Christopher v Rylan in bottom two (I won't count my chickens) all judges other than Gary would send Christopher home. I think.

Tulisa doesn't want to be the only judge with no acts left and she has payback to Gary coming, although so it is if she hadn't made sure Rylan stayed a few weeks ago, then she probably may not have lost Ella.

Christopher is a threat to everyone else's acts, so Louis (we know he despises him, the press continually tells us so ) would boot him, and Nicole wants the distinction of keeping up appearances of not losing an act at all so far into the competition, so she'd want Christopher gone.

Plus, I do believe none of the judges, including Gary, like Christopher at all. Gary is going to rely on (and welcome) the other judges getting rid of the embarrassment that is Maloney to the X Factor and to Gary as his mentor. Gary must be heartily sick and humiliated of talking up Christopher through gritted teeth every week. He had the mortification of last year talking up Frankie and then having to climb down sharpish and admit he didn't think much of Frankie's abilities at all.

To be sure Gary's tour of duty on the X Factor has done little for his credibility which is a grand shame as far as I'm concerned. I really like Gary. It's high time he bowed out of this mess and didn't darken X Factor's doors again after this year. He has to limp on through to the end now and I'm sure he'll be hoping he won't be limping with Christopher metaphorically attached to his leg. Then he can continue to go great gusto cheering on James Arthur.

Personally I'm not a supporter of James. Nor any of them any more other than Rylan. If Lucy Spraggan was still there I'd be all for her winning, but I think she's fine and her career is building day by day as she announces appearance dates and suggested on twitter this morning she may not be doing the X Factor tour but instead using the time touring for herself and making a new album

But I digress: back to my wish For Christopher Maloney being out this coming weekend and how it may happen.

Unfortunately I suspect from 'leaks' regarding voting Christopher won't be in the bottom two, so X Factor is stuck with him.

Unfortunately, also, I would believe if Rylan Clark is in the bottom two he'll be the one to go against anyone other than Christopher Maloney.
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Old 20-11-2012, 12:08
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Unfortunately, also, I would believe if Rylan Clark is in the bottom two he'll be the one to go against anyone other than Christopher Maloney.
Yes I think the saving pecking order is...

1. Jahmene
2. James
3. UJ
4. Rylan
5. Christopher
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Old 20-11-2012, 12:13
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Yes I think the saving pecking order is...

1. Jahmene
2. James
3. UJ
4. Rylan
5. Christopher
I'd switch around James and Jahmene, Gsry already said that James is his favourite and James is closer to Tulisa's 'urban roots'
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Old 20-11-2012, 12:16
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I hope that Chris isn't too far ahead of the pack, I suspect there's a strong anti-Chris vote coming his way if he makes final two - based on the booing we've heard.
Do you believe the Booing in the audience from a bunch of more than likely rent-a-mob ( if the Producers recent tactics ) are anything to go by, reflects the phone voting for Chris? I don't buy it one little bit.

( Remember Aaron in Big Brother's Boos? ) Romped home to win though.

We never see where the booing is coming from on the X Factor, in fact when the cameras pan out you see the most strangest thing, everybody sitting relatively quiet!

The Daily Star has been reporting in recent weeks how Chris was topping the votes and Ella was struggling, they even hinted that another favourite ( I reckon James ) was also struggling for votes. I actually believe all this now. The fact Chris hasn't even been in the bottom 2 speaks volumes.

The most telling point for me tho now is the fact Louis has gone on the official website to say Chris shouldn't win. This also speaks volumes. Had Chris just been scraping by each week in the voting they wouldn't need to do this as surely he would be nearer to going. Louis doing this tells me Chris is indeed topping the votes and they're panicking like hell.
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