The Ratings Thread (Part 43)

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F1Ken

15-12-2012

Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“You could say ITV is at its strongest in the late autumn when they have TXF and IAC, but when these finish, they are left wanting. Usually BBC One is at its strongest in the spring and summer, when ITV seems to give up. I wouldn't write BBC One off as they always seem strong now, but this autumn the new series of New Tricks was well below par, The Hunted promised so much but turned out to be a flop in more than one sense and The Young Apprentice has been a blatant cash in and viewers have seen through it. Also EE is in a ratings slump and has fallen to third at times in the soap ratings.”

Both channels have had some howlers this year if you look back.

Ken

F1Ken

15-12-2012

Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“Am I right in thinking Dec 31st is the end of the BBC's financial year, so one suspects they've simply run out of cash as they don't have to account for programmes until broadcast, hence the strong January.”

That's a good point. It certainly looks like they have run out of money!

What treats are we in for next week!

Ken

Glenn A

15-12-2012

Originally Posted by F1Ken:
“Both channels have had some howlers this year if you look back.

Ken”

Let's not forget Superstar, the most overhyped flop of the year, the idiot who decided Red or Black deserved another series, The Biggest Loser becoming the most apt title for a show and Let's Get Gold. However, The Hunted must have been the biggest letdown as it was touted as the new Spooks and really failed to deliver.

ftv

15-12-2012

Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“Let's not forget Superstar, the most overhyped flop of the year, the idiot who decided Red or Black deserved another series, The Biggest Loser becoming the most apt title for a show and Let's Get Gold. However, The Hunted must have been the biggest letdown as it was touted as the new Spooks and really failed to deliver.”

You've obviously overlooked the Royal Bodyguard out of sympathy

F1Ken

15-12-2012

It seems a long time ago but The Royal Bodyguard has to also be one off the greatest disappointments on TV ever.

Boy the flops have really flopped this year.

Ken

Glenn A

15-12-2012

Originally Posted by F1Ken:
“It seems a long time ago but The Royal Bodyguard has to also be one off the greatest disappointments on TV ever.

Boy the flops have really flopped this year.

Ken”

David Jason's jump the shark moment, it promised so much but delivered so little. Mind you last year saw some real disasters like Don't Scare The Hare and Born to Shine, not to mention yet another revival of Shipwrecked, which limped into this year with 400,000 viewers. Of course, my real sense of schadenfreude came with Katie Price's move to Living and seeing her show struggle to reach 100,000 viewers.

F1Ken

15-12-2012

Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“David Jason's jump the shark moment, it promised so much but delivered so little. Mind you last year saw some real disasters like Don't Scare The Hare and Born to Shine, not to mention yet another revival of Shipwrecked, which limped into this year with 400,000 viewers. Of course, my real sense of schadenfreude came with Katie Price's move to Living and seeing her show struggle to reach 100,000 viewers.”

That was the worst program I have ever seen on BBC One. I think it has damaged them to be honest. No Confidence in entertainment at all.

Ken

Glenn A

15-12-2012

Originally Posted by F1Ken:
“That was the worst program I have ever seen on BBC One. I think it has damaged them to be honest. No Confidence in entertainment at all.

Ken”

It was such a disaster for David Jason whose had over 30 years of ratings hits. Little remembered now is The Darling Buds of May, which attracted 18 million viewers. ( People always seem to think OFAH as a massive hit, but its first series only attracted 3 million viewers and it didn't take ofdf until series 3.)

Chris1964

15-12-2012

Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“It was such a disaster for David Jason whose had over 30 years of ratings hits. Little remembered now is The Darling Buds of May, which attracted 18 million viewers. ( People always seem to think OFAH as a massive hit, but its first series only attracted 3 million viewers and it didn't take ofdf until series 3.)”

No first run episode of OFAH ever got as low as 3 million(and probably never has in any repeated episode on BBC1 in primetime). The first series averaged 7.7 million viewers with a high of 9.2 million and a low of 6.1 million. That 6.1 million was the lowest rated episode ever (Go West Young Man-episode 2 of series 1).

Glenn A

15-12-2012

Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“No first run episode of OFAH ever got as low as 3 million(and probably never has in any repeated episode on BBC1 in primetime). The first series averaged 7.7 million viewers with a high of 9.2 million and a low of 6.1 million. That 6.1 million was the lowest rated episode ever (Go West Young Man-episode 2 of series 1).”

How times change, it would be classed as a hit these days with 6 million. However, for all the first series was good, it wasn't until series 3 that the show really established itself and by 1986 it was THE sitcom.

iaindb

15-12-2012

Originally Posted by F1Ken:
“Both channels have had some howlers this year if you look back.

Ken”

Both channels have howlers every year. Such is the nature of television.

Glenn A

15-12-2012

Originally Posted by iaindb:
“Both channels have howlers every year. Such is the nature of television.”

It's as old as the hills. If you want to get into a row with Alasdair Milne, just mention some real BBC horrors from the eighties like Triangle. Also I think Michael Green will take a swing at you if Celebrity Wrestling is mentioned.

iaindb

15-12-2012

Anyone know what sort of peak ratings SPOTY has had in the past when the winner is announced? Just wondering what the chances were of it getting a higher peak tomorrow than X Factor got for its result last Sunday. I suspect low, though it's not without assistance from ITV. They've put the News on between 9.45 and 10 just as SPOTY reaches its climax so even viewers of The Making Of A Lady would be able to see the result announced.

iaindb

15-12-2012

Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“It's as old as the hills. If you want to get into a row with Alasdair Milne, just mention some real BBC horrors from the eighties like Triangle. Also I think Michael Green will take a swing at you if Celebrity Wrestling is mentioned.”

Back in the 1970s the BBC's epic drama project Churchill's People was an epic fail

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Churchill%27s_People

And in 1978 we had the disastrous sitcom Come Back, Mrs Noah.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Come_Back_Mrs._Noah

David Croft was a very astute comedy producer most of the time, but a sci-fi sitcom starring Mollie Sugden? What on earth was he thinking?

RobbieSykes123

15-12-2012

Originally Posted by iaindb:
“Anyone know what sort of peak ratings SPOTY has had in the past when the winner is announced? Just wondering what the chances were of it getting a higher peak tomorrow than X Factor got for its result last Sunday. I suspect low, though it's not without assistance from ITV. They've put the News on between 9.45 and 10 just as SPOTY reaches its climax so even viewers of The Making Of A Lady would be able to see the result announced.”

It's peaked at 12m before now, but I think that is optimistic for tomorrow.

I would be disappointed if it didn't touch 10m though.

iaindb

15-12-2012

Complaints were made in this thread about the BBC1 Christmas idents (which is why I'm posted this comment here when it really belongs in the Christmas TV thread

) but have you seen the BBC2 Christmas ident? Nice.

Now I know why BBC1's idents are so cheap-looking. BBC2 obviously got to the Christmas petty cash box first.

Hassaan13

15-12-2012

Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“It's peaked at 12m before now, but I think that is optimistic for tomorrow.

I would be disappointed if it didn't touch 10m though.”

Has SPOTY ever gotten 10m before?

RobbieSykes123

15-12-2012

Originally Posted by iaindb:
“Complaints were made in this thread about the BBC1 Christmas idents (which is why I'm posted this comment here when it really belongs in the Christmas TV thread) but have you seen the BBC2 Christmas ident? Nice.

Now I know why BBC1's idents are so cheap-looking. BBC2 obviously got to the Christmas petty cash box first.”

Not really. They are re using last years.

Might as well repeat the idents, everything else on 2 is...

Originally Posted by Hassaan13:
“Has SPOTY ever gotten 10m before?”

Not sure. If you search out the relevant part of the Thread from 12 months ago, I'm pretty sure someone posted a comprehensive list going back at least 10 years.

Hassaan13

15-12-2012

Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Not sure. If you search out the relevant part of the Thread from 12 months ago, I'm pretty sure someone posted a comprehensive list going back at least 10 years.”

Just did. Turns out the 2010 show peaked with over 12m.

It'll be really interesting if it can pull in those numbers considering last year's show slumped to 4m.

Glenn A

15-12-2012

Originally Posted by iaindb:
“Back in the 1970s the BBC's epic drama project Churchill's People was an epic fail

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Churchill%27s_People

And in 1978 we had the disastrous sitcom Come Back, Mrs Noah.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Come_Back_Mrs._Noah

David Croft was a very astute comedy producer most of the time, but a sci-fi sitcom starring Mollie Sugden? What on earth was he thinking?”

Ho ho, Churchill's People, struggled to get 3 million viewers, cost £ 3 million to make and the sets resembled a daytime Australian soap. Bet a few heads rolled for that one.
Come Back Mrs Noah, frightening, but there were some really dreadful sitcoms around at the time as well as the classics. Tuning into ITV at 8 on Monday was often a laugh free sitcom slot.

Re-Minder

15-12-2012

Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“Ho ho, Churchill's People, struggled to get 3 million viewers, cost £ 3 million to make and the sets resembled a daytime Australian soap. Bet a few heads rolled for that one.
Come Back Mrs Noah, frightening, but there were some really dreadful sitcoms around at the time as well as the classics. Tuning into ITV at 8 on Monday was often a laugh free sitcom slot.”

ITV had its own expensive ratings turkey The Brett's, a good ensemble but weak script and studio bound sets that were dodgy, cost 13 million I read somewhere, an eighties disaster.

Andy23

15-12-2012

ITV seem to be running early tonight as Take Me Out has just finished almost 10 mins early. Something to bear in mind.

Hassaan13

15-12-2012

Originally Posted by Andy23:
“ITV seem to be running early tonight as Take Me Out has just finished almost 10 mins early. Something to bear in mind.”

Don't these shows always? The likes of The Cube always seem to finish 7-8 minutes early for some weird reason.

D.M.N.

15-12-2012

Originally Posted by Andy23:
“ITV seem to be running early tonight as Take Me Out has just finished almost 10 mins early. Something to bear in mind.”

Why is it something to bare in mind when we receive tape-checked ratings?

Andy23

15-12-2012

Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Why is it something to bare in mind when we receive tape-checked ratings? ”

I thought the supplier didn't tape check on weekends?

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