DOND slipping behind now. My family, who've watched it since the start, now think it's on its last legs and the rupee stunt was really scraping the barrel.
TM hovering around the million mark, even though it's Schofield's day off. I wonder if the fallout from the interview with the PM is harming the show now.

What are the predictions for XF this weekend?

Considering it's the quarter finals, and looking at the weather , I can't see it going below 8m, but it could near 9m, and near 10m for the results. Exact predictions are:

Performance show - 8.7m and 9.8m peak

Results show - 9.7m and 11.8m peak.

Wouldn't BBC One be better to put their no.1 show, SCD out at 9pm against Downton on Xmas Day ? People stay up later on Xmas Day, so it doesn't really matter it's so late.

Something like :

18:00 Doctor Who
19:00 Eastenders
20:00 Call the Midwife
21:00 Strictly Come Dancing
22:30 Mrs Browns Boys

The soaps always rate higher on a Monday night I am not sure what your point is.

Mon-Fri EE dropped around 700k across the full week. Corrie dropped by the same amount between just two episodes - Monday's and Wednesdays.

EE didn't drop at all between Thursday and Friday (7.3m) and the drop between Monday (8m) and Tuesday (7.7m) and Tuesday and Thursday was minimal. EE's drop across the week is staggered 8m - 7.7m - 7.3m and perfectly normal. Other soaps drop far more sharply yet I don't see you commenting on this.

Clearly the storyline must have interested those who tuned in for the drops to be so minimal with no drop at all between Thursday and Friday.

Last night's figure was 500k up on the show's last Friday episode and to draw even with Thursday and stay respectfully within the 7m range is good for EE on a Friday night, traditionally its weakest night.

Nobody has ever claimed there's no drop-off for EE across the week it happens for all soaps, all anyone has ever said to you is that it is perfectly normal and not a case of the show hemorrhaging viewers as you would have us believe.

In response to Lousiana's point about soaps, for all the soaps are until 9.00 on Fridays as well, this is the night when many people go out and ratings are lower. Also on Mondays, which has been soap night since 1960 when CSt first appeared, the pubs are often closed, no one has much inclination to go out anyway in winter and this is where the soaps do the best.
Also Mondays has always been ITV's strongest night and if BBC One didn't start showing EE on Mondays 18 years ago, they'd have been sunk totally as ITV would have something strong in the 8.00 slot( traditionally a sitcom).

I don't think anyone really gves a shit anymore

You don't half talk some rubbish.

Still their number one show of the day though!! Isn't everything on C4 slipping behind now?

Only Homeland seems to be holding its own, but at least a third of its viewers aren't even watching the ads that pay for the show!

Strictly really isn't suited to post-watershed, it's perfect for early evening.

I'd go for something like this;

17:30 - Doctor Who
18:30 - Eastenders
19:00 - Strictly
20:30 - Miranda
21:00 - Eastenders
21:30 - The Royle Family
22:30 - Mrs Brown's Boys

I don't think the Beeb can have a better mix of shows after 9pm. The choice at 9pm will be BBC1 or ITV1. The floating viewer has to decide between 3 shows or Downton. Add in the fact Downton will be littered with ads too then I would expect people to stick with BBC1 and catch up with Downton if interested.

Before 9pm, timings could be altered but I'd stick with that generally, not sure I would have put Miranda in but C.M.W. says its being shown on the day.

Do I really, you need to grow up and accept that I have every right to air my opinion, Jesus just accept people are going to criticise EE and its poor ratings, a big so called storyline and still lagging way behind Corrie and only just ahead of Emmerdale. If you feel that's acceptable then fine but don't eat a cow when others talk about it.

In the last eight weeks on first showings EE has only broken 8 million twice, it's November and a few days from darkest December and it should be improving ratings wise but its not.

I've got some consolidated figures from last Friday (Children in Need night):

Pointless Celebrities - 3.07m (18.4%), peaking with 4.48m (24.7%) in the last five minutes
The One Show - 4.99m (21.9%)
Children in Need (19:30-22:00) - 8.22m (31%), peaking with 10.07m (40.1%) at 20:05
Children in Need (22:00-22:40) - 3.81m (16.7%)
Children in Need (22:40-02:00) - 3.22m (33.9%), only 792k (30.4%) were watching in the last five minutes.

I really, really hope BBC One's Christmas Day lineup goes something like this

15:00 The Queen
15:10 Film: Up
16:45 BBC News
17:00 Room on the Broom
17:30 Strictly Come Dancing
19:00 Doctor Who
20:00 EastEnders
20:30 Miranda
21:00 EastEnders
21:30 The Royle Family
22:30 Mrs Brown’s Boys
23:00 BBC News

It would be insane for them to put Call the Midwife on Christmas Day, it has Boxing Day written all over it.

Where do you get the ratings from Hassan?

Would they really schedule Strictly at 17:30?

From Attentional.

No they probably wouldn't, I only put SCD at 5:30pm purely to fit everything in. What I'm thinking is they'll show Miranda on Boxing Day in order for SCD to start at 6pm.

Yep blaming EE for the performance of Young Apprentice which has never been as popular as its adult counterpart says it all. Lead-ins rarely have the impact that is often assumed on here.

EE's ratings may not be spectacular but they are consistent.

Probably right, though I did not think it was as bad as 1.72 million and beaten by Bargain Hunt bad. It was warm hearted and actually funny in parts imo but without the captive audience of yesteryear ideas have to work very hard to gain a footing with an audience which has a million other things that might be better to do these days.

Just in case anyone's interested, ITV1's top 10 this year looks like this: (figures include HD and +1)

1 - (19/06) UEFA Euro 2012 - England vs Ukraine: 16.31m (57.3%), *peak: 18.69m (60.9%)
2 - (12/05) Britain's Got Talent Final: 13.12m (48.8%), *peak: 15.67m (54.8%)
3 - (11/06) UEFA Euro 2012 - England vs France: 12.64m (57%), *peak: 15.38m (59.9%)
4 - (23/01) Coronation Street: 12.51m (45%)
5 - (14/04) Britain's Got Talent: 12.18m (43.7%), *peak: 13.98m (51.3%)
6 - (31/03) Britain's Got Talent: 12.17m (44.4%), *peak: 13.77m (50.6%)
7 - (04/11) Downton Abbey: 12.15m (40.6%)
8 - (23/09) Downton Abbey: 12.08m (39.8%)
9 - (21/10) Downton Abbey:

There's criticising and there's coming across as some obsessed with the show failing and having serious issues with the people involved. Everyone knows EE isn't doing well, constantly repeating the same grievances is just boring and repetitive.

RIP indeed.

Portrayed a truly iconic tv character

They are only repeats if you've seen them before though, you'd have to be very lazy to have seen every Home under the Hammer episode.


Yes but you and others have been saying that the BBC shows outrate ITV by a significant amount for quite a while now. It is news to us that they are actually quite close.


The ratings will be the same as every week, there won't be any uplift or decline


So you are basically saying that BBC1 will only win against Downton because they don't show any adverts...?

If presenters had anything to do with ratings surely for both Daybreak and Lorraine they'd be plummeting every Friday when Kate Garraway presents - but sadly the stats show they actually rise on Fridays.

ITV's only chance now of regaining ground at breakfast is for the BBC to make some unpopular changes - but that's not going to happen anytime soon and the two main presenting teams are as popular as each other with viewers.

I was talking more about your theory thats its effecting other shows, infact if you look back and read my older posts i did actually say EE's rating was poor and i don't even watch it, that said i'm sure people wouldn't stop watching YA or Holby just because EE is shite

The problem with Channel 4 is they have a set of ageing programmes that they're flogging to death. I know ITV have some ageing formats, but these continue to do well and aren't shown 24/7 like on Channel 4. DOND, CDWM, Coach Trip and all the endless lifestyle shows never seem to be off and viewers are losing interest.