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Old 21-11-2012, 13:14
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I think it's good that we have both of those channels (as well as CITV)

but as someone who grew up watching

Going Live
Saturday Superstore
broom cupboard (Phil/Andy C/Andi P)
Blue Peter only being on twice a week

it's a shame that children's programming is being ghetto-ised into digital channels. Out of sight will lead to out of mind in my opinion

I think it's really bad that both ITV and BBC dumped their Saturday morning kids shows
I agree.

Even though there will be dedicated channels and technically most of the country can access them, it's not quite the same reach as having them on the main channel. Seeing Saturday mornings without a live children's show really is sad. I watched the very first Multi-Coloured Swap Shop in 1976 and still found Saturday shows enjoyable in my late teens.

Sad times.
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Old 21-11-2012, 13:22
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Decent rating for Transgender on BBC Three. Wonder what the ratings for Some Girls are ? I reckon not so good seeing as they aren't posted.
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Old 21-11-2012, 13:22
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As expected Sport's Personality of the year has been extended and I bet it will still run over!
The press office has it provisionally scheduled for 7.35-10.00pm.
Presumably with SCD as its lead in.
After one of the greatest years in British sporting history, Sue Barker, Gary Lineker and Clare Balding present the 2012 BBC Sports Personality of the Year, live from Excel London.

In front of a crowd of over 15,000 people, this star-studded event will feature some of the greatest names in world sport, with the evening culminating in the presentation of one of the most coveted awards in sport, which is chosen by viewers live on the night. There are 12 contenders for the BBC Sports Personality of the Year award this year to reflect such an extraordinary year.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/pro...year-2012.html
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Old 21-11-2012, 13:23
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it's a shame that children's programming is being ghetto-ised into digital channels. Out of sight will lead to out of mind in my opinion
But on the other hand, when kids shows were only on BBC1 there used to be far fewer, for most of the year there were no kids shows on Sunday at all, for example, with adult education on BBC1 and the Open University on BBC2. I remember during the 1992 Olympics there were also no kids shows on Saturday morning, and ITV were showing old films as well. And kids are clearly much happier to go to CBBC to watch them, they seem wildly enthusiastic about what they're offering up and they don't see it as a ghetto at all.
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Old 21-11-2012, 13:37
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What have the kids shows on the main channels been getting recently? the most popular shows on CBBC and CBeebs have been getting about half a million - how does that compare?

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Old 21-11-2012, 13:44
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EE continues to linguish under 8 million, I fear that if it were X-Factor, I would be calling for its axe.The BBC 3 time change doing nothing for it either, which I find really odd.

Talking of BBC 3, always good to see one of its documentary do well, better looking than alot of the natural females on Snog, Marry, Avoid

Last Tango in Halifax has done really well, it was never going to be for me, but it seems to have found a much bigger audience than I expected, wonder what the demos are like on it.

Dara O’Briain’s Science Club doing ok on BBC 2, always good when you can mix a big name with science, hopefully it can grow over time. Always wodnered if BBC 2 or BBC 4 should trail a TV version of Monkey Cage.

Despite being on ITV (and misusing the term "chaser") The Chaser does do really well in that slot, even at the height of chat show wars, neither C4 or ITV were getting those kind of ratings.

The football, looks like a poor performance, from what I understand is a top flight football team, seems odd, but looking at ITV 2, it seems alot of people were very keen on see Im A Celeb... last night, even it meant they having to watch it on ITV 2. I fear for those people.

News episodes of The SImpsons is doing well, despite some dreadful, dreadful cuts this series, one wonders how C4 can air it with a straight face.

Body of Proof looks low, compared to what CSI has been able to get in that timeslot previously, ok its not CSI, but I cant help but feel it should be doing better.
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Old 21-11-2012, 14:16
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Good start for Last Tango, it'll drop a bit but there's not necessarily going to be much overlap with I'm A Celebrity.

Great night for ITV2. Wasn't sure how I'm A Celebrity... Now would do without the main show but that's an excellent rating. And those popstar ob-docs usually don't do much at all so to have one getting 1m is a great result, although it was Cheryl which probably helps. Backed up by a strong performance from ITV3 as well it wasn't a bad night overall for the ITV channels, even if the football didn't do too well.

Fresh Meat close to 1m, the numbers would look so much better if it could just top that mark.

itv seems to lack any shows to screen when strictly is on that would pull in anything above 5 million etc although no other channels seem to bother either so is the reason stricty doing better this year simply down to lack of any challange on any other channel.
When X Factor is on, the BBC can target older people because the young audience is pretty much swallowed up by X Factor. When Strictly is on, it's the opposite and the young audience is the easiest to target for rivals.

The potential old audience is always far higher than the young audience. So shows that go against X Factor tend to have a larger overall audience because they pick up those old people. Whereas Take Me Out against Strictly is focussing on the young end of the market and there aren't as many of them.

Advertisers know this. Delivering old viewers is the easiest thing to do in TV. Which is why advertisers will pay a premium for those who can successfully bring in younger viewers. Hence ITV's strategy with Take Me Out.
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Old 21-11-2012, 14:19
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Despite being on ITV (and misusing the term "chaser") The Chaser does do really well in that slot, even at the height of chat show wars, neither C4 or ITV were getting those kind of ratings.
It's called The Chase, same as that BBC One show about the vets.
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Old 21-11-2012, 14:21
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I will have to see Last Tango on the iplayer or a repeat to make judgement
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Old 21-11-2012, 14:22
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Million more for Tango than I expected.

They got lucky launching opposite itv's expensively unpopular Champions League coverage rather than Celeb which would have crushed it.

It will fall off a cliff next week with Celeb - and the fact it was unutterably dull!
It was a lovely warm Drama!

I don't see what was dull about it.

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Old 21-11-2012, 14:27
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Only one day here, but didn't Jeremy Kyle used to win it's slot?
It depends on what is airing at 9.15 on BBC One, some shows are stronger (Wanted down Under) than others (Heir Hunters). Anyway I'm fairly sure he only won half the slot, HUTH usually wins its slot from 10am.
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Old 21-11-2012, 14:35
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ITV Media confirms that Splash! is airing on Saturday nights in January and will consist of 3 x 75 minute and 2 x 90 minute episodes. So quite a short run of just 5 weeks which is probably a good thing as I don't think it could sustain a longer run. I'm guessing it'll start on January 5th with Takeaway then taking over on February 9th. I think it could potentially do rather well, but it'll lie in the execution.

This is the showreel for the show - if ITV's turns out like this I think it'll be a hit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9AHx59S_d0
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Old 21-11-2012, 14:37
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But on the other hand, when kids shows were only on BBC1 there used to be far fewer, for most of the year there were no kids shows on Sunday at all, for example, with adult education on BBC1 and the Open University on BBC2. I remember during the 1992 Olympics there were also no kids shows on Saturday morning, and ITV were showing old films as well. And kids are clearly much happier to go to CBBC to watch them, they seem wildly enthusiastic about what they're offering up and they don't see it as a ghetto at all.
I agree that there's more choice, it's just a shame that quality isn't the same. Granted I'm not the target audience but rubbish low budget cartoons are the same as watching Baker Street Boys, Johnny Briggs, Wizbit, What's That Noise, Five Children and It, Box of Delights etc etc (I watched a lot telly as a kid )

Heck even the US imports were better (IMO) than they are today - Thundercats, Dungeons & Dragons, Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles.

If I'm off work and channel hopping the stuff I see on children channels looks rubbish compared to what I grew up with in the 80's. However like I said before I'm not the target audience

It would be nice to think that our big 2 channels could still provide childrens programming
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Old 21-11-2012, 14:39
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ITV Media confirms that Splash! is airing on Saturday nights in January and will consist of 3 x 75 minute and 2 x 90 minute episodes. So quite a short run of just 5 weeks which is probably a good thing as I don't think it could sustain a longer run. I'm guessing it'll start on January 5th with Takeaway then taking over on February 9th. I think it could potentially do rather well, but it'll lie in the execution.

This is the showreel for the show - if ITV's turns out like this I think it'll be a hit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9AHx59S_d0
eurgh looks like another Celebrity Wrestling to me

it would have been better to buy the rights to Wipeout
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Old 21-11-2012, 14:41
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eurgh looks like another Celebrity Wrestling to me

it would have been better to buy the rights to Wipeout
Wipeout is a tired format now though. Great in its day but recent ratings haven't been too good and I think people have seen enough of it now.

This has potential, and don't forget Tom Daley is involved which will help.
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Old 21-11-2012, 14:43
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ITV Media confirms that Splash! is airing on Saturday nights in January and will consist of 3 x 75 minute and 2 x 90 minute episodes. So quite a short run of just 5 weeks which is probably a good thing as I don't think it could sustain a longer run. I'm guessing it'll start on January 5th with Takeaway then taking over on February 9th. I think it could potentially do rather well, but it'll lie in the execution.

This is the showreel for the show - if ITV's turns out like this I think it'll be a hit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9AHx59S_d0
It's being filmed at Inspire : Luton Sports Village pool.
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Old 21-11-2012, 14:52
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ITV Media confirms that Splash! is airing on Saturday nights in January and will consist of 3 x 75 minute and 2 x 90 minute episodes. So quite a short run of just 5 weeks which is probably a good thing as I don't think it could sustain a longer run. I'm guessing it'll start on January 5th with Takeaway then taking over on February 9th. I think it could potentially do rather well, but it'll lie in the execution.

This is the showreel for the show - if ITV's turns out like this I think it'll be a hit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9AHx59S_d0
the only way that would be watchable is if there was hungry, killer sharks in the pool.
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Old 21-11-2012, 14:52
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Wipeout is a tired format now though. Great in its day but recent ratings haven't been too good and I think people have seen enough of it now.

This has potential, and don't forget Tom Daley is involved which will help.
I dunno this smacks of ITV's brain trust going "hmm Tom Daley's popular, let's do show about diving"

I reckon this will.... er..... belly flop
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Old 21-11-2012, 14:58
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ITV Media confirms that Splash! is airing on Saturday nights in January and will consist of 3 x 75 minute and 2 x 90 minute episodes. So quite a short run of just 5 weeks which is probably a good thing as I don't think it could sustain a longer run. I'm guessing it'll start on January 5th with Takeaway then taking over on February 9th. I think it could potentially do rather well, but it'll lie in the execution.

This is the showreel for the show - if ITV's turns out like this I think it'll be a hit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9AHx59S_d0
Exactly Who is going to spend 90 minutes of people jumping off Swiiming boards more than once. Sure there maybe the odd entertaining belly flop, they might at the olympics but not every saturday night.
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Old 21-11-2012, 15:04
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Its a mistake showing Splash around the same time as Dancing on Ice. All of Itvs promotional and marketing will be going towards Dancing on Ice, so Splash wont get the promotional push it would've done at a different time of the year like March between the end of Doi and start of BGT. The newspapers will be talking about Doi and Jason Gardiner's comments and they wont be focussing on Splash.
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Old 21-11-2012, 15:07
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Its a mistake showing Splash around the same time as Dancing on Ice. All of Itvs promotional and marketing will be going towards Dancing on Ice, so Splash wont get the promotional push it would've done at a different time of the year. The newspapers will be talking about Doi and Jason Gardiner's comments, and they wont be focussed on Splash.
Dancing on Ice never gets much media attention anyway.

At this time of year for a number of years now X Factor, I'm A Celebrity and Strictly have all been on air and commanding attention at press coverage at the same time. The Voice and BGT both managed masses of coverage in the Spring at the same time. I don't see it as a huge issue.
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Old 21-11-2012, 15:11
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Dancing on Ice never gets much media attention anyway.

At this time of year for a number of years now X Factor, I'm A Celebrity and Strictly have all been on air and commanding attention at press coverage at the same time. The Voice and BGT both managed masses of coverage in the Spring at the same time. I don't see it as a huge issue.
I suppose that is true. Is Splash going to be live? I dont know how theyre going to do a phone vote in just a 75-minute show. I watched the Dutch Splash again recently and for it to work here, they will need to bring more jeopardy into it and improved graphics and production values to suit British tv standards. And it must have a good cast, that is the key to getting people to watch in the first place.
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Old 21-11-2012, 15:16
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I agree that there's more choice, it's just a shame that quality isn't the same....
Some of the kids dramas on CBBC are very good, imo. Wolfblood being an excellent example of the genre...

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edit: good "double version" of the excellent theme tune (I always think that, if they've prdouced a good theme, the quality of the show will be good too!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi83hnObyJ8
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Old 21-11-2012, 15:16
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I suppose that is true. Is Splash going to be live? I dont know how theyre going to do a phone vote in just a 75-minute show. I watched the Dutch Splash again recently and for it to work here, they will need to bring more jeopardy into it and improved graphics and production values to suit British tv standards. And it must have a good cast, that is the key to getting people to watch in the first place.
They can get a phone vote into a 75 minute show - Superstar managed it in the Summer and Popstar To Operastar was getting them into 60 minute shows.

I haven't watched the Dutch version but yeah they'll need to have decent graphics and the cast is always key on these shows, I completely agree with that. A mix of old, young, fit and fat contestants from various different backgrounds will be important.
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Old 21-11-2012, 15:18
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Exactly Who is going to spend 90 minutes of people jumping off Swiiming boards more than once. Sure there maybe the odd entertaining belly flop, they might at the olympics but not every saturday night.
I wonder about this thread sometimes, who is genuinely believes, this will be good or even watchable, at best it will fall into the "its so bad its good" category, at worst, the ratings will take a dive so much deeper than any taken by the so called Celebs taking part.

I will go as far as to say the only good thing about the show, is the chance to making diving based puns, with regrades to ITVs ratings. It will be "Missing Millions" and the "Saturday Night Belly Flop Zone" all over again.

Of course its not just this thread I have to worry about, its ITV as well, but maybe the two are connected, maybe the fact ITV have shown some faith in it, is enough for some.
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