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Reason number one why BBC will not drop EastEnders:
Friday 30th November 2012 - Adults 16 to 34 BBC One 19:00 - The One Show: 475k (14.45%) 19:30 - Nigel Slater's Dish of the Day: 453k (13.0%) 20:00 - EastEnders: 1.37m (37.5%) 20:30 - Outnumbered: 540k (14.1%) 21:00 - Have I Got News For You: 495k (10.9%) 21:30 - John Bishop's Britain: 390k (8.4%) ITV1 (inc +1) 19:00 - Emmerdale: 812k (24.6%) 19:30 - Coronation Street: 1.20m (34.6%) 20:00 - Island Hospital: 321k (8.8%) 20:30 - Coronation Street: 1.30m (34.2%) 21:00 - I'm a Celebrity... Get Me Out of Here!: 1.96m (43.4%) Channel 4 (inc +1) 21:00 - Lee Evans: 310k (6.8%) 22:15 - Alan Carr: Chatty Man: 314k (9.4%) Despite being 2m behind overall, it still is 0.1m ahead of Coronation Street in the key demographic for advertisers. |
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You're sounding like that well known EE hater, Garry Bushell, who seemed to be convinced the show was dying six years ago.
The BBC 3 thing is something I find very odd, cant figure out why those 30 minutes have halved the ratings. Quote:
but maybe if it wasn't so bleak and miserable, people would watch it more.
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Anything for Neighbours at 7pm on Channel 5* ?
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Against DA
![]() Seven million at most. BUT EastEnders came out 9.9m against Downton with 8.4m in the over nights and that was a sunday night at 9:00pm which is a normal slot for DA (obviously it was xmas day) This Year Christmas Eve's EastEnders airs at 9:00pm right after the final of Merlin against weak comp. Downton and EastEnders hardly skew the same and even Xmas day this year it gets a better lead in It's going to be fine and I haven't and haven't had any doubts at all. |
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Reason number one why BBC will not drop EastEnders:
Despite being 2m behind overall, it still is 0.1m ahead of Coronation Street in the key demographic for advertisers.
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What about this..
Read more: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s2...#ixzz2DpEPhkSp I think if the BBC One drama boss is thanking Lorraine for the ''autumns'' output then its her who is behind it all. Keep making excuses and passing the buck onto a guy who suffered a vile vendetta from EE fans but he is no longer there and its time to forget him. Nothing on screen now is his work. I can not understand how he failed at EE yet has the magic touch at HO, |
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Then Mr Kirkwoods name be no longer taken in vain then, Autumn was hellish, was Mr Kirkwood given the support of the production team/Yorke from the outset?
I can not understand how he failed at EE yet has the magic touch at HO, Kirkwood and Yorke 'Were' friends which is how he got the job. |
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People said that last year with the Masood xmas (a much,much weakier storyline)
BUT EastEnders came out 9.9m against Downton with 8.4m in the over nights and that was a sunday night at 9:00pm which is a normal slot for DA (obviously it was xmas day) This Year Christmas Eve's EastEnders airs at 9:00pm right after the final of Merlin against weak comp. Downton and EastEnders hardly skew the same and even Xmas day this year it gets a better lead in It's going to be fine and I haven't and haven't had any doubts at all. As for the bib, its not going to be fine and i say that as a veteran viewer for all its, 27 yrs, I have sat through the highs/lows and according to Newman herself the cross over point has been passed so its her vision on screen yet ratings are in the bog. No excuses, i'm not happy seeing a show that is basically like an old friend die before my eyes because of an incompetent production team. |
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Both are two different shows. He obviously knows Hollyoaks more than EastEnders
Kirkwood and Yorke 'Were' friends which is how he got the job. |
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Reason number one why BBC will not drop EastEnders:
Friday 30th November 2012 - Adults 16 to 34 BBC One 19:00 - The One Show: 475k (14.45%) 19:30 - Nigel Slater's Dish of the Day: 453k (13.0%) 20:00 - EastEnders: 1.37m (37.5%) 20:30 - Outnumbered: 540k (14.1%) 21:00 - Have I Got News For You: 495k (10.9%) 21:30 - John Bishop's Britain: 390k (8.4%) ITV1 (inc +1) 19:00 - Emmerdale: 812k (24.6%) 19:30 - Coronation Street: 1.20m (34.6%) 20:00 - Island Hospital: 321k (8.8%) 20:30 - Coronation Street: 1.30m (34.2%) 21:00 - I'm a Celebrity... Get Me Out of Here!: 1.96m (43.4%) Channel 4 (inc +1) 21:00 - Lee Evans: 310k (6.8%) 22:15 - Alan Carr: Chatty Man: 314k (9.4%) Despite being 2m behind overall, it still is 0.1m ahead of Coronation Street in the key demographic for advertisers. |
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Have I Got News For You started it's run well, but seems to have been dragged down by it's companions over the course of the last few weeks. The number of repeats the BBC has been airing in prime Friday slots has been shocking this year - first endless Mrs Browns Boys and Miranda. Now Outnumbered too. They either need to get behind the night with their big comedies coming in early 2013, or need to find something else that works at the end of the week. They don't really seem to have committed to anything there this year - its non-stop filler and placeholder stuff. |
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Call The Midwife is certain to be the BBC's big Christmas Day hit. EastEnders might benefit from it but it won't top the day this year. I actually think that
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Thats irrelevant as the BBC don't pander to advertisers.
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I didn't realise the ITV Lunchtime News was so low in the ratings. Would it not be a good idea to movie it back to 12.30, with Loose Women at 1pm?
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EE is damaged, the recent ratings are reflecting that and even a good lead in from CTM will not make a difference, the BBC has lost faith in EE, the real battle for number one will be between DA and CTM. Even the Royle Family will struggle
As for the bib, its not going to be fine and i say that as a veteran viewer for all its, 27 yrs, I have sat through the highs/lows and according to Newman herself the cross over point has been passed so its her vision on screen yet ratings are in the bog. No excuses, i'm not happy seeing a show that is basically like an old friend die before my eyes because of an incompetent production team. I have been watching the show since 1990 and while I admit it's not at it's best for me it's not at it's worst either. 1997,2004(from summer) much of 2005 and the whole of 2006 was far worse. As I said above EastEnders has not always been top show on xmas day and I don't even know where people got this from in the first place. So what if EastEnders isn't top show it's not like it will be the first time but I know EastEnders will see a rise during the festive season. I think Thursday 27th December will be the highest rated episode that week with Christmas Eve being next. |
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Its strange how you list 2004 (from summer) and much of 2005 as bad years for EE Dan. I think the general consensus amongst EastEnders fans is that the final half of 2004 was much stronger than the first half which is where all the problems of that year were. EE had more or less recovered from the lull of 2003/2004 by October 2004.
2005 is also regarded as a good year and actually the year EastEnders won more awards than any other year for. There was some problems at the beginning of the year with storylines being scrapped by the caretaker producer but everything had sorted itself out by March. 2006 wasn't action packed but it was far stronger than anything we have seen in 2012. EastEnders is no where near the show it was and watching old episodes on Youtube highlights how far it has dropped its standards. Just the basic writing of the show now is crap compared to just two years ago. |
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Its strange how you list 2004 (from summer) and much of 2005 as bad years for EE Dan. I think the general consensus amongst EastEnders fans is that the final half of 2004 was much stronger than the first half which is where all the problems of that year were. EE had more or less recovered from the lull of 2003/2004 by October 2004.
2005 is also regarded as a good year and actually the year EastEnders won more awards than any other year for. There was some problems at the beginning of the year with storylines being scrapped by the caretaker producer but everything had sorted itself out by March. 2006 wasn't action packed but it was far stronger than anything we have seen in 2012. EastEnders is no where near the show it was and watching old episodes on Youtube highlights how far it has dropped its standards. Just the basic writing of the show now is crap compared to just two years ago. |
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Its strange how you list 2004 (from summer) and much of 2005 as bad years for EE Dan. I think the general consensus amongst EastEnders fans is that the final half of 2004 was much stronger than the first half which is where all the problems of that year were. EE had more or less recovered from the lull of 2003/2004 by October 2004.
2005 was not a bad year at all and they have Tracy-Ann Oberman to thank for that. Obviously everyone's opinion is different, I'm surprised 2003 hasn't been mentioned here as I think it was really boring that year and on a par with 2012 for definite. |
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I appreciate EE is in a crisis right now but the discussion on here has now become hysterical.
Calm down! It pulled 8m on Monday. Not good enough I know but it's not going to be axed! ![]() Ken |
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I would say it's the other way around, the show was riding high in the first half of 2004 thanks to Janine and the story of Barry's death, everything leading up to Janine's exit and the exit itself was top notch. There were bad episodes sure, usually involving the younger characters or the Ferreiras, but it was mostly good. Later in the year I remember it being really bad around the time the Millers joined, more pointless characters being foisted on to the canvas, the press had a field day and rightfully so. The only good thing about the latter half of 2004 was the climax to the half-arsed Martin stalker plot but that was only a couple of episodes.
2005 was not a bad year at all and they have Tracy-Ann Oberman to thank for that. Obviously everyone's opinion is different, I'm surprised 2003 hasn't been mentioned here as I think it was really boring that year and on a par with 2012 for definite. |
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To be fair the press were laying into EastEnders all through 2004 and 2005. However the main EastEnders backlash was most certainly early 2004, reports of Jessie Wallace and Hannah Waterman fighting etc, The Ferreria's being slaughted by the critics day in day out and peaked with the Dirty Den webcam thing that May.
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Reason number one why BBC will not drop EastEnders:
Friday 30th November 2012 - Adults 16 to 34 BBC One 19:00 - The One Show: 475k (14.45%) 19:30 - Nigel Slater's Dish of the Day: 453k (13.0%) 20:00 - EastEnders: 1.37m (37.5%) 20:30 - Outnumbered: 540k (14.1%) 21:00 - Have I Got News For You: 495k (10.9%) 21:30 - John Bishop's Britain: 390k (8.4%) ITV1 (inc +1) 19:00 - Emmerdale: 812k (24.6%) 19:30 - Coronation Street: 1.20m (34.6%) 20:00 - Island Hospital: 321k (8.8%) 20:30 - Coronation Street: 1.30m (34.2%) 21:00 - I'm a Celebrity... Get Me Out of Here!: 1.96m (43.4%) Channel 4 (inc +1) 21:00 - Lee Evans: 310k (6.8%) 22:15 - Alan Carr: Chatty Man: 314k (9.4%) Despite being 2m behind overall, it still is 0.1m ahead of Coronation Street in the key demographic for advertisers. ![]() But I agree they won't drop it (yet). |
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I'm sick of people saying this. Its just not the case. Brian Kirkwood was on longer EastEnders EP from March. The exact same time Dederick Santer stopped being EastEnders EP in 2010. So was all of Xmas 2010 and the start of the baby swap down to Santer??? no it wasn't.
I'm sure it's been stated before that Santer storylined up to Billie's death in October 2010 and that would tie in with Dominic Treadwell-Collins (former Storyliner) name leaving the credits at that time as they both left together to set up a new company. I don't think it's any coincidence that from November 2010 the show's problems started and they have just got progressively worse since then. Quote:
Even Lorraine Newman has said herself in that DS interview that they have passed the cross over story point so I don't know why fans keep saying otherwise. I think the woman in charge should know. John Yorke ALSO said that Lorriane had lined up a great autumn.... his words were one of the most exciting ever to be exact... yet where was it??
Yorke's comment reads like a generic PR soundbite. What're you expecting him to say? He is not going to slag off the programme and talk about how long it's really going to take to sort things out. Ditto Newman's interview with DS; no producer or BBC boss is going to slag off the show whatever they think of its current output. That does not mean they haven't noticed the issues and aren't working to resolve them. |
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I appreciate EE is in a crisis right now but the discussion on here has now become hysterical.
Calm down! It pulled 8m on Monday. Not good enough I know but it's not going to be axed! ![]() Ken |
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I'm sick of people saying this. Its just not the case. Brian Kirkwood was on longer EastEnders EP from March. The exact same time Dederick Santer stopped being EastEnders EP in 2010. So was all of Xmas 2010 and the start of the baby swap down to Santer??? no it wasn't. The same applies here. The way people are going they will be saying all of summer 2013 is down to Kirkwood too and thats why its still crap....
now he was rubbish on EE but the point of blaming Kirkwood for the current storylines has passed.Even Lorraine Newman has said herself in that DS interview that they have passed the cross over story point so I don't know why fans keep saying otherwise. I think the woman in charge should know. John Yorke ALSO said that Lorriane had lined up a great autumn.... his words were one of the most exciting ever to be exact... yet where was it?? |
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