Originally Posted by Belligerence:
“The final used to be the showpiece event for fans because it was one of the few opportunities we got of seeing a match on terrestrial TV. Now, we get a diet of European ties in addition to home internationals.”
I think that's true, it's the same as the Champions League in that the FA Cup was one of the only opportunities for live football on terrestrial TV, even at the start of the century that was all you got. The first two rounds are never going to rate well, though, and I understand that argument that now it's on ITV it doesn't come a poor second to the Premier League, but it means it goes up against the Premier League instead and that's a fight that'll always end one way. You got less FA Cup action when it was part of MOTD, yes, but you also got the goals on the red button for several days and on Football Focus and Final Score, none of which you get now it's on ITV. Same with when it was on Sky, they could bang on about it on Soccer AM and Soccer Saturday and the like.
Not that I expect ITV to look to offload it though as without it and the England games they'd only have the European fare, which would be even less than they had just after they lost the Premier League highlights, because then they had League Cup and Football League highlights too, plus more Champions League games.
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“The first choice should be FTA, but often beyond that the games quickly get less and less appealing (to a mass audience at least), hence if you give too many of them live coverage especially on FTA it quickly appears to be a lower level competition, and although giant killing has always been part of the cup it is really only in the last decade or so that such games have been even considered for live coverage out of the need to broadcast 4-5 matches per round, plus of course selecting a match in the hope of an upset makes any upset less of a surprise anyway.”
One of the reasons why giant-killing matches have been top priority in recent years in that in the past the facilities wouldn't have been good enough for live TV broadcast in any case - plus it used to be the only opportunity to show top flight teams, hence the regular selection of all-top flight ties in the eighties and nineties. I like having two on terrestrial TV because it allows both flavours of cup tie, a big match and a giant-killing game, but five live games a round is too much, not least because it means they get scheduled at increasingly inconvenient times.
Originally Posted by davey_wavey:
“With The X Factor declining, I was wondering could ITV revive Survivor or maybe create a show like 'The Murder Game' which was shown on Saturday nights on BBC1 for one series in the early noughties. One of these could become the next big entertainment hit?”
"Good luck, you are GOING to need it!" I think the problem with that is that British audiences have never really bought into high concept entertainment, the big shows in the UK have always had simple formats. I never thought Survivor was very engaging, it was all po-faced and it never felt particularly essential as it was all safely pre-recorded and edited. The Apprentice is a simple format at heart, and it provides loads of opportunities for the participants to look stupid, whereas on Survivor there are too many contrivances.
Originally Posted by derek500:
“That was a repeat, a compilation of series three.”
And what a bizarre series this has been, five episodes and each one has been incredibly short, barely scraping 25 minutes. Either reams has been cut out (and according to the BBFC website, the BBC submitted two versions, the second all two minutes shorter) or there was some disaster behind the scenes and they pieced the series together from the fragments they managed to salvage.
But I like the way it fits in with the idea of the series as two miserable old gits just doing what they want and if it's too short that's tough.