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Old 23-11-2012, 12:31
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Also has anyone noticed that the ratings for the ECL are 20 pc down this year on last? I think football has taken a knock since the olympics when viewers have seen different sports played by people who aren't only interested in getting £ 200,000 a week. TBH I think football is heading towards the kind of slump it endured in the eighties, this time rather than crowd violence, it's greed and television overkill.
nah, I think Wed will also be the best night for ITV to show matches. Any matches on Tuesday are gonna suffer against EE, Holby and whatever half decent 9pm drama BBC1 has on.

Also ITV has show so really duff matches, not helped by Man Unted (their ratings banker) have such a rubbish group. Match day 6 is gonna be crap for them, with a disinterested Man City and Chelsea relying on other result.

In an ideal world (for ITV) CL matches would kick off at 8pm, that way ITV could conceivably show both Emmers and Corrie before football

Tuesday night is poor for ITV regardless of the programming, since the heydays of The Bill (before it's too numerous revamps)
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Old 23-11-2012, 12:41
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It's a shame ITV can't show the Celtic game. Their gutsy 2-1 win over Barca shows they are a different class to bottlers like Man City. Their next game is must win and you know they will fight all the way to the final whistle.
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Old 23-11-2012, 12:46
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nah, I think Wed will also be the best night for ITV to show matches. Any matches on Tuesday are gonna suffer against EE, Holby and whatever half decent 9pm drama BBC1 has on.

Also ITV has show so really duff matches, not helped by Man Unted (their ratings banker) have such a rubbish group. Match day 6 is gonna be crap for them, with a disinterested Man City and Chelsea relying on other result.

In an ideal world (for ITV) CL matches would kick off at 8pm, that way ITV could conceivably show both Emmers and Corrie before football

Tuesday night is poor for ITV regardless of the programming, since the heydays of The Bill (before it's too numerous revamps)
However, hasn't Wednesday picked up for ITV since the fitba was moved to Tuesday? CSt and Emmerdale now guarantee a big audience and the ultimate nightmare for ITV would be if they still had fitba on Wednesday that rated badly and the Tuesday flopzone.
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Old 23-11-2012, 12:52
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nah, I think Wed will also be the best night for ITV to show matches. Any matches on Tuesday are gonna suffer against EE, Holby and whatever half decent 9pm drama BBC1 has on.

Also ITV has show so really duff matches, not helped by Man Unted (their ratings banker) have such a rubbish group. Match day 6 is gonna be crap for them, with a disinterested Man City and Chelsea relying on other result.

In an ideal world (for ITV) CL matches would kick off at 8pm, that way ITV could conceivably show both Emmers and Corrie before football

Tuesday night is poor for ITV regardless of the programming, since the heydays of The Bill (before it's too numerous revamps)
To be honest I think the current arrangement suits ITV quite nicely.

Football does nearly as well on Tuesday evenings, and it's facing BBC One's rather female-skewed lineup of EastEnders and Holby City. I don't see what other programme could average 4-5m in the 8pm slot versus Holby?

Anyway, it means that Emmerdale and Coronation Street pretty much have free reign in their Wednesday pre-watershed slots - both can be extended to an hour without any real competition from BBC One.

For ITV, it's Thursdays that need sorting out with a nice year-round rota of comedy. Might be worth promoting Celebrity Juice to the 9pm slot, with pre-watershed sitcoms at 8.30pm. There's also the potential for TV Burp repeats at 8.30 to fill in the gaps.

I think ITV should cut back on an episode of Corrie in order to consolidate. Everyone loves the Monday night double but the Friday double should probably go. Two-hour drama repeats all year round on Friday evenings.
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Old 23-11-2012, 12:54
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apologies for the poor grammar/spelling/typos in my previous post

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Old 23-11-2012, 13:01
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For ITV, it's Thursdays that need sorting out with a nice year-round rota of comedy. Might be worth promoting Celebrity Juice to the 9pm slot, with pre-watershed sitcoms at 8.30pm. There's also the potential for TV Burp repeats at 8.30 to fill in the gaps.
The BBC, Ch4, Ch5 and all other channels for that matter like this idea I'd imagine.

Seriously, they'd be doing well to clear 3m with that lineup.
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Old 23-11-2012, 13:16
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A few ratings from yesterday:

EastEnders: 7.33m (33.1%)
Young Apprentice: 3.10m (12.5%)
Hunted: 2.63m (12.5%)

MasterChef: The Professionals: 2.85m (11.5%)
Great Continental Railway Journeys: 2.12m (8.5%)

Emmerdale (7pm): 7.08m (32.9%) , +1: 134k (0.6%)
Emmerdale (8pm): 6.90m (28.4%) , +1: 192k (0.8%)
I'm A Celebrity: 7.96m (31.7%) , +1: 543k (2.7%)

Kirstie's Vintage Home: 1.18m (4.8%) , +1: 192k (0.8%)
The Aristocrats: 1.20m (4.8%) , +1: 205k (1.2%)

World's Strongest Man: 678k (2.7%)
Hatfield and McCoys: 768k (3.1%)

UEFA Europa League Live (17:30-22:35): 1.52m (7.0%)
* peak: 2.46m (9.5%)
Hunted tanked again not surprised though, EE falls again from Tuesday which means that since Monday it has lost nearly a million viewers.
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Old 23-11-2012, 13:21
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19:00 - The One Show: 3.78m (17.6%)
22:00 - BBC News at Ten: 4.22m (21.7%)

17:00 - The Chase: 3.19m (20.6%)
19:30 - Tonight: 2.23m (10.1%)
22:00 - ITV News at Ten: 2.61m (14.0%)
So 5pm ITV1 Quiz Show beats peak time BBC1 drama?
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Old 23-11-2012, 13:27
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On what planet? If he is so popular why did the the show lose so many viewsers in his last series?
Also Dancing On Ice has always had a crap panel, the problems with that show have nothing to do with its judges.
Yeah, I don't think Jason Gardiner is particularly popular - you can compare him with Craig Revel Horwood on Strictly but Craig constantly takes part in the gags and sends himself up, whereas with Jason Gardiner he just comes across as unpleasant. As mentioned, the fact is you simply can't do as much with ice dancing as you can with normal dancing, so it was always going to have a limited shelf life.

P.S. BTW, Text Santa is scheduled on the 21st from 6.55pm-7.00pm, before the soaps, then 8-11pm and 11.45pm-1.15am, with a 45 minute break for news. It doesn't look like it continues on ITV2 during the news, so that's just going to kill it off.
Well, I would assume the post-news bit will just be highlights from earlier in the evening, I wonder if they might just say goodbye at eleven and be done with it. I don't think this scheduling is a bad idea, I like the 6.55 bit as at least it reminds casual viewers that it's on, and it will benefit from being a weekday as the regular shows can blab about it all day. The only problem is that still nobody knows what the hell it is.

It's a shame ITV can't show the Celtic game. Their gutsy 2-1 win over Barca shows they are a different class to bottlers like Man City. Their next game is must win and you know they will fight all the way to the final whistle.
Well, there is always a chance they have to show a dead rubber on the last matchday of the group, that's how it works. The other alternative is a straight knockout but that's also got its own problems for telly as the big teams can go out early doors. Just unfortunate for ITV the last Tuesday matches are a waste of time, if they showed the Wednesday games they'd have either a Chelsea or Celtic match with something riding on it or a Man U match which, though pointless, would feature Man U. Could easily be the other way round next season, though, with Sky having to talk up a load of rubbish.

Quite where we're getting the "fact" from that ratings for the Champions League are down from I don't know, on this very thread two days ago the ratings from last year pointed out most of the matches this season have actually got higher ratings than last season.
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Old 23-11-2012, 13:29
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So 5pm ITV1 Quiz Show beats peak time BBC1 drama?
Yeah, but that's happened before and the other way round too, I'm pretty sure Pointless got higher ratings than Homefront when that was on. And often C4 have got higher ratings in daytime than in primetime.
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Old 23-11-2012, 13:39
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To be honest I think the current arrangement suits ITV quite nicely.

Football does nearly as well on Tuesday evenings, and it's facing BBC One's rather female-skewed lineup of EastEnders and Holby City. I don't see what other programme could average 4-5m in the 8pm slot versus Holby?

Anyway, it means that Emmerdale and Coronation Street pretty much have free reign in their Wednesday pre-watershed slots - both can be extended to an hour without any real competition from BBC One.

For ITV, it's Thursdays that need sorting out with a nice year-round rota of comedy. Might be worth promoting Celebrity Juice to the 9pm slot, with pre-watershed sitcoms at 8.30pm. There's also the potential for TV Burp repeats at 8.30 to fill in the gaps.

I think ITV should cut back on an episode of Corrie in order to consolidate. Everyone loves the Monday night double but the Friday double should probably go. Two-hour drama repeats all year round on Friday evenings.
I agree, the new Tuesday and Wednesday seems to work. OK the football isn't doing as well as it has in previous seasons, but it's getting double some of the programmes were gettring in this slot a year ago, and Wednesdays are now in a far better state than a year ago.
However, I do agree with your Friday night line up. The extra CSt episode is the weakest of the lot and a two hour drama would work well in this slot.
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Old 23-11-2012, 13:42
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Old 23-11-2012, 13:44
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Promos I have seen on tv recently:

- Ripper Street [BBC1]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnhV5K9F39g
- Itv Documentaries [Itv1]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no11AIOXH4A
- Itv News [Itv1]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-CuDkTK-Is
- Daybreak [Itv1]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABNh1RwZs1E
- Dr Brown [C4]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq9lnnaJSrE
- True Stories: Captive the Sex Slave Girl [C4]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd5NnW7leF0
- The Curious Case of the Clark Brothers [C4]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxujSpaPdLw
- The Fear [C4]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8YZfsYj6R4
- Kookyville [C4]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu_wl0ByQIw
- Chris Tarrant Extreme Railways [C5]: http://www.channel5.com/shows/chris-...series-trailer
- Worlds Strongest Man [C5]: http://www.channel5.com/shows/worlds...12/clips/promo
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Old 23-11-2012, 13:53
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Also has anyone noticed that the ratings for the ECL are 20 pc down this year on last? I think football has taken a knock since the olympics when viewers have seen different sports played by people who aren't only interested in getting £ 200,000 a week. TBH I think football is heading towards the kind of slump it endured in the eighties, this time rather than crowd violence, it's greed and television overkill.
I thought it was demonstrated only two days ago on this thread that CL ratings this year are actually up! See the post below.

Here is a comparison between last season and this season's CL

2011/2012

14th Sept '11 BEN v MU (1-1) 5.10m
28th Sept '11 VAL v CHE (1-1) 3.90m
19th Oct '11 MAR v ARS (0-1) 3.70m
2nd Nov '11 VIL v MC (0-3) 3.50m
23rd Nov '11 LEV v CHE (2-1) 3.54m
7th Dec '11 BAS v MU (2-1) 5.40m

2012/2013

18th Sept '12 RMD v MC (3-2) 4.70m
2nd Oct '12 CLU v MU (1-2) 3.70m
23rd Oct '12 MU v BRA (3-2) 4.40m
6th Nov '12 MC v AJA (2-2) 4.01m
20th Nov '12 JUV v CHE (3-0) 3.78m

So far this season is up on last season with the exception of the opening 2 matches. 3 out of 5 have averaged over 4m which is good, but unless ITV manage to score over 5m for the last group match, I doubt they'll be happy. Man Utd and Arsenal will make it through to last 16 (maybe even Celtic and Chelsea too). I think ITV's last group game will be Dortmund v Man City.
I am afraid this is a classic case of wishful thinking. Certain people WANT football to go into a decline so they post that it is happening / will happen.

Is there any evidence to suggest such a decline is actually happening?

- CL viewing figures are dealt with above.

- Have MOTD viewing figures fallen significantly this season? Certainly no such analysis has been presented on this thread.

What about attendances?

Average PL attendance 2011/12 - 34,486

Average PL attendance 2012/13 - 35,803

So this season, post Olympics, average PL attendances are actually UP on last season!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011%E2...Premier_League

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012%E2...Premier_League

EDIT: Apols - hadn't seen Steve Williams post 209 (and for completeness Steve also responded to jda135 two days ago)
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Old 23-11-2012, 14:04
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Sky Atlantic suffered a catastrophic evening...

9pm: Richard E Grant’s Hotel Secrets: 29k (0.1%)
first 5 episodes averaged: 69k (0.2%)
10pm: Falcon: 57k (0.3%)
last week: 261k (1.4%)

But Freddie Flintoff's new series performed okay for Sky1...

9pm: Flintoff: From Lord’s To The Ring: 233k (inc. +1)
slightly below slot average exc. +1

Good News won the slot for BBC Three with 728k (2.9%).

http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/rating...&contentID=870
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Old 23-11-2012, 14:06
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Promos I have seen on tv recently:

- Ripper Street [BBC1]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnhV5K9F39g
Ripper Street must be very soon now the trailer is out. Did you see that on TV? I got an alert it was on the BBC You Tube Channel.
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Old 23-11-2012, 14:40
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Its been a good week for ITV multi-channel. Whilst ITV1 is mopping up, the multi-channels have performed well too.

ITV Media: ITV4 was the most watched digital channel yesterday. With a prime time share of 8.0%, ITV4 was higher than both Channel 4 and Channel 5 last night, it was the channel's 3rd highest prime time share to date. The 2 UEFA Europa League matches between Lazio and Tottenham and Liverpool and BSC Young Boys were watched by 1.5m and 7.1%, peaking with 2.5m and 10%.

Doc Martin adding almost 1m at 9pm on ITV3.
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Old 23-11-2012, 14:56
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Another 5 year high for ITV share price at the close yesterday.

12 month graph:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business/m...elve_month.stm
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Old 23-11-2012, 15:07
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Promos I have seen on tv recently:

- Ripper Street [BBC1]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnhV5K9F39g
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When did they started plugging this again?
10pm: Falcon: 57k (0.3%)
last week: 261k (1.4%)
Ouch
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Old 23-11-2012, 15:12
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10pm: Falcon: 57k (0.3%)
last week: 261k (1.4%)
Think those are wrong. According to The Guardian, last week's opener got 84k.

Wonder if they're looking at the consolidated?

Sky Atlantic crime drama Falcon, which began with 84,000 viewers, a 0.5% share, between 10pm and 11pm.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012...l-4-tv-ratings
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Old 23-11-2012, 15:48
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The Big Bang Theory - 1.27m (5.2%) , +1: 342k (1.4%)
Decent figure for TBBT despite being slightly down on last week but performed decently on +1. I guess it took away viewers from Young Apprentice.

Russell Howard holding up well, being the highest rated show of the day. It was the #1 show on BBC3 for the past two weeks (in the consolidateds) so when the officials for this week come out, it should be on top again.

New series impractical jokers didn't benefit much from the lead-in from Russell Howard, attracting only 339k (1.4%).

Looking at the consolidated's, I've got a consolidated figure of 3.3m (11.6%) for TBBT last week across E4 & +1, and 2.8m (9.9%) without, astounding figures!
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Old 23-11-2012, 16:29
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The Family Fortunes Christmas Special is Daybreak vs Emmerdale
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Old 23-11-2012, 16:41
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The Family Fortunes Christmas Special is Daybreak vs Emmerdale
they really are pimping daybreak to the max
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Old 23-11-2012, 16:47
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The Family Fortunes Christmas Special is Daybreak vs Emmerdale
Interesting. Any info about The Chase Celebrity Special?
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Old 23-11-2012, 16:47
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The Family Fortunes Christmas Special is Daybreak vs Emmerdale
What a daft 'battle'. They aren't even remotely linked. Emmerdale have been on a million times before, and if they insist on using Daybreak then why not make it more applicable and do something like Daybreak vs This Morning/Loose Women or even BBC Breakfast.
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