[worrierprincess]

Obviously all the judges compliment other acts who aren't in their categories but for Gary to say he wants James to win as opposed to Christopher? I found that really odd. I've never heard a judge openly support another act to win over their own if they still have a remaining act in the competition. Even when the judges give their feedback at the end of the performances Gary never seems that enthusiastic about him.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a Christopher fan but I'm starting to think that the rumors of Cowell trying to sabotage his chances of winning is true, everyone connected to the show seems out to get the guy and paint him out to be a horrible person! I kind of want him to win now just to spite the show, they think they can convince the public who to love and who to hate like we don't have minds of our own and aren't able to formulate our own opinions about people so I'd love to see that backfire on them.

[Stormwave UK]

I'm not a Christopher fan either, but by god they are out to get him. I've just watched Xtra Factor from Sunday, and I'm pretty certain the hosts asked every person, even Christopher, if he deserved to be there. Even worse was when Caroline was comforting Rylan and said he deserved to be there because he got the votes, one rule for one and one rule for the other.

[worrierprincess]

Originally Posted by Stormwave UK

I'm not a Christopher fan either, but by god they are out to get him. I've just watched Xtra Factor from Sunday, and I'm pretty certain the hosts asked every person, even Christopher, if he deserved to be there. Even worse was when Caroline was comforting Rylan and said he deserved to be there because he got the votes, one rule for one and one rule for the other.

Christopher seems to get even more hate for still being in the competition than Rylan does, this is what I don't understand! Christopher isn't everyone's cup of tea obviously but at least he can sing to some degree whereas Rylan is just one huge (and unfunny) joke.

[Stormwave UK]

Originally Posted by worrierprincess

Christopher seems to get even more hate for still being in the competition than Rylan does, this is what I don't understand! Christopher isn't everyone's cup of tea obviously but at least he can sing to some degree whereas Rylan is just one huge (and unfunny) joke.

I completely agree, it's ridiculous.

[InMyArms]

He didn't say that he wants James to win over Christopher, he said "putting my category aside, I want James to win".

[Eurostar]

Originally Posted by InMyArms

He didn't say that he wants James to win over Christopher, he said "putting my category aside, I want James to win".

Which still sounds like him saying he wants James to finish ahead of Christopher. Why not say "I want Christopher to win"? That's something he has never said on the show.

[JohnHughes]

Could it be Gary is basing his opinion on the show being a competition for talented singers rather than a war between the judges? It doesn't matter who he is mentoring, if he feels James is more deserving talent wise he is entitled to air that opinion. This is why the show has gone tits up, it's now about who the big name judges 'big up' to win, rather than unearthing talent from all walks of life.

[InMyArms]

Originally Posted by Eurostar

Which still sounds like him saying he wants James to finish ahead of Christopher.

No it doesn't, it sounds like he's saying that James is his favourite out of the contestants that aren't in his own category - ie contestants other than Christopher.

Why not say "I want Christopher to win"? That's something he has never said on the show.

Because that would be stating the obvious.

I'm sticking up for Gary Barlow, I wonder if hell has frozen over?

[Floh]

Christopher will have to sue X Factor corporation for the nervous breakdown he's going to have and continued care he's going to need post show. It may happen, the breakdown and the suing. He may not even be able to cope with the tour after he's won, therefore a substitute winner will be crowned.

This joke is possibly in bad taste. I might not be joking

[Vol]

I'm sure when the other judges were talking about Christopher being through on Xtra Factor I heard Gary say 'I'm more annoyed Rylan's through' - bit telling lol .

[imagine___]

Originally Posted by Stormwave UK

I'm not a Christopher fan either, but by god they are out to get him. I've just watched Xtra Factor from Sunday, and I'm pretty certain the hosts asked every person, even Christopher, if he deserved to be there. Even worse was when Caroline was comforting Rylan and said he deserved to be there because he got the votes, one rule for one and one rule for the other.

Oh come on, now that's just ridiculous. Christopher was voted in by the public and the public have voted him through every week.

Rylan on the other hand, has been bottom 2 twice.

The campaign to get Christopher is getting ridiculous. Please, someone phone into Xtra Factor and point all this out to them. I would myself but I'm in Barcelona at the moment and the bill would be enormous.

Originally Posted by JohnHughes

Could it be Gary is basing his opinion on the show being a competition for talented singers rather than a war between the judges? It doesn't matter who he is mentoring, if he feels James is more deserving talent wise he is entitled to air that opinion. This is why the show has gone tits up, it's now about who the big name judges 'big up' to win, rather than unearthing talent from all walks of life.

I think Gary is the only one on that show who tries to find talent rather than score points against other people. He wouldn't mind losing his acts if they're not the next big thing, but he still has an act who is a great singer and is getting the public vote. That is a bonus for him- he's still finding the likes of James, Jahmene and Ella, and that is what he set out to do as judge. I still think he's the only judge with any credibility on the panel.

[scootzer]

Gary DID NOT say he wants James to win as opposed to Christopher! He said "putting my category aside, I want you to win'.

... any chance of the OP admitting she was wrong?

[Blondie X]

Originally Posted by JohnHughes

Could it be Gary is basing his opinion on the show being a competition for talented singers rather than a war between the judges? It doesn't matter who he is mentoring, if he feels James is more deserving talent wise he is entitled to air that opinion. This is why the show has gone tits up, it's now about who the big name judges 'big up' to win, rather than unearthing talent from all walks of life.

I agree with you. I think Gary, rather naively, genuinely thought the show was about finding a bright new star of the UK music industry.

[MeMeMe01]

Originally Posted by Eurostar

Why not say "I want Christopher to win"? That's something he has never said on the show.

Because he was giving feedback to James, not Christopher

It was obvious he meant that other than his own act, as this what he f**king said! How do people find such a simple thing so hard to understand?

[Stewie_C]

Well, that settles it - Chris has now officially won. Death by stylist, death slots, stabbing in the back by mentor, bullying by judges and producers has only increased his votes. None of the finalists are marketable, but Chris does at least have the ability to sing.

The public are going to vote him in now. Producers only have themselves to blame.

[Treewatcher]

Originally Posted by worrierprincess

Christopher seems to get even more hate for still being in the competition than Rylan does, this is what I don't understand! Christopher isn't everyone's cup of tea obviously but at least he can sing to some degree whereas Rylan is just one huge (and unfunny) joke.

It's easy to understand when you consider how average Christopher is. Okay, he may be able to sing in a cruise ship manner but that doesn't really give him the X-factor. Rylan on the other hand is a genuine one-off diamond and I'm so glad he's been given a stage.

[Susie-R]

People are misquoting Gary again, I think people didn't understand the way he said it and he should have worded it differently but on Xtra Factor Tulisa said it in plain English what he meant, which was basically out of all the other categories (not counting his own) the person he would like to win is James. Obviously Gary would prefer someone from his own category to win, he's very competitive

[jackbell]

Originally Posted by scootzer

Gary DID NOT say he wants James to win as opposed to Christopher! He said "putting my category aside, I want you to win'.

... any chance of the OP admitting she was wrong?

Gary did say that - more than once.

However you would have to be a mug to think he would prefer Christopher to win. He must be thinking he wished he never brought him back. Christopher is a terrible X Factor contestant.

[Sheechiibii]

He didn't say that, he said apart from his own act, he'd want James to win.

[roadieboys]

Originally Posted by Eurostar

Which still sounds like him saying he wants James to finish ahead of Christopher. Why not say "I want Christopher to win"? That's something he has never said on the show.

Selective hearing .............. He said what he said .Deal with it! ......

[valezio]

Originally Posted by scootzer

Gary DID NOT say he wants James to win as opposed to Christopher! He said "putting my category aside, I want you to win'.

... any chance of the OP admitting she was wrong?

Well said. These people are here to incite hate towards Christopher. Mis-quotes are what cause rumours. Gary is backing Chris 100%. He said yesterday Chris is a lovely person and so easy to work with. I hope the OP will admit her mistake as you suggested.

[valezio]

Originally Posted by MeMeMe01

Because he was giving feedback to James, not Christopher

It was obvious he meant that other than his own act, as this what he f**king said! How do people find such a simple thing so hard to understand?

Exactly! They find it hard to understand as it doesn't fit in with their hate mission. This sort of thing, causing rumours and lies, is what's contributed to the awful thing that's happened on Twitter. People are running out of nasty things to say so just make it up as they go along. I've never seen anything like this in my life. Ok, you don't like Chris - that's fine, it's your choice. I don't like James Arthur or Rylan but have never wished to go on their Facebook page or Twitter spouting off lies and rubbish. It really is so childish. It's a competition that's all. We can all like or dislike whoever we wish to but some people haved stooped lower than low.

[jackbell]

Originally Posted by valezio

Well said. These people are here to incite hate towards Christopher. Mis-quotes are what cause rumours. Gary is backing Chris 100%. He said yesterday Chris is a lovely person and so easy to work with. I hope the OP will admit her mistake as you suggested.

The OP wasn't all that wrong to have to admit his or her mistake.

It's obvious Gary would prefer James to win over Christopher, but he has to be loyal to his own act and it would have been disrespectful to say anything else. But this is what he meant in my opinion.

[johartuk]

Originally Posted by Treewatcher

It's easy to understand when you consider how average Christopher is. Okay, he may be able to sing in a cruise ship manner but that doesn't really give him the X-factor. Rylan on the other hand is a genuine one-off diamond and I'm so glad he's been given a stage.

Rylan is mediocre. He's a worse singer than Chris and isn't a one-off. He's just the latest in a long line of joke acts, doing the same over-blown 'everything but the kitchen sink thrown at him' routines that we've seen from previous joke acts (remember Jedward?). The mash-ups aren't an original idea (remember Wagner?). The 'skinny camp gay man' routine isn't original (remember Johnny?). Even Rylan's accent and look isn't original (have you seen TOWIE/Katie Price?).

If Chris is considered a joke act, then so is Rylan. The fact that there seems to be a double standard towards them (i.e. it's OK that Rylan got through but not Chris) is laughable, especially when you consider that Rylan has been in the bottom two twice whereas Chris has been voted through by the public every week up to now. As far as I can see, Chris has been designated the 'villain' and that's the only reason Rylan is being portrayed positively. If Chris goes this week, expect to see Rylan getting all the flack that was formerly aimed at Chris.

[jackbell]

Christopher is a cheesy act. Rylan is the joke act.

Neither is better. However Rylan (with the full production behind him) is the more entertaining.

Christopher is just an act that goes back to New Face and Opportunity Knocks.