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Old 22-11-2012, 09:24
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I signed up yesterday to the SIM only plan with EE of 31 for 3GB data. This is exactly the same as I have been paying Orange for 2GB (albeit 12 month contract instead of rolling 30 days, but I have no intention of changing for a year).
I *know* I can get cheaper data (indeed, I have a 15 Three SIM in my iPad that gives me 15GB) but I happen to like Orange (for coverage plus Orange Wednesdays) but I don't think it's fair to say they are price gouging.
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Old 22-11-2012, 09:38
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I signed up yesterday to the SIM only plan with EE of 31 for 3GB data. This is exactly the same as I have been paying Orange for 2GB (albeit 12 month contract instead of rolling 30 days, but I have no intention of changing for a year).
I *know* I can get cheaper data (indeed, I have a 15 Three SIM in my iPad that gives me 15GB) but I happen to like Orange (for coverage plus Orange Wednesdays) but I don't think it's fair to say they are price gouging.
So only because you compare EE's offer to a, in my eyes, rather s**t one, makes the EE one look decent?
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Old 22-11-2012, 09:50
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46 a month with EE gets me 3 gigs of data a month on 4G whereas 46 with O2 currently gets me 500mb 3G.

iPhone 5 64 gig model was the phone.
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Old 22-11-2012, 09:55
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I think the pricing is awful and won't be using the service.
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Old 22-11-2012, 10:01
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46 a month with EE gets me 3 gigs of data a month on 4G whereas 46 with O2 currently gets me 500mb 3G.

iPhone 5 64 gig model was the phone.
Not sure where you see 500mb. Although still less, it's actually 2GB.
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Old 22-11-2012, 10:11
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People slating the EE 4g prices (I work for 'em) always leave out the value of the unlimited calls and texts, and focus only on the data allowance, as if that's all you were getting. Now, I'm a good example of someone who doesn't do much calling,internet is my main activity on my phone. But,believe it or not, there are people who also like/need to talk a lot. Their perception of value may therefore be different.
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Old 22-11-2012, 10:18
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SIM only with Three 25 a month gets me unlimited data and from l hear data speeds are not that great on EE and comparable to Three's 3G/HSPA.

Plus when l get my next phone (currently have an Galaxy S2) it will support DC-HSPA+ which Three have been rolling out. So will probably end up with similar data speeds once EE have ramped up there service.
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Old 22-11-2012, 10:21
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People slating the EE 4g prices (I work for 'em) always leave out the value of the unlimited calls and texts, and focus only on the data allowance, as if that's all you were getting. Now, I'm a good example of someone who doesn't do much calling,internet is my main activity on my phone. But,believe it or not, there are people who also like/need to talk a lot. Their perception of value may therefore be different.
I don't think the mentioning of unlimited calls or texts these days is really relevant given some point from next year the terminating rates will fall near to a below a 1p. Sooner or later all the networks are going to be offering the unlimited calls and texts if they don't already it isn't value, it just isn't a money earner that it used to be.

I will be holding off from 4G for some time as yet, until the Technology becomes more pervasive then it won't benefit me that much. I have Three and they are in the midst of the DC-HSPA upgrades to their network, which more than does me for fast internet which is more than comparable to the current 4G offering from EE. That said Vodafone offer me consisent albeit only H+ speeds but am not too worried about that. I would rather stick with what works and offers me capacity to surf the web, which is more than can be said of the original Orange work its still crap even with all the supposed upgrades that is happening on the integrated network......
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Old 22-11-2012, 10:29
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People slating the EE 4g prices (I work for 'em) always leave out the value of the unlimited calls and texts, and focus only on the data allowance, as if that's all you were getting. Now, I'm a good example of someone who doesn't do much calling,internet is my main activity on my phone. But,believe it or not, there are people who also like/need to talk a lot. Their perception of value may therefore be different.
Then why not have different tarrifs catering for the different user bases one who talk and text a lot and the other who use data a lot?
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Old 22-11-2012, 11:10
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Compared to what I pay T-Mobile, 21 per month for unlimited everything, I'd say EE's tariff's are pretty pants.

And this is someone who talks (I was on the phone for 2 hours the other night), texts and uses the internet a lot.

I might not be getting 4G but 3G is perfect enough for me.
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Old 22-11-2012, 11:50
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I signed up yesterday to the SIM only plan with EE of 31 for 3GB data. This is exactly the same as I have been paying Orange for 2GB (albeit 12 month contract instead of rolling 30 days, but I have no intention of changing for a year).
I *know* I can get cheaper data (indeed, I have a 15 Three SIM in my iPad that gives me 15GB) but I happen to like Orange (for coverage plus Orange Wednesdays) but I don't think it's fair to say they are price gouging.
Are you kidding me? you were paying 31pm for a sim only!
T-Mobile is the exact same coverage and do unlimited data/texts & 2000mins for 21pm on a 12 month contract. The whole point of a sim only is to pay less than you would with a 24 month contract and subsidised phone. Right now i could get the S3 on Three's one plan for 28pm inc vat for 24 months with a free phone.
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Old 22-11-2012, 12:47
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People slating the EE 4g prices (I work for 'em) always leave out the value of the unlimited calls and texts, and focus only on the data allowance, as if that's all you were getting. Now, I'm a good example of someone who doesn't do much calling,internet is my main activity on my phone. But,believe it or not, there are people who also like/need to talk a lot. Their perception of value may therefore be different.
Who actually needs unlimited minutes?? Is 2000 not enough for people? Do people want to be perpetually glued to the phone 24/7? I think having a bigger data allowance outweighs calling minutes these days. People use stuff like whatsapp which needs data skype is getting more and more popular for making calls and you will get the benefit on 4g now when using VOIP services. Also people are using more cloud storage too and streaming media.

I can't agree with you, unlimited minutes is pretty pointless when you put it in perspective. The Way people are using their mobiles are no longer just for calling and texting, we consume data, and therefore, for what we pay we need to have the means to continue to do so, so nope, I don't believe EE offers good value to be honest.

The game has changed and so operators need to have a bias towards data, There is no point in having fast speeds if we can hardly get the most out of what we are paying due to limited data allowances.
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Old 22-11-2012, 12:55
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Not sure where you see 500mb. Although still less, it's actually 2GB.
My current contract with O2. I pay 46 a month and get 500mb of data.

I dont know about new contracts and new data allowances.
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Old 22-11-2012, 13:43
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What's the point in having a super fast 4G phone and a 3GB data limit - I think it's pointless.
Why not a 50GB or more data limit. I would use 3GB on 4G in a few days watching streaming services whatnot.
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Old 22-11-2012, 13:53
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What's the point in having a super fast 4G phone and a 3GB data limit - I think it's pointless.
Why not a 50GB or more data limit. I would use 3GB on 4G in a few days watching streaming services whatnot.
I used 32GB last month on my phone in total. Some was streaming some was tethering. And the thing is that at the 3G speed i was getting everything worked well. Yes youtube videos did take a bit of time to buffer etc... but the streams were HD, tethering worked well.

So i agree, whats the point of having a data limit just because you're having a slightly faster download speed and slightly faster ping
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Old 22-11-2012, 13:58
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I used 32GB last month on my phone in total. Some was streaming some was tethering. And the thing is that at the 3G speed i was getting everything worked well. Yes youtube videos did take a bit of time to buffer etc... but the streams were HD, tethering worked well.

So i agree, whats the point of having a data limit just because you're having a slightly faster download speed and slightly faster ping
Are you with Three one plan? Do you suffer from throttlling between 3pm and 12am?
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Old 22-11-2012, 14:05
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Are you with Three one plan? Do you suffer from throttlling between 3pm and 12am?
I'm with Three and have never noticibly been throttled. I quite happily stream 1080p YouTube videos while a number of devices are connected to my phone. Always get faster speeds on Three than on my home broadband which is 3mbps.

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Old 22-11-2012, 14:07
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I'm with Three and have never noticibly been throttled. I quite happily stream 1080p YouTube videos while a number of devices are connected to my phone. Always get faster speeds on Three than on my home broadband which is 3mbps.

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Maybe they are just throttling the PAYG all you can eat users?
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Old 22-11-2012, 14:22
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ill be waiting for an 4G whatever until vodafone release theyre 4G network
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Old 22-11-2012, 14:27
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Are you with Three one plan? Do you suffer from throttlling between 3pm and 12am?
If you're talking about trafficsense then no i wasn't throttled when that was on back in June?

But they only stop people who are doing things against the T&C if you start doing heavy stuff. e.g torrents/tethering on non compatible plans etc... So if you're on pay as you go and using it against T&C for tethering etc... then thats why you're being throttled.

At least they're not like Giff Gaff where they just cut you off after using 1GB within the first hour.
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Old 22-11-2012, 14:29
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The prices are as bad as portrayed. You're missing the point of 4G. It's not about phone calls or text messages. The whole crux of ALL of EE's marketing for this product is about speed of data, so if it's all about data, the ability to make phone calls and texts is secondary. Anyone that is being addressed by the marketing of 4GEE is interested first and foremost in data, and in that respect, there are much cheaper options available.
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Old 22-11-2012, 14:30
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I'm with Three and have never noticibly been throttled. I quite happily stream 1080p YouTube videos while a number of devices are connected to my phone. Always get faster speeds on Three than on my home broadband which is 3mbps.

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Yep three is really decent. Especially where I work, EC1 area of London. Streaming youtube HD on my playbook whilst tethered to my phone. Really quick, does the job and no data limits. And i'm not even using full potential of DC HSDPA yet as my phone doesn't support it, but I can still hit 5+ download speed and 1+ upload on it with a quick ping. If I got the google nexus 4 and ran it on three DC HSDPA,I'm sure it would fly.

4G? nah don't need it!
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Old 22-11-2012, 14:40
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The prices are as bad as portrayed. You're missing the point of 4G. It's not about phone calls or text messages. The whole crux of ALL of EE's marketing for this product is about speed of data, so if it's all about data, the ability to make phone calls and texts is secondary. Anyone that is being addressed by the marketing of 4GEE is interested first and foremost in data, and in that respect, there are much cheaper options available.
Besides i'm pretty sure you can't even make calls/text over 4G right now? right? or am i totally wrong?
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Old 22-11-2012, 14:43
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If you're talking about trafficsense then no i wasn't throttled when that was on back in June?

But they only stop people who are doing things against the T&C if you start doing heavy stuff. e.g torrents/tethering on non compatible plans etc... So if you're on pay as you go and using it against T&C for tethering etc... then thats why you're being throttled.

At least they're not like Giff Gaff where they just cut you off after using 1GB within the first hour.
OK makes sense. I might join the oneplan on Three then.
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Old 22-11-2012, 14:56
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OK makes sense. I might join the oneplan on Three then.
Do you get good speeds outside of peak times. If you do it's worth a try for a month. If not then no point. You'll just see similar low speeds.
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