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Old 23-11-2012, 11:19
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First year of release:

Songs: £1.29
albums: £5

After 1 year old

songs: 89p
albums: £4

or thereabouts. To stop some singles getting increased chart success just because they are cheaper. Make it a fairer market.
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Old 23-11-2012, 13:43
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so you want a restriction on trade, which is currently illegal?

why should some peice of shit music cost the same as a great peice of music? that's pretty much how itunes treats things. few other things in life cost the same regardless of if they are good or bad, so why should music be different?
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Old 23-11-2012, 13:46
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meh most people download from free sites anyway Only if your a fan of an artist you buy the album to support them
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Old 23-11-2012, 13:47
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Fine if all music cost the same to produce but an album of covers will cost a fraction of what an album of new material costs so you should pay accordingly
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Old 23-11-2012, 14:17
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I already think that digital downloads have already de valued music, I am always amazed that people gripe about the price of music. I think £10 for an album is cheap as it is without lowering it further. I would happily pay more for a good album that gives me hours upon hours of enjoyment. Music is about a third of the price it was twenty years ago. Hence why concerts have had to quadruple in prices to bring in revenue. As for illegal downloads its theft no different to walking into a shop and stealing. Why should people get something for nothing.
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Old 23-11-2012, 14:28
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I honestly think that all genres of music should be the same price, it is daylight robbery when places like HMV charge extra for a new release from groups like Evanescence or Within Temptation by sticking it in their overpriced import section. Yet because an artist / group in the top 40 is classed as more popular, they sell it at a reduced rate. Strange thing is that you can go online and buy near enough whatever type of music you listen to at near enough the same price.

I have no problem in purchasing music, but I refuse to pay the shops asking price.
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Old 23-11-2012, 15:15
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I already think that digital downloads have already de valued music, I am always amazed that people gripe about the price of music. I think £10 for an album is cheap as it is without lowering it further. I would happily pay more for a good album that gives me hours upon hours of enjoyment. Music is about a third of the price it was twenty years ago. Hence why concerts have had to quadruple in prices to bring in revenue. As for illegal downloads its theft no different to walking into a shop and stealing. Why should people get something for nothing.
+1 here
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Old 23-11-2012, 15:25
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so you want a restriction on trade, which is currently illegal?
Isn't that a form of anti-competitive behaviour? I know competition law in the EU prohibits trade restriction with cartels and stuff and there's something somewhere in Article 101, 102 or 103 of the TFEU or whatever it is. (Yes, I know I'm a law student. I'm sure anyone here who knows about competition law can correct me on this )
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Old 23-11-2012, 15:26
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Albums £5? Do you mean Mini-Albums/EP's? Imo when an album gets released it should at least be £10. I think £1 per track is very fair so if there's 10 tracks, £10. I wouldn't pay more than £20 for an album though even if it had 20 tracks, I think between £10 and £16 is pretty fair.
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Old 23-11-2012, 16:59
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so you want a restriction on trade, which is currently illegal?

why should some peice of shit music cost the same as a great peice of music? that's pretty much how itunes treats things. few other things in life cost the same regardless of if they are good or bad, so why should music be different?
pretty much what i thought when viewing the post. at least we can agree on this! oh and michael jackson.
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Old 23-11-2012, 23:55
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Isn't that a form of anti-competitive behaviour? I know competition law in the EU prohibits trade restriction with cartels and stuff and there's something somewhere in Article 101, 102 or 103 of the TFEU or whatever it is. (Yes, I know I'm a law student. I'm sure anyone here who knows about competition law can correct me on this )
no, it would be the opposite as everyone would have the same price, so playing on the same field. but it would be a restriction on trade if retailers or suppliers wouldn't be able to set the prices they want
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Old 23-11-2012, 23:56
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Erh it's not al about a poxy chart show
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Old 23-11-2012, 23:58
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I honestly think that all genres of music should be the same price, it is daylight robbery when places like HMV charge extra for a new release from groups like Evanescence or Within Temptation by sticking it in their overpriced import section. Yet because an artist / group in the top 40 is classed as more popular, they sell it at a reduced rate. Strange thing is that you can go online and buy near enough whatever type of music you listen to at near enough the same price.

I have no problem in purchasing music, but I refuse to pay the shops asking price.
did you ever consider that the reason for pricing like that is down to the prices the shops have to pay for product?

for new releases and chart titles, record companies will offer deals to retailers so they can sell the titles cheaper, encouraging more sales, in the hope that title will chart highly, preferably number 1. however not every title has a deal thus those without a deal sell for normal price. what you see is the normal price, and the chart/new release is discounted
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Old 24-11-2012, 00:06
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Albums £5? Do you mean Mini-Albums/EP's? Imo when an album gets released it should at least be £10. I think £1 per track is very fair so if there's 10 tracks, £10. I wouldn't pay more than £20 for an album though even if it had 20 tracks, I think between £10 and £16 is pretty fair.
I agree. Not saying i'm made of monies, but I'm quite happy to pay around £10 for an album. £13-£15 for the special edition.
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Old 24-11-2012, 00:11
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no, it would be the opposite as everyone would have the same price, so playing on the same field. but it would be a restriction on trade if retailers or suppliers wouldn't be able to set the prices they want
I got it now. Wouldn't it be a form of price fixing, which is also illegal under Article 101 of the TFEU? Do you know much about competition law?
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Old 24-11-2012, 08:14
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I got it now. Wouldn't it be a form of price fixing, which is also illegal under Article 101 of the TFEU? Do you know much about competition law?
that's it. i just know some law, the parts that relate to work past and present
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Old 24-11-2012, 08:23
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First year of release:

Songs: £1.29
albums: £5

After 1 year old

songs: 89p
albums: £4

or thereabouts. To stop some singles getting increased chart success just because they are cheaper. Make it a fairer market.
Who wants to clutter their house up with albums when you can use Spotify?
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Old 24-11-2012, 15:48
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Who wants to clutter their house up with albums when you can use Spotify?
Umm, Me?
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Old 24-11-2012, 18:45
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that's it. i just know some law, the parts that relate to work past and present
That's good. I'm a law student so I have to study all this stuff. Competition Law is a fairly big area.
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Old 24-11-2012, 22:41
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That's good. I'm a law student so I have to study all this stuff. Competition Law is a fairly big area.
i have a couple of full time lawyers in the office, and they have access to all sorts of resources if it's an issue they aren't experienced or specialised in. there's some forum or helpdesk type thing they can use. not quite a forum, and certainly not like an open forum where every man and his dog chips in and you can't tell wrong from right, it's a professional thing for lawyers. it always comes in handy to know a lawyer or two
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Old 25-11-2012, 03:19
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why should some peice of shit music cost the same as a great peice of music?

Much as I love the sentiment here, I don't think quality has much bearing on the difference in price. Although some incredible but rather fringe music is a hefty price when reissued, often due to the limited runs.

Potentially a huge topic, this one.
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Old 25-11-2012, 07:31
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Much as I love the sentiment here, I don't think quality has much bearing on the difference in price. Although some incredible but rather fringe music is a hefty price when reissued, often due to the limited runs.

Potentially a huge topic, this one.
it does when an album doesn't sell and it's consigned to the bargain bin. look at the one from girls aloud who isn't cherly cole and how her solo album was literally given away free by tesco as it couldn't sell

you must be pretty young if you don't remember bargain bins in record stores, full of the crap that couldn't sell
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Old 25-11-2012, 11:17
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it does when an album doesn't sell and it's consigned to the bargain bin. look at the one from girls aloud who isn't cherly cole and how her solo album was literally given away free by tesco as it couldn't sell

you must be pretty young if you don't remember bargain bins in record stores, full of the crap that couldn't sell
Pretty young ... nope, not me. I wasn't thinking of pricing in terms of what music it ends up being cleared at at by overstocked retailers, I was thinking in terms of what manufacturers set as their product prices.
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Old 25-11-2012, 11:49
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it does when an album doesn't sell and it's consigned to the bargain bin. look at the one from girls aloud who isn't cherly cole and how her solo album was literally given away free by tesco as it couldn't sell
That was a site glitch and the sales were not honoured.
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Old 25-11-2012, 13:40
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Pretty young ... nope, not me. I wasn't thinking of pricing in terms of what music it ends up being cleared at at by overstocked retailers, I was thinking in terms of what manufacturers set as their product prices.
but that's not what the OP was referring to, and distributers will still reduce prices to clear stock, the same as with most other products
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