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The X Factor - Live Show Weekend 8 - Sat/Sun ITV1/HD 8:00 - Discussion Thread
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Zack06
24-11-2012
Welcome to tonight's discussion thread for The X Factor at 8:00pm Saturday and Sunday!

This week the pressure doubles....literally, as the contestants must take on TWO songs each from "ABBA and Motown" as they compete for your votes, all hoping to reach next week's semi-final!

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The X Factor Gazette:

Jahmene: 'My mother's screams will stick with me until the day I die'

Labrinth: 'I want to work with X Factor's James Arthur'

Simon Cowell planning to reveal weekly voting results?

Rylan: 'X Factor viewers should be locked up over homophobic abuse'

Lucy Spraggan confirms she will not perform on tour

Gary Barlow: 'I may tell Rylan he's s**te'

Little Mix: 'Ella Henderson X Factor exit left us fuming'

'The X Factor' is f**ked, says Frankie Cocozza

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This week in X Factor history:

Steve Brookstein is crowned the first ever winner (Season 1)
Chico leaves the competition after receiving the lowest number of public votes (Season 2)
Ray Quinn channels Sinatra with "My Way" as The MacDonald Brothers are eliminated (Season 3)
Niki Evans leaves the competition as Leon, Rhydian and Same Difference make the final (Season 4)
Alexandra Burke takes on original Britney choreography in "Toxic" before having her moment with "Listen" (Season 5)
Lloyd Daniels departs the show in "Take That and Elton John" week (Season 6)
Katie Waissel and Wagner leave in a dramatic double elimination (Season 7) (Full Episode)
Janet Devlin is voted out of the competition after forgetting her words a second time (Season 8)

Song choices from previous "ABBA" and "Motown" weeks:


Spoiler

Series 3 - ABBA (week 4):


Nikitta Angus - Dancing Queen
Eton Road - Does Your Mother Know
Robert Allen - Take a Chance on Me
Leona Lewis - Chiquitita
The MacDonald Brothers - Fernando
Ray Quinn - Waterloo
Ben Mills - SOS
Ashley McKenzie - The Winner Takes It All (Eliminated)

Series 8 - Motown (week 9):

Misha B - Martha and the Vandellas - Dancing in the Street (Eliminated)
Amelia Lily - Marvin Gaye & Tammi Terrell - Ain't No Mountain High Enough
Little Mix - The Supremes - You Keep Me Hangin' On
Marcus Collins - The Temptations - My Girl


This week's celebrity guests:

Rihanna - Diamonds
Bruno Mars - Locked Out Of Heaven

Odds:

Spoiler

Outright:

Jahmene Douglas - 4/5
James Arthur - 2/1
Union J - 12/1
Christopher Maloney - 7/1
Rylan Clark - 16/1

First Act Announced Safe:

Jahmene Douglas - 2/1
James Arthur - 9/4
Union J - 9/2
Christopher Maloney - 7/2
Rylan Clark - 5/1


See more at the source (via William Hill)

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Enjoy the weekend and a good evening to everybody!

All spoilers in tags
Sex
24-11-2012
ooo new thanks zack exited for chris and union j this week
richie4eva
24-11-2012
The ratings will make VERY interesting reading this weekend after last week's disaster

Worst final 5 probably of any series, and the cherry on the cake Rylan and/or Baloney guaranteed to be in the semi final

A much more subdued Tulisa I would imagine now she has no acts left, and I do wonder if she will be civil to Rylan after last week

Just remember, Tulisa, two chances to get rid of him and you blew it

Won't be here later for the actual show or the results as it's that time again when a certain mutt requires dogsitting, but will be here in spirit
Zack06
24-11-2012
Originally Posted by Sex:
“ooo new thanks zack exited for chris and union j this week”

Thank you! not particularly excited for those acts haha (ok well maybe Chris for the judges comments)....I'm not sure who to support at the moment...it will most likely be one of Nicole's acts though, she really did choose cleverly there imo.
silentNate
24-11-2012
I can taste Rylan's victory in the air

It will be a shame to say goodbye to either Onions or Jahmene though

Thanks for the thread Zack06
Zack06
24-11-2012
Originally Posted by richie4eva:
“The ratings will make VERY interesting reading this weekend after last week's disaster

Worst final 5 probably of any series, and the cherry on the cake Rylan and/or Baloney guaranteed to be in the semi final

A much more subdued Tulisa I would imagine now she has no acts left, and I do wonder if she will be civil to Rylan after last week

Just remember, Tulisa, two chances to get rid of him and you blew it

Won't be here later for the actual show or the results as it's that time again when a certain mutt requires dogsitting, but will be here in spirit”

I think the producers will have undoubtedly told Tulisa to zip it after she started attacking the public, yet as you say, she had several opportunities to get rid of Rylan but didn't. It was OK for her to choose Rylan over Kye when her acts weren't on the line, but as soon as Ella went she realised she had been totally complacent and lashed out at Chris and the general public. Very bad.

Shame you can't watch live but will be thinking of you fuming as Rylan and/or Chris get to the semi-final
Zack06
24-11-2012
Originally Posted by silentNate:
“I can taste Rylan's victory in the air

It will be a shame to say goodbye to either Onions or Jahmene though

Thanks for the thread Zack06 ”

^^ Not a problem. I'm hoping Jahmene makes the final, but after Ella, you never know...would be interesting to see if they go ahead with this "twist"...it may alter the voting.
richie4eva
24-11-2012
Originally Posted by Zack06:
“I think the producers will have undoubtedly told Tulisa to zip it after she started attacking the public, yet as you say, she had several opportunities to get rid of Rylan but didn't. It was OK for her to choose Rylan over Kye when her acts weren't on the line, but as soon as Ella went she realised she had been totally complacent and lashed out at Chris and the general public. Very bad.

Shame you can't watch live but will be thinking of you fuming as Rylan and/or Chris get to the semi-final ”

Think I'm past caring when Clown Clark goes now

When he does eventually go (and hopefully it will be Sunday and not as the winner in 2 weeks) I will be like "Too little too late as it won't bring Ella, Kye and Carolynne back" as opposed to "Yesssssssssssss, halle blooming lujah"

This series has officially sunk for a lot of people now, think there will be a huge sigh of relief when it's over in 2 weeks time, so the overhauling can get underway ready for the 10th anniversary series
Zack06
24-11-2012
Originally Posted by richie4eva:
“Think I'm past caring when Clown Clark goes now

When he does eventually go (and hopefully it will be Sunday and not as the winner in 2 weeks) I will be like "Too little too late as it won't bring Ella, Kye and Carolynne back" as opposed to "Yesssssssssssss, halle blooming lujah"

This series has officially sunk for a lot of people now, think there will be a huge sigh of relief when it's over in 2 weeks time, so the overhauling can get underway ready for the 10th anniversary series”

I think the bold sums up my feelings on the majority of the acts this year. The actual glimmers of talent they actually put through to the lives have all gone now, and we're left with an extremely bland final 5 imo.

Something went very wrong this year, and I hope the producers have finally learned their lesson that the public are not idiots (sadly I don't think they have). I feel like the show needs to go back to basics this year, it has become way too overproduced and not about the voice and performance as it was up until series 5. Since then the producers seem to care more about the tabloid stories and backstage rubbish than the actual singing.

I hope Jahmene and even James make the final over the others.
silentNate
24-11-2012
Originally Posted by Zack06:
“^^ Not a problem. I'm hoping Jahmene makes the final, but after Ella, you never know...would be interesting to see if they go ahead with this "twist"...it may alter the voting.”

US XF has been a disaster but I'd love them to show the results
silentNate
24-11-2012
Originally Posted by richie4eva:
“Think I'm past caring when Clown Clark goes now

When he does eventually go (and hopefully it will be Sunday and not as the winner in 2 weeks) I will be like "Too little too late as it won't bring Ella, Kye and Carolynne back" as opposed to "Yesssssssssssss, halle blooming lujah"

This series has officially sunk for a lot of people now, think there will be a huge sigh of relief when it's over in 2 weeks time, so the overhauling can get underway ready for the 10th anniversary series”

Kye was awful... Carolynn I feel sympathy for
Zack06
24-11-2012
Originally Posted by silentNate:
“Kye was awful... Carolynn I feel sympathy for ”

It may sound really soppy, but my heart broke for her on Xtra Factor when she said "I was never as popular as other contestants, I saw them all gaining twitter followers" etc, she was so sad. It shouldn't be about popularity, it should be about talent, I really felt for her then.

The X Factor U.S. voting thing was quite surprising....maybe we'll get shocked on our one as well...clearly the producers are trying to meddle again...
silentNate
24-11-2012
Originally Posted by Zack06:
“It may sound really soppy, but my heart broke for her on Xtra Factor when she said "I was never as popular as other contestants, I saw them all gaining twitter followers" etc, she was so sad. It shouldn't be about popularity, it should be about talent, I really felt for her then.

The X Factor U.S. voting thing was quite surprising....maybe we'll get shocked on our one as well...clearly the producers are trying to meddle again...”

The plant looks like walking US XF but with knowing who has the most votes comes complacency
richie4eva
24-11-2012
Originally Posted by silentNate:
“Kye was awful... Carolynn I feel sympathy for ”

To think the Overs and the Girls were being touted as the strongest categories at the start and look what's happened

Tulisa with no acts left and Gary has the worst Over 28 left, leaving the field open for Nicole to possibly clean up as nobody expected the boys category to do THIS well

Can she beat the odds and get all her acts to the semi final, the way the voting is going this year I wouldn't bet against it especially after last week's catastrophe
richie4eva
24-11-2012
Originally Posted by Zack06:
“
The X Factor U.S. voting thing was quite surprising....maybe we'll get shocked on our one as well...clearly the producers are trying to meddle again...”

The meddling has been obvious this year and has backfired big time

It would be unwise to push the public as the public are pushing back really hard this year

Anymore meddling and they may find themselves with THAT nightmare final which may force Simon's hand in pulling the plug after this series
silentNate
24-11-2012
If Simon is seriously thinking about pulling the plug then I cannot think of any greater victory

He isn't... Syco make money no matter what
Soppyfan
24-11-2012
I wouldn't count on Nicole keeping all three of her boys when there is a 60% chance of one of them going. Remember last year, Kelly had three girls by this point and looked very strong until suddenly, they left one by one...

And once again, I will not be watching the show as I'm out all night with great company.

And here's this week elimination odds:

Rylan = 5/4
Christopher = 11/4
Union J = 10/3
James = 25/1
Jahmene = 33/1
Sex
24-11-2012
Originally Posted by silentNate:
“Kye was awful...”

Finally someone who agrees
Digital Sid
24-11-2012
Looking forward to it.
Digital Sid
24-11-2012
Originally Posted by richie4eva:
“The ratings will make VERY interesting reading this weekend after last week's disaster

Worst final 5 probably of any series, and the cherry on the cake Rylan and/or Baloney guaranteed to be in the semi final

A much more subdued Tulisa I would imagine now she has no acts left, and I do wonder if she will be civil to Rylan after last week

Just remember, Tulisa, two chances to get rid of him and you blew it

Won't be here later for the actual show or the results as it's that time again when a certain mutt requires dogsitting, but will be here in spirit”

I'm expecting the opposite, nasty comments about Chris, "I want everyone up north, male or who's a fan of music to pick up the phone and vote for this credible artist" vote begging for James, constant mentions of how Ella shouldn't have gone the lot.
Sex
24-11-2012
If someone song dancing in the street i'm gonna argggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg!
silentNate
24-11-2012
Originally Posted by Sex:
“If someone song dancing in the street i'm gonna argggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg!”

I bet that will be the group song
Bex.
24-11-2012
2 weeks left
tinkie
24-11-2012
Good afternoon everyone *waves*, thanks for the thread Zack, special mention to jaded, JR, rhumble & Nate. See you all later
richie4eva
24-11-2012
Originally Posted by Bex.:
“2 weeks left ”

Think it's more a case of 'thank god' where this series is concerned

Sweep it all under the carpet and let the overhaul begin for the 10th anniversary series next year
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