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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 9,697
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    Thank you for the list of the dances.

    Dani & Vincent - American Smooth/Viennese Waltz - should be fabulous

    Denise & James - Salsa - will be reasonable

    Kimberley & Pasha - should be good depending on her knee

    Lisa & Robin - Quickstep - needs to up technique - think this will be distinctly average

    Louis & Flavia - Charleston - good if Louis really emotes but I rarely love a Charleston!

    Michael & Natalie - Samba - love Michael but think this will be painful

    Nicky & Karen - Argentine Tango - worse than average - you have to really connect in the AT and he never looks at his partner


    My preferences for the possible remaining dances left for each couple to do after these week 9 ones:

    Dani & Vincent - Charleston, Paso or Rumba - C & P fine but would prefer them not to do the rumba

    Denise & James - AT, Quickstep or Tango - would love them to do the QS or Tango, but not the AT

    Kimberley & Pasha - AS, AT or Waltz - would love them to do any of these

    Lisa & Robin - AS, AT or Waltz - would sadly love them to do none of these

    Louis & Flavia - Foxtrot or Quickstep with AT in final if he gets there - would like either of these but not keen on him doing the AT

    Michael & Natalie - Charleston, Paso or Rumba - would not like them to do any of these

    Nicky & Karen - Paso, Salsa or Samba - would not like them to do any of these
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    Sherlock_HolmesSherlock_Holmes Posts: 6,882
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    Dani might not have the choice, as she did a Charleston inspired dance for Sport Relief.
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    StrictlyRedStrictlyRed Posts: 12,451
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    Dani might not have the choice, as she did a Charleston inspired dance for Sport Relief.

    Good point.

    A pity, because I think it could have been a terrific dance for her.
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    SueDevonSueDevon Posts: 215
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    Dani might not have the choice, as she did a Charleston inspired dance for Sport Relief.

    Oh, that's a shame. And in that case should Denise have been allowed to do the Charleston? I think Roxie's dances in Chicago are Charleston-inspired, too?
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    StigOfTheKrumpStigOfTheKrump Posts: 36,363
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    SueDevon wrote: »
    I think Roxie's dances in Chicago are Charleston-inspired, too?

    But all she did was sit on a chair! ;)
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    SueDevonSueDevon Posts: 215
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    But all she did was sit on a chair! ;)

    Oh of course, I was muddling Charleston with chair dancing. Silly me ;)
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    Pet MonkeyPet Monkey Posts: 11,923
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    cwickham wrote: »
    Looking ahead a bit - we can actually be fairly sure of which dance style everybody will be doing in week 10 if they survive, as they should have 2 ballrooms and 2 latins left for the semi-final week (that has been consistently the case with this format for the last two years).

    So:

    Dani & Vincent - American Smooth/Viennese Waltz this week. If they survive they'll have a latin - Charleston, Paso or Rumba.
    Denise & James - Salsa this week. If they survive they'll have a ballroom - AT, Quickstep or Tango.
    Kimberley & Pasha - probably Jive this week but not outright stated yet. If that is correct and they survive they'll have a ballroom - AS, AT or Waltz.
    Lisa & Robin - Quickstep this week. If they survive they'll have another ballroom - AS, AT or Waltz.
    Louis & Flavia - Charleston this week. If they survive they'll have a ballroom - and we know they're doing the AT as their new dance in the final if they get there. So it'll be Foxtrot or Quickstep.
    Michael & Natalie - Samba this week. If they survive it'll be another latin - Charleston, Paso or Rumba.
    Nicky & Karen - Argentine Tango this week. If they survive it'll be a latin - Paso, Salsa or Samba.

    Jive confirmed a tiddle-bit more by Kimberley tweet:

    This is the fastest dance I've ever done in my life........heeeellllpppp!!!!!! #SCD
    7:05pm - 27 Nov 12
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    cwickhamcwickham Posts: 10,272
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    And we'll get absolute confirmation on ITT tomorrow - but seems pretty certain as Louis is already doing charleston. Provided she doesn't get the waltz the week after, this week and next could be the jump she needs from 'good' to 'excellent' as the other two ballrooms are both high-impact.
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    katmobilekatmobile Posts: 10,889
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    cwickham wrote: »
    Looking ahead a bit - we can actually be fairly sure of which dance style everybody will be doing in week 10 if they survive, as they should have 2 ballrooms and 2 latins left for the semi-final week (that has been consistently the case with this format for the last two years).

    So:

    Dani & Vincent - American Smooth/Viennese Waltz this week. If they survive they'll have a latin - Charleston, Paso or Rumba.
    Denise & James - Salsa this week. If they survive they'll have a ballroom - AT, Quickstep or Tango.
    Kimberley & Pasha - probably Jive this week but not outright stated yet. If that is correct and they survive they'll have a ballroom - AS, AT or Waltz.
    Lisa & Robin - Quickstep this week. If they survive they'll have another ballroom - AS, AT or Waltz.
    Louis & Flavia - Charleston this week. If they survive they'll have a ballroom - and we know they're doing the AT as their new dance in the final if they get there. So it'll be Foxtrot or Quickstep.
    Michael & Natalie - Samba this week. If they survive it'll be another latin - Charleston, Paso or Rumba.
    Nicky & Karen - Argentine Tango this week. If they survive it'll be a latin - Paso, Salsa or Samba.

    It's looking like a Michael vs Nicky DO off then.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,353
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    Would Louis do the quickstep as he did a quickstep inspired American Smooth? Would that be his dance he misses (assuming he makes the final of course) or has another dance been ruled out already for him?
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    Mrs-MopMrs-Mop Posts: 902
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    Dani might be doing VW...
    People (amazingly) often mistake Vienna/Venice which would explain the " going all Italian" tweet :eek::eek::eek:
    Should be very good if she is....AS too with Italian music:confused:
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    cwickhamcwickham Posts: 10,272
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    Would Louis do the quickstep as he did a quickstep inspired American Smooth? Would that be his dance he misses (assuming he makes the final of course) or has another dance been ruled out already for him?

    Doing the American Smooth doesn't stop you from then doing just the dance the AS was based on - loads of people have done a foxtrot-based AS and then done the normal foxtrot later on.
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    SeasideLadySeasideLady Posts: 20,777
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    Mrs-Mop wrote: »
    Dani might be doing VW...
    People (amazingly) often mistake Vienna/Venice which would explain the " going all Italian" tweet :eek::eek::eek:
    Should be very good if she is....AS too with Italian music:confused:

    Really looking forward to it - always love Vincent's routines. I recall when he did a foxtrot with Felicity, it was a very simple classic routine which he said was an Italian style foxtrot. Wonder if that's what Dani meant - a dance with an Italian feel to the choreography ? I think it more likely that the music is Italian - song or artist perhaps.
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    Alli-FAlli-F Posts: 32,519
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    cwickham wrote: »
    Doing the American Smooth doesn't stop you from then doing just the dance the AS was based on - loads of people have done a foxtrot-based AS and then done the normal foxtrot later on.



    Exactly, but I always find it very weird that you do the AS before you've done the dance it was based on. It's meant to be what you learned earlier plus flashy lifts and more out of hold or that's what it used to be at the beginning of the show. :rolleyes:

    I suppose Flavia could have done a waltz based AS though but it didn't fit the music. :confused:
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    SaraV1308SaraV1308 Posts: 9,760
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    Mrs-Mop wrote: »
    Dani might be doing VW...
    People (amazingly) often mistake Vienna/Venice which would explain the " going all Italian" tweet :eek::eek::eek:
    Should be very good if she is....AS too with Italian music:confused:
    Really looking forward to it - always love Vincent's routines. I recall when he did a foxtrot with Felicity, it was a very simple classic routine which he said was an Italian style foxtrot. Wonder if that's what Dani meant - a dance with an Italian feel to the choreography ? I think it more likely that the music is Italian - song or artist perhaps.

    I think the dance will either have Italian music or an Italian feel to it. Vincent especially (but Flavia too) has quite a collection of Italian feel waltzes and Viennese waltzes that they use.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,353
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    cwickham wrote: »
    Doing the American Smooth doesn't stop you from then doing just the dance the AS was based on - loads of people have done a foxtrot-based AS and then done the normal foxtrot later on.

    Oh no I understand that, but I still find American Smooths and foxtrots can look quite different, but a quickstep is going to look similar to his AS - except perhaps have more impact in a smaller space - so I wondered if Flavia would bother doing the quickstep in case people don't vote because it looks the same, or the judges criticise for the same reason etc.
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    cwickhamcwickham Posts: 10,272
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    Kimberley def has the jive - see her twitter. Dani's dance will be confirmed on ITT later tonight - either VW or AS but I tend towards the former as we haven't had one in a few weeks.
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    CamisCamis Posts: 13,552
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    I missed ITT - did Dani and Vincent confirm their dance?
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    cwickhamcwickham Posts: 10,272
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    Yes, they're doing the VW.

    Final list:
    Dani & Vincent - Viennese Waltz
    Denise & James - Salsa
    Kimberley & Pasha - Jive
    Lisa & Robin - Quickstep
    Louis & Flavia - Charleston
    Michael & Natalie - Samba
    Nicky & Karen - Argentine Tango
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    CamisCamis Posts: 13,552
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    cwickham wrote: »
    Yes, they're doing the VW.

    Final list:
    Dani & Vincent - Viennese Waltz
    Denise & James - Salsa
    Kimberley & Pasha - Jive
    Lisa & Robin - Quickstep
    Louis & Flavia - Charleston
    Michael & Natalie - Samba
    Nicky & Karen - Argentine Tango

    Great, thanks. Good mix of dances.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 13,678
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    I wonder what line they'll take on Lisa now she's back to a 'fun' dance which usually scores highly. Will they overmark her like before or give her something more realistic now we're down to the business end of the contest?

    Think Dani's VW might be the one to watch this week. Michael's Samba will be on the other end of the spectrum entirely... and am interested to see how Nicky and Denise do on their dances which on paper don't sound good but could turn out better than expected.

    Also I would be surprised if Louis doesn't do a QS at some point even having done QS AS -- it's typically a very high scoring dance, good for collecting those 10s, and may coincide with the 'breakthrough'.
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    cwickhamcwickham Posts: 10,272
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    So now we know all the dances, here's some boring statistics about the week ahead:

    In terms of average judges' points, the celebs are currently ordered as follows: Denise, Kimberley, Dani, Louis, Lisa, Nicky, Michael. Louis has slipped from first position to fourth since Halloween week; to overtake Dani on averages again he needs to score 3 or more points better than her. That's the only improvement he can feasibly make this week as he needs to score 9 or more points than Kimberley, and the only way he can reclaim top spot is by scoring 24 or more better than Denise! Down at the bottom, Michael needs to score 7 points or better this week to overtake Nicky. Unless Louis beats Dani on the leaderboard (which would be the first time he had done so since week 4) it is unlikely the order of averages will change this week.
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    StigOfTheKrumpStigOfTheKrump Posts: 36,363
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    Here are the songs. :)
    Kimberley and Pasha – Jive to Land of 1000 Dances by Wilson Picket

    Denise and James – Salsa to Rhythm Of The Night by Valeria

    Louis and Flavia – Charleston to Dr Wanna Do by Caro Emerald

    Lisa and Robin – Quickstep to Bring Me Sunshine by Jive Aces

    Michael and Natalie – Samba to Tequila by The Champs

    Nicky and Karen – Argentine Tango to Skyfall by Adele

    Dani and Vincent – Viennese Waltz to That’s Amore by Dean Martin

    I like Louis' and Lisa's songs - but Nicky's is just plain odd.
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    dondfan998dondfan998 Posts: 17,339
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    Favorite songs are Kimberley, Louis (let's hope he shows personality).

    Nicky's song isn't an AT....

    Michael's just sounds like a recipe for disaster.
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    Mrs FMrs F Posts: 8,232
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    thanks Stig

    going off to have a listen to the ones I dont know

    Oh good, that'll mean the training clips will be up shortly..hopefully
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