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Old 25-11-2012, 15:12
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I try to write objectively and dispassionately but I am amused by some of the more ... passionate posts on here.

Really, does it matter the 'wrong' person wins the X Factor? Especially knowing they are more likely to flop than have a fabulous career - the runner up very often does better in the long run: JLS, Rebecca, Olly are three examples.

It won't affect your life whoever wins.
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Old 25-11-2012, 15:16
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No it doesn't matter - but you have to land in the top 4 to have a shot... if going by previous years

if you get into the top 4 it doesn't matter at all really.
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Old 25-11-2012, 15:18
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It doesn't matter one iota. The chosen ones have already been decided and the wrong winner will sink without trace. It's not a singing contest, it's a showcase for Cowell and his puppets.

By the new year, we'll struggle to remember any of them
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Old 25-11-2012, 15:27
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It doesn't matter at all. The act that wins XF will be the one that gets the most public votes. The public has made some dire decisions in the past and their chosen ones have sunk into oblivion. If, as looks possible, Chris wins this years XF. the world will not end and neither will Chris become an international recording sensation.

Generally the 2nd, 3rd and 4th placed acts do better than the winner, Ella may have a shot too.
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Old 25-11-2012, 15:27
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It doesn't. They're all shit
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Old 25-11-2012, 15:27
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It doesn't to me. I just have fun talking about the show.
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Old 25-11-2012, 15:28
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it's never mattered in the past and it certainly won't matter this time either
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Old 25-11-2012, 15:28
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It doesn't matter once the competition is finished. It is just good to see the act you think is most deserving have their moment of glory on the final night. I'm not arsed what happens after that to be honest.
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Old 25-11-2012, 15:29
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It doesn't matter who wins but it matters who stays to the end.

Without James, the show would be unwatchable for me.
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Old 25-11-2012, 15:29
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they do NOT have to land in the top 4 to have a shot, Ella is not in the top 4 and has been given a record deal, Joseph whelan never even got to live shows and got a record deal. If they are meant to be famous they will be
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Old 25-11-2012, 15:30
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OP is a bit smarmy, so what if people want to be passionate about X Factor and care who wins, if you don't like it then go elsewhere and try discussing it with people who don't give a shit.
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Old 25-11-2012, 15:31
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It's just a bit of fun during the competition. Really couldn't give a rats arse what happens afterwards. (Other than I might actually go and Rylan if he tours - which will be a first!)
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Old 25-11-2012, 15:32
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I try to write objectively and dispassionately but I am amused by some of the more ... passionate posts on here.

Really, does it matter the 'wrong' person wins the X Factor? Especially knowing they are more likely to flop than have a fabulous career - the runner up very often does better in the long run: JLS, Rebecca, Olly are three examples.

It won't affect your life whoever wins.
Totally agree ..but then the whole competition becomes worthless..and you end up with where it is today
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Old 25-11-2012, 15:33
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(Other than I might actually go and see Rylan if he tours - which will be a first!)
I expect he'll be playing G-A-Y every Saturday night until the end of time.
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Old 25-11-2012, 15:38
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Totally agree ..but then the whole competition becomes worthless..and you end up with where it is today
I agree but it became worthless many years ago and it was not the voters who made it that way, X factor themselves are the party who is responsible for making it worthless with the year after year of the drivel getting to the live shows to begin with, if they want the audience to take the show seriously then they need to take it seriously themselves first
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Old 25-11-2012, 16:01
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I try to write objectively and dispassionately but I am amused by some of the more ... passionate posts on here.

Really, does it matter the 'wrong' person wins the X Factor? Especially knowing they are more likely to flop than have a fabulous career - the runner up very often does better in the long run: JLS, Rebecca, Olly are three examples.

It won't affect your life whoever wins.
Haven't found much success outside of the UK have they? But they have done well for themselves but it's only a matter of time before they're dropped or split.
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Old 25-11-2012, 16:05
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they do NOT have to land in the top 4 to have a shot, Ella is not in the top 4 and has been given a record deal, Joseph whelan never even got to live shows and got a record deal. If they are meant to be famous they will be
Getting a record deal doesn't necessarily equate to selling records.... hopefully Ella will do well I vaguely remember Joseph's name, what season was he on?
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Old 25-11-2012, 16:08
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Getting a record deal doesn't necessarily equate to selling records.... hopefully Ella will do well I vaguely remember Joseph's name, what season was he on?
Joseph Whelan was this season, he was the rock guy with the little boy, his manager is now Paul hardcastle and he is signed to a rock label with artistic freedom, he has a single being released at Christmas called Wish
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Old 25-11-2012, 16:13
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Yes it doesn't matter who wins, it's what you do with the exposure that counts. People like Alexandra and Leona have cemented their successes by setting records within the music industry internationally, artists like that who represent the UK on a world stage supersede winning in my view. Cher Lloyd, 1D and Rebecca have also done well for themselves as a result. Those 5 are the most successful acts from the show tbh.
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Old 25-11-2012, 16:19
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It matters because if you vote for the right person, Simon Cowell becomes richer. Worth the effort and the money, methink.
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Old 25-11-2012, 16:26
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Haven't found much success outside of the UK have they? But they have done well for themselves but it's only a matter of time before they're dropped or split.
I think it speaks volumes about the nature of a person that has to to end a sentence of a band splitting or being dropped with a smiley.
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Old 25-11-2012, 16:31
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I try to write objectively and dispassionately but I am amused by some of the more ... passionate posts on here.

Really, does it matter the 'wrong' person wins the X Factor? Especially knowing they are more likely to flop than have a fabulous career - the runner up very often does better in the long run: JLS, Rebecca, Olly are three examples.

It won't affect your life whoever wins.
I agree, but I'd say that doesn't just apply to the possible winners going out early but also to some of the more average..you'd think the end of the world was on us, when some of the acts go out..

I remember all sorts of fuss and pledges of "undying loyalty," declared in the name of artists like Lloyd Daniels, for example..and now, nobody cares..

I think it's OK to be passionate about somebody, but agreed, it isn't going to make a blind bit of difference to our lives, whoever wins..

It might to theirs, if they start off thinking they've "made it," and end up, 6 months later, working back in ASDA or something.

But then, these people know the score and they also know the history of the winning acts who've not gone on to be as successful as some of the "losers."

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Old 25-11-2012, 16:32
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I agree but it became worthless many years ago and it was not the voters who made it that way, X factor themselves are the party who is responsible for making it worthless with the year after year of the drivel getting to the live shows to begin with, if they want the audience to take the show seriously then they need to take it seriously themselves first
I totally agree but its a difficult subject that has been debated time and time again on these forums
Do you bring the best 12 act to to to the table at the beginning of the live shows or a mixture that might appesl to an overall audience
Do you promote the winner to the extent that the prize means something or do you promote who you feel will be the most commercial ..with the success that has been seen now and in the past
Do you try to manipulate the public vote by judges comments and by newspaper articles or just let them perform to the best of their ability
Its a difficult situation ..get it right and the public will continue to love x factor ..get it wrong then x factor will die ..and then there is no platform for anyone to have success
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Old 25-11-2012, 16:34
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"get it right and the public will continue to love x factor ..get it wrong then x factor will die ..and then there is no platform for anyone to have success."

Oh, I don't know...there's always "The Voice."



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Old 25-11-2012, 16:39
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To be fair, I don't think anyone has ever worked in Asda after being on the show. I've read about soap stars working behind the bar of a pub ("helping out") than anyone from the show. Very often they get a part of a cheesy touring "Jukebox Musical", but it's still singing, it's still making a living from their 'talent'.
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