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Old 25-11-2012, 17:41
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Everyone is saying how great the iPad is, so I popped into my local Apple store to see what all the fuss is about, in the hope that I would be blown away enough to treat myself to the latest model.
It was all very clever even if it was only doing the same things that my iPhone does, but what I was most disappointed with was the picture quality.
I tuned into BBCi player and the quality of the video was terrible. I am sure it would be fine if I was watching uploaded content, but as for streaming, my 7 year old desktop PCs monitor has a far better picture. I even tried other websites, but the video was equally as bad, even content that was supposedly HD.
For 450 smackers I would at least expect it to be clever enough to make streaming video look good.
Perhaps I was expecting too much for this apparently amazing device. Perhaps if it cost 100, I would give it a second look.
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Old 25-11-2012, 18:00
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Everyone is saying how great the iPad is, so I popped into my local Apple store to see what all the fuss is about, in the hope that I would be blown away enough to treat myself to the latest model.
It was all very clever even if it was only doing the same things that my iPhone does, but what I was most disappointed with was the picture quality.
I tuned into BBCi player and the quality of the video was terrible. I am sure it would be fine if I was watching uploaded content, but as for streaming, my 7 year old desktop PCs monitor has a far better picture. I even tried other websites, but the video was equally as bad, even content that was supposedly HD.
For 450 smackers I would at least expect it to be clever enough to make streaming video look good.
Perhaps I was expecting too much for this apparently amazing device. Perhaps if it cost 100, I would give it a second look.
It will look better on the iPad 2 (but text will look worse).
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Old 25-11-2012, 18:01
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Regarding your iPlayer quality issues, isn't this because the bandwidth wasn't good enough to stream HD content? iPlayer automatically feeds you the bandwidth the network can muster without stuttering.

So it would be fine at home, but crap on the wifi in the Store perhaps?
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Old 25-11-2012, 18:12
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Hi guys.
Better on the iPad 2? Hmm I should have tried that one before I left the store.

The video wasn't stuttering, it just looked a bit rubbish... like a badly ripped VHS tape
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Old 25-11-2012, 18:17
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Everyone is saying how great the iPad is, so I popped into my local Apple store to see what all the fuss is about, in the hope that I would be blown away enough to treat myself to the latest model.
It was all very clever even if it was only doing the same things that my iPhone does, but what I was most disappointed with was the picture quality.
I tuned into BBCi player and the quality of the video was terrible. I am sure it would be fine if I was watching uploaded content, but as for streaming, my 7 year old desktop PCs monitor has a far better picture. I even tried other websites, but the video was equally as bad, even content that was supposedly HD.
For 450 smackers I would at least expect it to be clever enough to make streaming video look good.
Perhaps I was expecting too much for this apparently amazing device. Perhaps if it cost 100, I would give it a second look.
That's OK. You don't have to buy one. Though my iPad 2 seems to stream BBC iPlayer and other content very well; it seems just as capable as my Nexus 7. I suppose the advantage it has over your 7 year old desktop PC is speed and portability. But people value different things
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Old 25-11-2012, 18:21
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In my eyes (and I should say I am a geek) an iPad isn't a desktop PC replacement, but it is a laptop replacement.
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Old 25-11-2012, 18:22
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That's OK. You don't have to buy one. Though my iPad 2 seems to stream BBC iPlayer and other content very well; it seems just as capable as my Nexus 7. I suppose the advantage it has over your 7 year old desktop PC is speed and portability. But people value different things
Yes I have been considering the Nexus 7. I'll try that in-store and see how the streaming compares to the iPad.
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Old 25-11-2012, 18:24
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In my eyes (and I should say I am a geek) an iPad isn't a desktop PC replacement, but it is a laptop replacement.
A laptop replacement with a wasted number of pixels as far as I have seen so far.
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Old 25-11-2012, 18:27
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The video wasn't stuttering, it just looked a bit rubbish... like a badly ripped VHS tape
Yes, you've totally misunderstood what i was trying to say.

iPlayer gives you the feed your bandwidth can cope with. Because the shop has a crap bandwidth, then it only gives you a crap quality feed, like a badly ripped VHS tape.
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Old 25-11-2012, 18:33
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Yes I have been considering the Nexus 7. I'll try that in-store and see how the streaming compares to the iPad.
Unfortunately iPlayer won't work out of the box currently. The app should be updated fairly soon though.
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Old 25-11-2012, 18:34
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Yes, you've totally misunderstood what i was trying to say.

iPlayer gives you the feed your bandwidth can cope with. Because the shop has a crap bandwidth, then it only gives you a crap quality feed, like a badly ripped VHS tape.
Oh OK, I assumed that low bandwidth would just make the image stutter.
If I do buy it, I can only hope my bandwidth is good at home.
I get mostly 3 bars (occasionally 2) on my iPhone at home, but of course the screen is too small to tell how good the picture will look on an iPad.
I have the Virgin-Media super-hub. Apparently its not great, but it is pushing out 30meg so hopefully better than what was going on in the shop.
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Old 25-11-2012, 18:47
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There must be better stuff than the iPlayer to test out! The iPlayer is pretty appalling on Android too. My Nexus 7 can handle 1080p without a blip but you wouldn't know it from the blocky mess that the BBC has released. Check out the Youtube HD trailers next time.
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Old 25-11-2012, 18:55
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There must be better stuff than the iPlayer to test out! The iPlayer is pretty appalling on Android too. My Nexus 7 can handle 1080p without a blip but you wouldn't know it from the blocky mess that the BBC has released. Check out the Youtube HD trailers next time.
Yes I should have probably tried more than BBCi / ITV player and 4OD, but these are the channels I would want to be watching.
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Old 25-11-2012, 18:58
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There must be better stuff than the iPlayer to test out! The iPlayer is pretty appalling on Android too. My Nexus 7 can handle 1080p without a blip but you wouldn't know it from the blocky mess that the BBC has released. Check out the Youtube HD trailers next time.
Mine only handles 720p
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Old 25-11-2012, 19:33
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Firstly, BBC iPlayer for iPhone and iPad doesn't support HD at the moment. So there's that.

It all depends on what you're streaming, where you're streaming it from, and your available bandwidth. Some stuff from Netflix looks absolutely fantastic, for example.
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Old 25-11-2012, 19:40
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Was just watching some of the new movie trailers on the iTunes app. The picture is bloody awesome!
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Old 25-11-2012, 19:56
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Was just watching some of the new movie trailers on the iTunes app. The picture is bloody awesome!
Well I guess I can always watch trailers all the time then, rather than actually watching what I want to see on it.
It all sounds a bit limited.
Netflix just sounds like a place where im going to spend more money!
Anyway, if it is just a bandwidth issue in the shop, then hopefully it will look grand at home,otherwise they can refund me the money.
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Old 25-11-2012, 20:22
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Btw, I don't know it's just a bandwidth issue. It was merely a suggestion. But I know iPlayer does compensate for bandwidth for stutter.
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Old 25-11-2012, 20:30
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Well I guess I can always watch trailers all the time then, rather than actually watching what I want to see on it.
It all sounds a bit limited.
Netflix just sounds like a place where im going to spend more money!
Anyway, if it is just a bandwidth issue in the shop, then hopefully it will look grand at home,otherwise they can refund me the money.
Well you can do what you like, but I tend to watch films and/or TV shows and most of the time the picture quality is stunning.
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Old 25-11-2012, 20:54
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I'll pop into Curry's next weekend and see what the streaming results are like compared to the Apple Store.
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Old 25-11-2012, 21:06
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Well I guess I can always watch trailers all the time then, rather than actually watching what I want to see on it.
It all sounds a bit limited.
Netflix just sounds like a place where im going to spend more money!
Anyway, if it is just a bandwidth issue in the shop, then hopefully it will look grand at home,otherwise they can refund me the money.
What do you mean when you say limited? What do you actually want to stream on it?
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Old 25-11-2012, 21:14
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What do you mean when you say limited? What do you actually want to stream on it?
I thought it would be nice to catch up on terrestrial programs in bed: BBC / ITV / 4OD. Maybe its happier streaming paid for content.
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Old 25-11-2012, 21:31
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I thought it would be nice to catch up on terrestrial programs in bed: BBC / ITV / 4OD. Maybe its happier streaming paid for content.
They're limited by the quality of the streams that the various broadcasters provide. It's nothing to do with whether it's paid or not.

ITV catchup is poor on all platforms. 4OD is okay but not great. BBC iPlayer, as I said, doesn't have HD content yet for the iPad.

This isn't a limitation of the iPad though. Other than the Nexus 10, you won't find a better tablet screen.
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Old 25-11-2012, 21:35
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Hi guys.
Better on the iPad 2? Hmm I should have tried that one before I left the store.

The video wasn't stuttering, it just looked a bit rubbish... like a badly ripped VHS tape
I watch videos fine on my Ipad 2. The quality is really good.
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Old 26-11-2012, 03:21
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Try using tv catchup It does high quality streams. Also try some YouTube hd clips. My dad has an Ipad 3 and hd content looks really good on it. Don't use iplayer as a gauge to judge pic quality there are other video content providers to try. Do some research and then look up some other stuff.
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