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Hmm - Tulisa commenting on what RYLAN has had to put up with this series..
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rombod
25-11-2012
Originally Posted by Darcyprincess:
“It seems that her run in with Lord Sugar has not done her any favours either, calling him a ugly hobbit and him asking Simon Cowell to sack her. I say bring it on Simon Cowell, SACK TULISA!”

I don't like Tulisa but if she is nasty I dread to think what that makes you.

Originally Posted by HelenSnowflake:
“I think the difference between Louis and Tulisa is that you know that Tulisa says it with intent.”

Hah. You mean she's female.
Darcyprincess
25-11-2012
Originally Posted by kaceyy:
“seems like theres no difference between you and your opinion on tulisa, you and alot of the anti tulisa members on here seem just as hateful as what you claim she is, quite sad the amount of bitterness online about her tbh, as if louis has been less "bitchy" towards chris.”

But the majority of us have not been personal about Tulisa like she has about Christopher but then bigged up Rylan. Tulisa has also been very rude to Gary and laughed in his face too, especially when it looked like he was going to lose all of his acts in the first few weeks. But Gary had the last laugh on her last week didn't he, sadly at the expense of poor Ella!
Leeah
25-11-2012
Ohhh Tulisa has a fan
rombod
25-11-2012
Originally Posted by Darcyprincess:
“But the majority of us have not been personal about Tulisa like she has about Christopher but then bigged up Rylan. Tulisa has also been very rude to Gary and laughed in his face too, especially when it looked like he was going to lose all of his acts in the first few weeks. But Gary had the last laugh on her last week didn't he, sadly at the expense of poor Ella!”

Wow. You're actually hilarious. How has she been personal about Christopher? Examples? And Gary called her Fag Ash breath whilst berating Rylan every week but some how you overlooked that. Seriously, you're hilarious.
HelenSnowflake
25-11-2012
Originally Posted by rombod:
“I don't like Tulisa but if she is nasty I dread to think what that makes you.



Hah. You mean she's female.”

No, Nicole is far more articulate in putting her point across and doesn't resort to half of the stuff Tulisa has.
rombod
25-11-2012
Originally Posted by HelenSnowflake:
“No, Nicole is far more articulate in putting her point across and doesn't resort to half of the stuff Tulisa has.”

Such as? Examples?
rivercity_rules
25-11-2012
Tulisa commenting on comments made to Rylan where people are hoping he dies and catches aids is hardly comparable to Tulisa finding a Christopher performance Creepy.

Plus I'm sure those voting to "mess with the system" and to annoy the judges will be doing Chris more harm long term when he sets himself up for an almighty, and far more public fail when his singles and albums are released, and all those who voted for him have no intention of purchasing either. Being told you're not that great in front of an audience of less than 10m or national embarrassment when you're dropped within months? Which is crueller?
imagine___
25-11-2012
Originally Posted by Darcyprincess:
“Has it happens, as much as Tulisa has been a nightmare about Christopher she did actually vote to save Carolynne in week 1. It was Louis that cocked up by first of all saving Carolynne and then going back on his word after the producer whispered in his ear. It was a total fix because it was so obvious the producers knew that Rylan had more votes than Carolynne. I felt so sorry for Carolynne that night because Louis messed her about something awful!”

Oooh yes, my apologies! It was against Kye when she saved Rylan, yes? Massive apologies for getting it confused.

Louis also messed it up at judges houses with her the year before, right? Ouch, that poor girl!
Darcyprincess
25-11-2012
Originally Posted by rombod:
“I don't like Tulisa but if she is nasty I dread to think what that makes you.



Hah. You mean she's female.”

Now you are being personal about forum members and where have you seen me be personal about Tulisas looks or call her names like some people have. Her place is to be a judge and give a critique on the contestants singing, not slate them and be personal about them just because she does not like them? Tulisa seems to have been full of anger this year and Christopher has got the brunt of it and at times Gary too! She needs to sort out her personal life and not bring it to the shows!
rombod
25-11-2012
Originally Posted by Darcyprincess:
“Now you are being personal about forum members and where have you seen me be personal about Tulisas looks or call her names like some people have. Her place is to be a judge and give a critique on the contestants singing, not slate them and be personal about them just because she does not like them? Tulisa seems to have been full of anger this year and Christopher has got the brunt of it and at times Gary too! She needs to sort out her personal life and not bring it to the shows!”

Most of your forum posts are far angrier than anything she's said. That's not personal, that's just an objective observation. Okay, I'm trying to understand, though. I really would like to, but no one is giving me examples. Do you have any?
Mitch 123
25-11-2012
Originally Posted by rombod:
“Tulisa DID send Rylan home in week one. And she hasn't been "abusing" Chris, she's always said he's vocally strong, just cheesy and not her thing. How is that abuse? Gary has been far harsher to Rylan than she has to Chris. God, people here will use anything to justify their weird prejudices. It's just embarrassing at this point.”

DS is such a ridiculous place sometimes. Keyboard warriors and all that
Darcyprincess
25-11-2012
Originally Posted by rombod:
“Wow. You're actually hilarious. How has she been personal about Christopher? Examples? And Gary called her Fag Ash breath whilst berating Rylan every week but some how you overlooked that. Seriously, you're hilarious.”

Did you actually watch last nights show??

Gary called Tulisa fag ash breath when she sat there and ranted in Garys face for what seemed like ages and I personally did not blame him. She had been having digs at Gary, constantly telling him that it was his fault for the cheesy songs he kept giving Christopher and then constantly calling Christopher cheesy too! I also think that Tulisa is very bitter this week because she knows he has been topping the votes and because Ella went last week. I loved Ella and wanted her to win but Tulisa did her no favours with some of HER song choices. So to have a go at Gary about his song choices for Christopher and constantly calling them cheesy makes her a hypocrite in my mind!
rombod
25-11-2012
Originally Posted by Darcyprincess:
“Did you actually watch last nights show??

Gary called Tulisa fag ash breath when she sat there and ranted in Garys face for what seemed like ages and I personally did not blame him. She had been having digs at Gary, constantly telling him that it was his fault for the cheesy songs he kept giving Christopher and then constantly calling Christopher cheesy too! I also think that Tulisa is very bitter this week because she knows he has been topping the votes and because Ella went last week. I loved Ella and wanted her to win but Tulisa did her no favours with some of HER song choices. So to have a go at Gary about his song choices for Christopher and constantly calling them cheesy makes her a hypocrite in my mind!”

It was his fault, he picked the songs. Christopher is cheesy. Everyone is unanimous in that, and I say that as someone who wants him to win! So Gary goes personal and you can see why, yet you criticise Tulisa for going personal then can't give any examples of her doing so? And yes I did watch last night, when she said vocally he was good but the staging was creepy and funny. All true. Sorry but... laughable.
kaceyy
25-11-2012
Originally Posted by Darcyprincess:
“But the majority of us have not been personal about Tulisa like she has about Christopher but then bigged up Rylan. Tulisa has also been very rude to Gary and laughed in his face too, especially when it looked like he was going to lose all of his acts in the first few weeks. But Gary had the last laugh on her last week didn't he, sadly at the expense of poor Ella!”

i wont patronize you but i will tell you that there has been alot of personal stuff said about tulisa, going from her "having breath like fag ash and cock" to stuff about her sex life/ and apparent chavyness. its sad and it seems its okay for people on here to be rude/abhorrent about people but the ones they judge can't exercise the same rights? despite the fact i don't think tulisa has been worst to chris than louis has been, she seems to be getting most of the blame for it.
Menk
25-11-2012
Originally Posted by rivercity_rules:
“Tulisa commenting on comments made to Rylan where people are hoping he dies and catches aids is hardly comparable to Tulisa finding a Christopher performance Creepy.

Plus I'm sure those voting to "mess with the system" and to annoy the judges will be doing Chris more harm long term when he sets himself up for an almighty, and far more public fail when his singles and albums are released, and all those who voted for him have no intention of purchasing either. Being told you're not that great in front of an audience of less than 10m or national embarrassment when you're dropped within months? Which is crueller?”

I would say the former is definitely crueller - I would say that the news of being dropped by a record company will reach far fewer people than the massive audience that tunes in on a Saturday night.
Darcyprincess
25-11-2012
Originally Posted by rombod:
“Most of your forum posts are far angrier than anything she's said. That's not personal, that's just an objective observation. Okay, I'm trying to understand, though. I really would like to, but no one is giving me examples. Do you have any?”

My only anger this year is that decent singers have gone home over Rylan but we have the likes of Tulisa and Louis bigging up Rylan all the time but putting down Christopher. If you did not think that both Tulisa and Louis were a total disgrace last night with how they laughed at Christopher whilst he was singing Fernando and then the nasty inuendo comments they made about the naked dancers then you have totally missed the point, especially when Tulisa told Christopher how funny she thought it was. It was totally unprofessional of both of them, not just Tulisa but Louis as well!
Skip65
25-11-2012
Originally Posted by rombod:
“Tulisa DID send Rylan home in week one. And she hasn't been "abusing" Chris, she's always said he's vocally strong, just cheesy and not her thing. How is that abuse? Gary has been far harsher to Rylan than she has to Chris. God, people here will use anything to justify their weird prejudices. It's just embarrassing at this point.”

Must be hot in that bubble you live in.
rombod
25-11-2012
Originally Posted by Darcyprincess:
“My only anger this year is that decent singers have gone home over Rylan but we have the likes of Tulisa and Louis bigging up Rylan all the time but putting down Christopher. If you did not think that both Tulisa and Louis were a total disgrace last night with how they laughed at Christopher whilst he was singing Fernando and then the nasty inuendo comments they made about the naked dancers then you have totally missed the point, especially when Tulisa told Christopher how funny she thought it was. It was totally unprofessional of both of them, not just Tulisa but Louis as well!”


It was funny though! She said his vocals were good. Gary has outright slated Rylan and gone personal yet you excuse him without batting an eyelid. Sorry but it seems like you're twisting the truth to justify your preconceived dislike of Tulisa rather than letting the truth inform your dislike.

Originally Posted by Skip65:
“Must be hot in that bubble you live in.”

I don't like Tulisa... I don't want her back next series... but I just call it as I see it, and as I see it people's intense vitriol towards her is unjustified. Can you give examples and join the debate, or are you more comfortable making weak digs from the sidelines?
Darcyprincess
25-11-2012
Originally Posted by kaceyy:
“i wont patronize you but i will tell you that there has been alot of personal stuff said about tulisa, going from her "having breath like fag ash and cock" to stuff about her sex life/ and apparent chavyness. its sad and it seems its okay for people on here to be rude/abhorrent about people but the ones they judge can't exercise the same rights? despite the fact i don't think tulisa has been worst to chris than louis has been, she seems to be getting most of the blame for it.”

That might have been said on Twitter but the majority of the people on here have stuck to her comments about Christopher or how rude she has been to Gary this year. Tulisa has been nothing like the judge she was last year when she won with Little Mix. I know that a number of people were not happy with her about Mischa B and that it was started with Louis again making the first remark but they both went after her in a similar way but the dislike for Christopher this year has been so much worse than that!

You will not see me personal about Tulisas looks, about her being a chav or talk of her sex tape, it has all been about her attitude this year and how awful she has been to Christopher! So many people on here think the same, its like Tulisa is not happy in her personal life and she has taken it out on Christopher and just been so different this year! With so many of the same opinion, we cannot all be wrong can we?
Skip65
25-11-2012
Originally Posted by rombod:
“It was his fault, he picked the songs. Christopher is cheesy. Everyone is unanimous in that, and I say that as someone who wants him to win! So Gary goes personal and you can see why, yet you criticise Tulisa for going personal then can't give any examples of her doing so? And yes I did watch last night, when she said vocally he was good but the staging was creepy and funny. All true. Sorry but... laughable.”

so you would find someone laughing in your face why you are waiting for a honest comment , at say a piece of art you have just worked your backside of to complete. As being ok. Would you be fine if someone said look I don't like you, on national tv. Telling him he is killing the songs he sings each week. Telling viewers he doesn't deserve to be there on extra factor. Last night Gary even said he was feeling uncomfortable about the comments from her and Louis . Is that some examples for you, or do you wish to keep burying your head in the sand.
Skip65
25-11-2012
Originally Posted by rivercity_rules:
“Tulisa commenting on comments made to Rylan where people are hoping he dies and catches aids is hardly comparable to Tulisa finding a Christopher performance Creepy.

Plus I'm sure those voting to "mess with the system" and to annoy the judges will be doing Chris more harm long term when he sets himself up for an almighty, and far more public fail when his singles and albums are released, and all those who voted for him have no intention of purchasing either. Being told you're not that great in front of an audience of less than 10m or national embarrassment when you're dropped within months? Which is crueller?”

You really really dislike him don't you. So Chris being told he was going to get stabbed is fine as well.
Since Yesterday
25-11-2012
Tulisa generally commented on song choices and staging, whilst complimenting Chris on his vocals. Both are largely beyond his control. Barlow however consistently criticised Rylan's vocals, and made frequent references to his lack of talent. There's quite a marked difference between the two scenarios (although it's all fair comment in my book). I see nothing whatsoever to suggest hypocrisy on Tulisa's part.
E05297535
25-11-2012
Originally Posted by rombod:
“Most of your forum posts are far angrier than anything she's said. That's not personal, that's just an objective observation. Okay, I'm trying to understand, though. I really would like to, but no one is giving me examples. Do you have any?”

Excuse me but having you been watching the series this year or not....from day 1 both she and louis has been verbally cruel to Chris...it started with the performance, last night it went to the outfit he was/wasnt suppose to wear!!! To add insult to injury, they both sat there laughing at him in front of his face!!! Wonder if they now know why Chris is getting so much votes????
rombod
25-11-2012
Originally Posted by Skip65:
“so you would find someone laughing in your face why you are waiting for a honest comment , at say a piece of art you have just worked your backside of to complete. As being ok. Would you be fine if someone said look I don't like you, on national tv. Telling him he is killing the songs he sings each week. Telling viewers he doesn't deserve to be there on extra factor. Last night Gary even said he was feeling uncomfortable about the comments from her and Louis . Is that some examples for you, or do you wish to keep burying your head in the sand.”

The staging was funny and it wasn't Christopher's decision. She apologised for laughing and praised his voice. Louis was far worse but you overlooked that.

She has never said she didn't like him, only that she isn't a fan of his type of performance, the same as Gary does to Rylan every week. Somehow it's only a crime when she does it.

On Xtra Factor she repeatedly says he does deserve to be there because people are voting for him..

And she has never once said he killed a song, never mind every week.

Were those really supposed to be examples? Cute. You should probably stick to sniping from the sidelines.
rivercity_rules
25-11-2012
Originally Posted by Skip65:
“You really really dislike him don't you. So Chris being told he was going to get stabbed is fine as well.”

Was this by Tulisa?

The thread is about Tulisa apparently being a hypocrite because she says she doesn't like Christophers performances, yet saying Rylan has been through a lot.

Compare what has been said to Rylan on twitter, which she commented on, to what she has said to Christopher and to call her a hypocrite is ridiculous.

I'm sure she wouldn't want such cruel things being said to any of the acts, she didn't say "oh Rylan you've been through horrible abuse, much worse than Chris" did she?
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