1 & 3/ When did she make this clear? I heard no qualification of this remark, unless it was on the later programme, which I don't watch.

2/ He meant the performance sincerely, ie, it was not played for laughs.

Yes, it has to be said that I think that a lot of people sigh a sigh of relief when Christopher goes through each week but I am now wondering if it is as much for Gary as it is for Christopher? I am no fan of Christophers but I think that Gary has talked the most sense this year and it has been really harsh on him when he has had some talented singers in his category this year like Carolynne and Kye who left as quickly as they did, especially when he believed in them so much!

The likes of Tulisa, Louis and even Nicole has given Gary a hard time and both Nicole and Tulisa have got up and danced when Rylan has been performing and enjoyed Garys discomfort just a little too much for a lot of peoples liking! I think that when Gary was down and fed up with losing his acts the other judges did not show him much compassion but then look how angry Tulisa was last week when Ella left and she was nearly in tears. There was Tulisa telling us all that we should be voting for the better singers, why wasn't she doing this when Kye was in the bottom two with Rylan then and she kept Rylan in? No wonder so many people have called Tulisa a hypocrite this last week!

When will the judges learn that they are there to keep the better singers in the competition, otherwise it comes and bites them on the backside? Now maybe Tulisa just might get it as she did keep Union J in over Rylan this week!

I do actually think that Jahmene will go on to win, I know that some people do not like his "journey" which some call his sob story but he has got a lovely voice and I would be quite happy if he were to win! Although I would love to see the look on Simon Cowells face if Christopher were to win and all the other judges too! Now that would go down well with Gary Barlow and go very nicely with his OBE!

Oh, for god's sake. The point of the thread was NOT whether Tulisa's evaluation of Chris is correct or not. The point of the thread was NOT whether her criticisms of Chris have been worse than Louis's. The point IS HER HYPOCRISY, i.e, smypathising with Rylan for having endured the same kind of crap as Christopher, even though she herself has participated in it.

I don't think she had to make it clear, Rylan and Gary had already commented on the fact their comments to each other were banter, she's not an idiot who would go from hearing that to then comment that Gary had been nasty to him. It's been widely reported this week, and I'm sure Rylan, and the majority of people took her comments as intended.

It may not have been played for laughs, but those men in swimming shorts cavorting around him, was funny, and she said it wasn't his fault, it was Gary's.

Now she's being criticised for dancing, even though poor defenceless gary called the performance amazing? Hilarious.


People on twitter tell Rylan to get aids and die. All Tulisa has done is say she doesn't think Chris is a viable star. People aren't discussing that because it's obvious that she's not being hypocritical.

A quick search on twitter reveals shockingly, or not, if you are used to the morons on twitter that there are several death threats and wishes on twitter for Rylan too...
Probably for every other contestant too. Christopher has had negative comments from some judges every week, but he is far from the first this has happened to. He is probably the first to act like it is some kind of personal and vindictive attack on him...
If you all think that ITV, SyCo et al are not aware of the power of slagging someone off in creating a hero, then you are deluding yourselves...
They know exactly how to get rid of someone by damning them with faint praise... They are a business and already have the option to choose who they sign.
Their only interest in the show is keeping voting and viewing high and that requires controversy. With viewing down they cannot afford to get rid of the ones triggering protest votes so play it up.

Have to say too, I have not heard Tulisa personally attack Chris, just comment on his performance. She doesn't like it. IS that view not allowed, or is it just not allowed because you do not like her already?

I know.. what about Chris, Tulisa.

Agreed, though I really enjoyed Gary's response something along the lines of:

"Louis do us a favour and shut up will you?"

What it lacked in wit, it made up for in being right on the nail..I've been thinking much the same for the past 8 years, or so..

As for Tulisa..well, I'm none too impressed by her "judging," and her seeming insistence that "old school," songs have to have a make over to make them more "relevant," to today's audience..

Rich.
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Exactly, it is so uncomfortable to see her trying to destroy Christophers confidance, he was nearly in tears last night and she was totally out of order. All these excuses of her apologising for laughing does not take back the nastyness of her comments and her actions! I really cannot get my head around some peoples thinking! When things are said and somebody is made to feel uncomfortable it cannot be taken back however sincere it might sound. Both Louis and Tulisa need to start acting like adults and not little kids!

I watch the performances and the critiques then fast-forward through everything else. I am vaguely aware of Chris getting negative press but not so Rylan (generally) and the homophobic comments had passed me by.

I still stand by my comments re Tulisa's hypocrisy - whether you acknowledge it or not, she has displayed a lack of respect towards Chris knowing that there was already bad publicity surrounding him, not to mention a lot of dislike for him on the social networking sites. Her and Louis have fuelled the flames, but I will happily retract my remarks if she comments on the tough time Chris himself has had when he is eliminated, or after he has won the show.

In what way is her not enjoying a performance, and saying so, "destroying his confidence" look back on her critiques, she praises him where he does well and tries to offer guidance which is ignored. She laughed because it was creepy, which it was, and she blamed Gary for that and said his vocals were good.

If being told someone elses work made a performance creepy, but your own vocals were good, is enough to destroy someones confidence, I don't think the music industry and the public eye is the place for that person.

Yes, somebody after my own heart with what Gary said to Louis. I have wanted to say that to him for years too and shouted it at the television most years when it comes to Louis. He is well past his sell by date!

I also agree with you 100% on Tulisa too. I have just had enough of her this year and find her comments so boring now! I am not overly impressed with Nicole this year either, what with all her food comments and rubbing oil into the boys bodies is really OTT. Gary is the only person that talks sense for me!

But added to her put downs, the laughing and the inuendos its the look on her face when she talks to Christopher. It is just so obvious that she does not like him and you only have to look at Christophers face to know this. Both Louis and Tulisa talk to Christopher in a very demeaning way, always putting him down and making him feel bad about himself. Telling somebody that they have a good voice but they are cheesy on a weekly basis must be soul destroying. Gary even said that he was fed up with their negative comments towards him every week with all the other rubbish that he has to put up with in the week too! Tulisa is completely different with the other contestants!

By the way I didn't find it creepy at all, I think that both Louis and Tulisa were trying to make something out of nothing!

the quotes i made were from statements on here not twitter. However i do see what you're saying, and to an extent you have a point because whether the actual performance last night was creepy/cringey or funny, to laugh at chris while he's awaiting judgement was wrong, although i have to state she did commend him on his great vocals too.

i just think on here tulisa gets way more flak than any other judge and i seem to remember this forum being just as critical of tulisa last year as they are this year, which says to me its not about chris and more so of their hatred for her..

Was it only me that noticed it was Rylan in the final 2 tonight and ended up leaving and not Chris Why would she mention abuse aimed at Chris or apologise for not liking Chris's performances and singing style when saying a goodbye to Rylan?

Imagine if she had though Another reason to label her with some bile like drivel as per.

Tulisa said in week 4, she was sick of the same negative comments every week, and at that point turned it to Gary to try to change things around. Yet again, Mr Borelow turns things around to make others look bad.

They are there to give critiques on performances, and just like Gary repeatedly put down an act he didn't like, Tulisa and Louis have commented on an act they don't like.

Just because Christopher plays the victim doesn't mean they can't be honest. Should they lie? Why should they lose any credibility they have as judges by saying performances which clearly aren't good, and are emotionally void, are great?

As a judge does she have to like him? She said earlier in the series she had tried to like his act, and couldn't because it was dated. She had previously asked for more up to date song choices, which Gary and Chris ignored, almost like they wanted more criticism to further boost the victim card they have played so well this series.

I'm still at a loss as to what part of "you're vocals were great, as usual but I couldn't connect with the performance" is meant as a knock to someone, ok if she just pointed out the negatives, fair enough she'd be a bitch, but she's not. She's giving fair critiques of his performances, from her point of view. You are more than entitled to agree or disagree with her, but to think she is trying to demean him or belittle him, when she always starts off by praising, is a nonsense to be honest. She's just doing her job.

Well any time she speaks without mentioning him, she's trying to deman him, and any time she does mention him she's bullying and leading the pack against him.

This is a 30-odd year old man we are talking about here, one with plenty of experience in performing and life in general given his cruise ship experience and other performing. Of course he is going to be completely defenseless against evil Tulisa, it's not like he ever goes backstage and slates her back is it? oh wait, just not on the main show, don't want those believing he's a victim to see he's more than capable of standing up for himself.

No hypocrisy from Tulisa at all.....just her usual honest critique of Christopher (ie. of his usual boring non creative karaoke performance with some weird homo-erotica thrown in this time) and then on a Sunday a totally separate issue an acknowledgment of how well Rylan has put up with the vile,criminal and wholly unacceptable homophobic abuse that he has received since being on the show.............

Yeah. And on top of everything on here. We're going to have to suffer her performing on this weeks show. Maybe after she's finished we can go to Christopher for his comments. Just an idea.

I'm glad it's not just me that sees things like this. Christopher has had a tough time from the press and certain members of the public. Sending death threats etc., is ridiculous and shouldn't happen. However to blame Tulisa is just as ridiculous. As a judge she has made honest comments about Chris's ability. Gary has been much more vocal about Rylan to the point where he even left the panel in a huff one week.

The post you quoted mentions the word 'abusing' in reference to the way Chris has been treated, but no-one on this thread has mentioned the word abuse, so that poster (who you agree with) is really arguing with no-one.

Neither is anyone blaming Tulisa - just pointing out that Chris too has had a hard time of it, and that Tulisa has been on the side of stirring up bad feeling towards the bloke rather than making any attempt to calm the situation.