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Old 25-11-2012, 21:39
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I think she's a dull judge (not as bad as Gary but still bad), but people love circlejerking over how she's savaging him etc and from where I'm sitting Louis has been much worse to him and Gary has been far harsher with Rylan. She always says he sings well but that she wishes he'd be more modern or whatever... Louis says he's cruiseship and called Fake and Bake. She says he's cheesy, but so does Nicole. Tulisa saves Rylan once. Louis saves him twice...

Yet everything's all Tulisa's fault.

So... examples?
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Old 25-11-2012, 21:50
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Maybe she gave him a funny look once. Or maybe didn't give him a funny look when she should have. For the Orange MindGuards *anything* except outright heeping adulation now constitutes 'bullying'.

It's all getting rather tiresome. Presumably when Maloney entered X-Factor with his gameplan, he was aware of the possibility that the various fakings, dissemblings and humbugs would be rumbled and there would be consequences. If he was unable to cope with that, he should have dumped the gameplan and played it straight, like most other contestants somehow manage to do.

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Old 25-11-2012, 21:52
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I think she's a dull judge (not as bad as Gary but still bad), but people love circlejerking over how she's savaging him etc and from where I'm sitting Louis has been much worse to him and Gary has been far harsher with Rylan. She always says he sings well but that she wishes he'd be more modern or whatever... Louis says he's cruiseship and called Fake and Bake. She says he's cheesy, but so does Nicole. Tulisa saves Rylan once. Louis saves him twice...

Yet everything's all Tulisa's fault.

So... examples?

Yeah, she threatened to assult him with an epliator.
Oh wait, that was...nvm.
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Old 25-11-2012, 21:52
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Attitude towards him is a disgrace. I think that is pretty clear. The utter disrespect she shows is awful.
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Old 25-11-2012, 21:53
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Attitude towards him is a disgrace. I think that is pretty clear. The utter disrespect she shows is awful.
By telling him constantly how he's got a great voice? Do you have an actual example, or... ?
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Old 25-11-2012, 21:54
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She was quite insulting when she suggested nobody would buy his album : that was a harsh remark to make to any contestant on the show, particularly someone who was polling very well.
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Old 25-11-2012, 21:55
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Attitude towards him is a disgrace. I think that is pretty clear. The utter disrespect she shows is awful.
What about his disrespect to the judges how in the early stages tried to help him. When any other act is offered a critique such as "maybe try something different next week" they take it as a challenge and run with it, when Chris was asked to maybe try something modern we got "I'm just doing what me fans want and they made me peoples choice so i'm doing it for them and they seem to like it"

Would it have killed him to try something a bit more up to date? Everyone else has managed to mix it up between new and old, why should the judges not give him the same comments?
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Old 25-11-2012, 21:56
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It is amazing to hear someone else defend Tulisa. I have never thought she has been bullying Chris. Essentially Tulisa has been doing her job and giving her opinions on the performances. She has been honest and has said on a few occasions that Chris has a good voice but that there is a massive disconnect for her.
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Old 25-11-2012, 21:57
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She was quite insulting when she suggested nobody would buy his album : that was a harsh remark to make to any contestant on the show, particularly someone who was polling very well.
I can't remember what she said, but I'd be surprised if she said it in those words. Don't suppose you remember how she said it? Also, not really abuse is it?
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Old 25-11-2012, 21:58
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She was quite insulting when she suggested nobody would buy his album : that was a harsh remark to make to any contestant on the show, particularly someone who was polling very well.
Not really, polling very well on a Saturday night light entertainment show because you go on about your nan and stand looking like a victim is not the same as an artist who will sell records. She offered him constructive criticism which may have made him a more sellable artist, he chose to ignore it.

I think all those who are voting for him to annoy Cowell/get at the other judges/show they can't be manipulated/feel sorry for him, are doing him more harm than good. How many of those who have pity voted would even consider buying his material? Tulisa was spot on, and it's her job to say these things. When it comes to 6 months down the line, he's had an album sell less than 100k and no hit singles and is dropped, I wonder how happy he'll be to have played a part in "sticking it to Cowell"
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Old 25-11-2012, 21:58
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I think she's a dull judge (not as bad as Gary but still bad), but people love circlejerking over how she's savaging him etc and from where I'm sitting Louis has been much worse to him and Gary has been far harsher with Rylan. She always says he sings well but that she wishes he'd be more modern or whatever... Louis says he's cruiseship and called Fake and Bake. She says he's cheesy, but so does Nicole. Tulisa saves Rylan once. Louis saves him twice...

Yet everything's all Tulisa's fault.

So... examples?
It doesn't matter what she does or doesn't do it's all because she's 'common' apparently. How dare a normal person be seen on TV..they must stand in line and conform to a normal life as she isn't upper class. Really SOME Digital Spy posters are no better than the Conservatives.
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Old 25-11-2012, 21:58
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To me she hasn't said anything wrong regarding Chris. She's just been honest and sometimes complimentary too even when it looks like she doesn't want to be. Its the crowd that is booing him, they should be the ones getting the hate.
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Old 25-11-2012, 22:01
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Yeah, she threatened to assult him with an epliator.
Oh wait, that was...nvm.
lmfaoooo
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Old 25-11-2012, 22:03
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By telling him constantly how he's got a great voice? Do you have an actual example, or... ?
Laughing at him last night. Telling him she doesn't like him. Saying he doesn't deserve to be this far in the show. Not even looking at him as he is performing. There's a couple for you to start with. Watch back on u tube .theres plenty to look at. Her and her mouth piece Caroline flack have not stopped from the word go. Mind you I don't think any example anybody gave you , you would agree.
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Old 25-11-2012, 22:06
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What about his disrespect to the judges how in the early stages tried to help him. When any other act is offered a critique such as "maybe try something different next week" they take it as a challenge and run with it, when Chris was asked to maybe try something modern we got "I'm just doing what me fans want and they made me peoples choice so i'm doing it for them and they seem to like it"

Would it have killed him to try something a bit more up to date? Everyone else has managed to mix it up between new and old, why should the judges not give him the same comments?
he was doing what his mentor Gary told him to do. Or don't you watch the show. Would you question someone of Gary's standing in the music industry. Anyway he wouldn't of won if he did. You would be straight on saying what An egotistic person going against someone like Gary Barlow.
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Old 25-11-2012, 22:10
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She is simply disrespecting him by trying to belittle him her comments don't make sense and she is doing it purely to get back at Gary for calling her ash breathe very immature her giggling at him is getting embarrassing now she needs to grow up and start being professional
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Old 25-11-2012, 22:11
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She is simply disrespecting him by trying to belittle him her comments don't make sense and she is doing it purely to get back at Gary for calling her ash breathe very immature her giggling at him is getting embarrassing now she needs to grow up and start being professional
That's not an example. The whole performance was funny. She even apologised for laughing and said vocally it was good. Really... if she's truly abusing him, give an example.
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Old 25-11-2012, 22:16
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She is simply disrespecting him by trying to belittle him her comments don't make sense and she is doing it purely to get back at Gary for calling her ash breathe very immature her giggling at him is getting embarrassing now she needs to grow up and start being professional
She certainly shouldn't be looking at Louis as a role model in professionalism. He is a disgrace. An old hand like him should know better.
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Old 25-11-2012, 22:16
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he was doing what his mentor Gary told him to do. Or don't you watch the show. Would you question someone of Gary's standing in the music industry. Anyway he wouldn't of won if he did. You would be straight on saying what An egotistic person going against someone like Gary Barlow.
Gary always says they choose the songs together. He's a grown man who could ask to something a bit different. Why ignore Louis, Nicole and Tulisa and only listen to Gary, who lose 3 acts very quickly and didn't think Christopher was one of the best 3 in his category? Let's not forget Gary spent the best part of the last decade writing album tracks for Atomic Kitten and Charlotte Church before ITV offered him a Take That reunion lifeline, he may be big again now, but he's not got history for always making the best choices.

I think if you were being told week after week, by people who are paid to give their opinion, who have previously won the competition (not Nicole) that the choices weren't right and something was missing, wouldn't you maybe try to win them over, or would you be confident enough that you would always be safe and never need to rely on these people to save you in a sing off.

You'd think they were running in off the street just to be cruel to the guy, it was constructive at first, he disrespected them and ignored them, so now they are just pointing out where he is going wrong.
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Old 25-11-2012, 22:23
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I can't remember what she said, but I'd be surprised if she said it in those words. Don't suppose you remember how she said it? Also, not really abuse is it?
It certainly wasn't abuse but was a tad ungracious : it was something like "I can't really imagine people buying an album of yours".
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Old 25-11-2012, 22:24
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It certainly wasn't abuse but was a tad ungracious : it was something like "I can't really imagine people buying an album of yours".
Ah, I'm sure at others time she's said there might be a market for him (mother's day etc) but that she doesn't think he's a star, all of which are valid comments and nowhere near as harsh as Gary and Louis have been or as forum members are claiming she has been. But yeah, I'm not disagreeing, just saying it's not abuse.
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Old 25-11-2012, 22:26
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Tulisa hasn't been horrible to him. Last night she said he had a good voice but the dancers were creepy - fair point. She was laughing because of Louis but they're always laughing together, I don't know why that particular moment has been singled out.

I don't think any of them are bullying him, they just don't like his act. Christopher has the 'poor me' thing down to a tee. All the pulling sad faces and putting his head down. That said, I do want him to win because I think it'll be funny.
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Old 25-11-2012, 22:29
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Tulisa hasn't been horrible to him. Last night she said he had a good voice but the dancers were creepy - fair point. She was laughing because of Louis but they're always laughing together, I don't know why that particular moment has been singled out.

I don't think any of them are bullying him, they just don't like his act. Christopher has the 'poor me' thing down to a tee. All the pulling sad faces and putting his head down. That said, I do want him to win because I think it'll be funny.
I think she also pointed out the fault lay with his mentor, not Christopher.

I think people are trying to remind themselves of why they are pity voting, and desperately trying to misremember things to help them accept that they are lining Cowells pockets "in protest" when really there is nothing to protest.
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Old 25-11-2012, 22:29
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Laughing at him last night. Telling him she doesn't like him. Saying he doesn't deserve to be this far in the show. Not even looking at him as he is performing. There's a couple for you to start with. Watch back on u tube .theres plenty to look at. Her and her mouth piece Caroline flack have not stopped from the word go. Mind you I don't think any example anybody gave you , you would agree.
That shows the utmost disrespect.

She's awful.
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Old 25-11-2012, 22:31
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I don't really think she's done anything wrong. She's giving her opinion which is what she is paid to do. What Christopher is doing is dated, the staging has been creepy and saying those things doesn't make her a bully.
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