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Old 26-11-2012, 07:54
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Old 26-11-2012, 07:57
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I very much doubt he is. James and Union J are where the money is this year so even if they don't win it doesn't matter.

Simon hated Leon Jackson and made sure he failed because he didn't want to work with him. He will just do the same with Chris.

Thats why I find it so funny people believe Simon will be threating over this. He won't be. Chris was apparently topping the vote long before the so called protest stuff started anyway so its made no difference.

At most Chris lasting this long will probably cost Gary his place on the panel. Which is no bad thing but if its true Chris is getting the most votes that means he is giving the show the most money. Why would they be unhappy with that?? plus Chris has kept the show during a very lurksure year in the papers daily. Simon will be loving that. If anything this whole situation has been created to keep the show in the press. People have probably been played by producers

No damage has been caused to the show. It has survived worse. Katy for example... short memories people have.
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Old 26-11-2012, 07:59
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I don't think he gives a monkey's about any of the acts, and he's probably liking the fact that with Maloney in the competition, it's stirred up some controversy.

If Maloney wins, he'll go the same route as the majority of other male winners.
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Old 26-11-2012, 08:00
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Thing is, Chris is going to win and there's nothing he can do about it The more contrived the story feeds to the papers are, and the more bullying the judges do the more votes he gets. They have created their own monster they can't kill no matter how they try.

He'll sink without trace of course, but the show has been irretrievably damaged by the producers.
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Old 26-11-2012, 08:17
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You couldn't be more wrong. You really, really do fail to understand how this show works and what it is for. The 'recording contracts' are a red herring. The money is in Viewing figures and voting revenue and if it wasn't for Chris Maloney there would have been neither this year. Far from killing the show, he has kept it alive.
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Old 26-11-2012, 08:22
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You couldn't be more wrong. You really, really do fail to understand how this show works and what it is for. The 'recording contracts' are a red herring. The money is in Viewing figures and voting revenue and if it wasn't for Chris Maloney there would have been neither this year. Far from killing the show, he has kept it alive.
This is true, the X Factor is all about generating income while it's on air, and not about the people who actually take part in the show - as is evident by the complete disinterest in the majority of the former acts, a year or so later, despite their success on the show.
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Old 26-11-2012, 08:27
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You couldn't be more wrong. You really, really do fail to understand how this show works and what it is for. The 'recording contracts' are a red herring. The money is in Viewing figures and voting revenue and if it wasn't for Chris Maloney there would have been neither this year. Far from killing the show, he has kept it alive.
I do understand how the show works, and it looks better for the show longer term if the winners are successful. You often hear people saying 'the winners never do well anyway, the show is pointless' - Cowell wants to change that. For Cowell it's more than just a television show - how much money have Leona Lewis, One Direction and Susan Boyle made for him with their albums and touring? The show has a short life span, his record company doesn't. It's a clever idea - using the contestants signed to his record company to promote the show and using the show to promote the ones signed to his record company.

Voting revenue is unimportant in the larger scale of things, the advertising is where the money comes from. This year they even put advertising up in the auditions venues before they started which are only seen by 6000 people or so a day.
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Old 26-11-2012, 08:44
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Simon Bowel could not care less about the UK-Xfactor, it proves no purpose to him anymore.

He has a couple of years left in America to milk that cow.

Only total brain donors vote in the UK version now, as we have worked out the manipulation.

The manipulation is so obvious, you are basically an idiot filling the pockets of idiots.

Keep your money to yourselves.
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Old 26-11-2012, 09:55
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And as we all know viewing figures are through the roof this year.............

Erm.......
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Old 26-11-2012, 09:56
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I dont see why... The show needed to remove 1 of the 2 novelty acts this weekend - they did + removed the one that couldn't sing.

Chris for all his faults can actually hold a tune - I'd imagine that this weekend will be geared to removing Chris now that Rylan is out of the frame
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Old 26-11-2012, 10:05
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I take it by 'pulling out his hair' you mean 'unravelling his brillo pad'.

Don't believe the media - Simon doesn't give a shiny shite who wins. XF will be back next year (unfortunately) and Christopher will be forgotten in 9 months whether he wins the show or not.

Can't understand why people are so concerned about who wins - it doesn't matter! Simon will cherry pick the ones he wants for 'longevity'.

From all the VT and media coverage I've seen (again if its to be believed) I honestly do think that Christopher WANTS to win this more than any other contestant past or present. I don't think even he is thinking of what lies or may not ahead after the win - he's just in the moment and wants to win it so much. Its like Golem and 'his precious'.

I feel sorry for the guy.
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Old 26-11-2012, 10:24
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Simon loves all the controversy of the joke acts.

Remember he is the guy who could have sent Jedward home a few years back, but opted to send it to deadlock, meaning they survived.

He loves all the controversy up to a point, then he gets twitchy when the public stop playing by his rules & don't vote out the joke acts earlier.

I expect that Christopher will exit next week as they won't want the final to be sullied.
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Old 26-11-2012, 10:28
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I doubt it very much.

Mr Cowell already knows who is going to sell outside of the show. The Lives are just a way of showcasing the moneyspinners.

The person who eventually wins () is just the draw whilst the show runs.
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Old 26-11-2012, 10:31
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You couldn't be more wrong. You really, really do fail to understand how this show works and what it is for. The 'recording contracts' are a red herring. The money is in Viewing figures and voting revenue and if it wasn't for Chris Maloney there would have been neither this year. Far from killing the show, he has kept it alive.
I think it was a joke comment??

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Old 26-11-2012, 10:48
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Why would he care anyway - iof Chris wins then he pockets the money from the phone votes _ signs up places 2 and 3.

If Chris doesn't win, he still has the phone votes regardless and can just dump Chris - which he will do if he wins anyway.

So either way Cowell wins
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Old 26-11-2012, 11:25
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People still don't get it. The money is in the voting. If there was a singing chipmunk on there and people were voting, it wouldn't matter to Simon Cowell. His record company will sign any of the acts that look marketable, no matter who wins. The only loser when the voting patterns go haywire is the person who wins, because despite winning the competition, they have absolutely no career prospects unless they can compete in the music market.

PS Having read some of the other posts, obviously some people DO get it, which I'm relieved to see!
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Old 26-11-2012, 11:30
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People still don't get it. The money is in the voting. If there was a singing chipmunk on there and people were voting, it wouldn't matter to Simon Cowell. His record company will sign any of the acts that look marketable, no matter who wins. The only loser when the voting patterns go haywire is the person who wins, because despite winning the competition, they have absolutely no career prospects unless they can compete in the music market.

PS Having read some of the other posts, obviously some people DO get it, which I'm relieved to see!
You obviously don't get it, the money is in the advertising revenue.
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Old 26-11-2012, 11:31
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You obviously don't get it, the money is in the advertising revenue.
Yes, that too. No need to be rude.
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Old 26-11-2012, 11:35
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Yes, that too. No need to be rude.
How is me saying that you don't get it any different to you saying that other people in this thread don't get it?
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Old 26-11-2012, 11:36
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Trying to fix the show so blatantly should be met with harsh penalties. ITV need to buck up their ideas.
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Old 26-11-2012, 11:39
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Cowell will be concerned with one thing only: did X-Factor 2012 make as much money as he had planned.

That's the beginning and end of it. My own feeling is he is bored with the show now and if it has to end - to make way for another money-spinning activity - so be it.
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Old 26-11-2012, 11:43
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You obviously don't get it, the money is in the advertising revenue.
Correct.

But for advertising revenue they need viewers, and to get viewers the show needs some sort of credibility. Granted I'm using the term "credibility" loosely since we are talking about X-Factor here.

And Chris? Well, Chris hurts that credibility and therefore impacts on the bottom dollar. How much this hurts Simon is debatable though considering just how much he's banked over the years.
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Old 26-11-2012, 11:47
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Regardless of any "campaign" to vote Chris the winner all these stories and bad press against him will only go to increase his chances of winning in my opinion. No one is gonna be dictated to by the Cowell corporate Bandwagon or the Press. Also Chris needs to be discussing with his lawyers about this so-called "loophole" that Cowell is claiming will allow him to be dumped early or given little promotion. That's just unfair.

I really hope he wins just to stick two fingers up to the corporate bandwagon and ITV. Oh and then hopefully cancel next year's series which is ultimately the purpose of the campaign.
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Old 26-11-2012, 13:30
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I think the whole Christopher thing is deliberate, to make a reason for Cowell to come back next year as "saviour" of the X Factor!
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Old 26-11-2012, 13:58
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Nobody has mentioned here that Ella Henderson was Plan A for Cowell and the producers and I got the distinct impression they thought she would top the poll every week and run away with the series (listen to the praise they were giving her at bootcamp, judges house and live show 1).

She has been the big disaster for them this year. It sounds like the public never connected with her and it will be mighty difficult to turn her into any sort of star on the back of a sixth place finish in X Factor.
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