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Suffice to say a "supporting role" didn't suit Raikonnen.
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So some nutters, 12 years ago, went a bit loopy and flew a few planes into the WTC!! That makes all al Qaeda members and supporters terrorists?? Does that make every Palestinian supporter a terrorist as well?
From what I have been able to ascertain, no one was ever charged with the attacks, and there has never been any proof that the perpertrator was working for Al Quaeda. Some unknown assailant (no one has claimed responsibility for the action in Germany, a tacit practice of terrorist organisations), sets fire to a petrol station, a long time ago and that makes Greenpeace an a par with the worlds most deadliest and feared terrorist organisation? I think that is a disgraceful insult, not only to everyone's intelligence on here, but to the thousands who died in the attacks in 2001. I think you ought to apolise. |
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Suffice to say a "supporting role" didn't suit Raikonnen.
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Also would like to know what terms caused the sticking point between RBR and Kimi.
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That seems fairly obvious to me.
Thus our guesses dont really mean anything. |
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You only have to look back at Red Bull's history of drivers to see that they may well have been wary of bringing in a proven WC with expectations of winning future titles who is likely to have been tempremental, rocked the boat and not stuck around for more than a couple of seasons. Historically Coulthard was the only driver with a proven track record when they signed him and he was clearly towards the end of his career. Red Bull have had really only had 3 driver pairings in their 9 years: Coulthard / Klien, Coulthard / Webber and Webber / Vettel. They clearly like that stability and think Riccardo will give them that while Kimi probably wouldn't given his track record.
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Is this really a serious post? You cannot be really comparing Greenpeace to Al-Qaeda, are you?
Some unknown assailant (no one has claimed responsibility for the action in Germany, a tacit practice of terrorist organisations), sets fire to a petrol station, a long time ago and that makes Greenpeace an a par with the worlds most deadliest and feared terrorist organisation? I think that is a disgraceful insult, not only to everyone's intelligence on here, but to the thousands who died in the attacks in 2001. I think you ought to apolise. |
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Not sure how to "apolise", but yes Greenpeace firebombed and shot several petrol stations.
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Greenpeace is also on the FBI list of terrorist organisations for other things, such as swapping GE rice for organic rice. The GE rice was resistant to pests, and the organic rice wasn't. As such, several third world countries starved because of the Greenpeace objections and direct action. That is the act of a terrorist organisation.
Oh dear, I think you are behind the times on this one. |
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So some nutters, 12 years ago, went a bit loopy and flew a few planes into the WTC!! That makes all al Qaeda members and supporters terrorists?
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You only have to look back at Red Bull's history of drivers to see that they may well have been wary of bringing in a proven WC with expectations of winning future titles who is likely to have been tempremental, rocked the boat and not stuck around for more than a couple of seasons. Historically Coulthard was the only driver with a proven track record when they signed him and he was clearly towards the end of his career. Red Bull have had really only had 3 driver pairings in their 9 years: Coulthard / Klien, Coulthard / Webber and Webber / Vettel. They clearly like that stability and think Riccardo will give them that while Kimi probably wouldn't given his track record.
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I can go along with this line of thinking. It does sort of make sense. I say 'sort of' because if this was the case, why bother holding talks with Kimi? Then again maybe they realised during the talks that Kimi just wasnt right for them or vice versa. Thats why I would love to know why the talks broke down. I guess at some point we will find out.
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Bearing in mind that one mark of a true all time great is winning championships with more than one team. If he wants to be placed higher in the pantheon than Schumacher then Vettel needs to move at some point.
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What happens at RBR depends on what happens with the car. Currently it is the best by some way which why Hamilton, Raikonnen and Alonso were all interested in going there. It is obvious Vettel would prefer not to have any of those to compete with in a RBR car. Vettel will leave when it is no longer a car he can win championships in.
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Bearing in mind that one mark of a true all time great is winning championships with more than one team.
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Well it makes for a good pub discussion. But I would not go so far as to say that you *have* to be a multi-team champion to be considered an all time great. Turning it round, can anyone suggest a multi-team champion who would not be otherwise be considered an all time great? May have to go outside F1 to find someone like that.
This is why I was really hoping Rossi could make the Ducati bike work for him to push him well clear of other double-team MotoGP champions by adding to his Honda and Yamaha titles. |
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What happens at RBR depends on what happens with the car. Currently it is the best by some way which why Hamilton, Raikonnen and Alonso were all interested in going there. It is obvious Vettel would prefer not to have any of those to compete with in a RBR car. Vettel will leave when it is no longer a car he can win championships in.
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Not sure how to "apolise", but yes Greenpeace firebombed and shot several petrol stations. Greenpeace is also on the FBI list of terrorist organisations for other things, such as swapping GE rice for organic rice. The GE rice was resistant to pests, and the organic rice wasn't. As such, several third world countries starved because of the Greenpeace objections and direct action. That is the act of a terrorist organisation.
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Hamilton only 12th.
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Hamilton only 12th.
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Brilliant from Hulkenberg. Very naughty from Massa, he went too fast...
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Great qualifying by Hulkenberg. He deserves a top drive next season.
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Hulk was incredible.
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Hulk was incredible.
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Pun intended? lol.
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Blunt and honest from Hamilton. Clearly blocked by Sutil though he shouldn't blame himself that much.
Just looked unlucky where he caught Sutil. But if he did block him it serves Hamilton right after what he did to Sutil. Great to see Hamilton knocked out and only P12. Not sure what Alonso can do tomorrow might be able to get pasted two of the cars in front of him quite easily. Mercedes Button blocker is down the grid to. Hopefully Masa has now done enough to convince Ferrari to sack him. I think the race will be another stride in Vettel's march to four in a row world championships. |
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